RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
He said... QUOTE: SuSE 10.1 AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit) 1024 mb ram 160 GB HDD 100/100-Mbps WAN ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S: 213.237.12.210:27012 --- END QUOTE: How is he running an old 64bit build of hlds? Unless I am confused hes running 32 bit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Forsberg Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:49 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds. Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1 available for those servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it. On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote: If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set. On 32 bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available. You either run vac2 or you run in insecure mode. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 09:06 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote: How is he running an old 64bit build of hlds? Unless I am confused hes running 32 bit My bad, I was confusing threads. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Sow I don't need to anything on my server if VAC is activate on it ? If the client a using VAC2 my server will use it to ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] P.S Just sow we don't misunderstand each other. My server spec. SuSE 10.1 AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit) 1024 mb ram 160 GB HDD 100/100-Mbps WAN ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S: 213.237.12.210:27012 --- -- From: Evaldas Þilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:36:56 +0300 I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff. When they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if your engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their clients. Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module needs to be activated (secure server) or no (insecure). - Original Message - From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform. On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 21:15 +, Henrik Semark wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Find dine dokumenter lettere med MSN Toolbar med Windows-pc-søgning hent den gratis![1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMADADK/2734??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set. On 32 bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available. You either run vac2 or you run in insecure mode. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Semark Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:22 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Sow I don't need to anything on my server if VAC is activate on it ? If the client a using VAC2 my server will use it to ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] P.S Just sow we don't misunderstand each other. My server spec. SuSE 10.1 AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit) 1024 mb ram 160 GB HDD 100/100-Mbps WAN ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S: 213.237.12.210:27012 --- -- From: Evaldas Þilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:36:56 +0300 I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff. When they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if your engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their clients. Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module needs to be activated (secure server) or no (insecure). - Original Message - From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform. On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 21:15 +, Henrik Semark wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Find dine dokumenter lettere med MSN Toolbar med Windows-pc-søgning hent den gratis![1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMADADK/2734??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds. Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1 available for those servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it. On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote: If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set. On 32 bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available. You either run vac2 or you run in insecure mode. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
And you think, that VALVe will leave VAC1 servers (and it's system) online only because of the AMD64 witch is not updated for ages? :). Plus, sometimes i thin that VAC1 = VAC2 just some updated tracking things. - Original Message - From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:49 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds. Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1 available for those servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it. On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote: If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set. On 32 bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available. You either run vac2 or you run in insecure mode. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I just have a question about VAC 1 and 2 how do you set it up ? is it a meter like -pingboost # ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] -- From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:05:10 +0100 VAC2 and AMD64 don't work together, you can run VAC 1, unless I missed something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: 10 July 2006 19:31 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Fw: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support They are still releasing updates for AMD64bit amxmodx. Also VAC2 seems to work on my server? Saint K. - Original Message - From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Valve, We have been running Opteron servers since September 2003, I do believe we were the first to have free to play ones in the world (http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have seen support for 64 bit reduce over the years to the state where I have been running them in 32 bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have VAC2 running. I know it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure helps, the slots we can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus. Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site: AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest contributions was a 64bit port of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In fact, AMX Mod X was the first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility. AMX Mod does not run in 64bit mode. However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64 support -- the latest AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2. Furthermore, the JIT is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of potential speed is lost. Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for debugging/developer purposes. To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to sound old hat, coming up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared. The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer on what is the future in Valves eyes without the fob off of it will be ready when it's ready Regards, Knuts jolt.co.uk -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Log på MSN Messenger direkte på nettet[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMADADK/2737??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
It is automatic. You don't do anything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Semark Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:18 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I just have a question about VAC 1 and 2 how do you set it up ? is it a meter like -pingboost # ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] -- From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:05:10 +0100 VAC2 and AMD64 don't work together, you can run VAC 1, unless I missed something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: 10 July 2006 19:31 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Fw: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support They are still releasing updates for AMD64bit amxmodx. Also VAC2 seems to work on my server? Saint K. - Original Message - From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Valve, We have been running Opteron servers since September 2003, I do believe we were the first to have free to play ones in the world (http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have seen support for 64 bit reduce over the years to the state where I have been running them in 32 bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have VAC2 running. I know it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure helps, the slots we can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus. Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site: AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest contributions was a 64bit port of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In fact, AMX Mod X was the first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility. AMX Mod does not run in 64bit mode. However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64 support -- the latest AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2. Furthermore, the JIT is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of potential speed is lost. Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for debugging/developer purposes. To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to sound old hat, coming up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared. The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer on what is the future in Valves eyes without the fob off of it will be ready when it's ready Regards, Knuts jolt.co.uk -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Log på MSN Messenger direkte på nettet[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMADADK/2737??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] -- From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:10:20 -0400 It is automatic. You don't do anything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Semark Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:18 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I just have a question about VAC 1 and 2 how do you set it up ? is it a meter like -pingboost # ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] -- From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:05:10 +0100 VAC2 and AMD64 don't work together, you can run VAC 1, unless I missed something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: 10 July 2006 19:31 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Fw: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support They are still releasing updates for AMD64bit amxmodx. Also VAC2 seems to work on my server? Saint K. - Original Message - From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Valve, We have been running Opteron servers since September 2003, I do believe we were the first to have free to play ones in the world (http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have seen support for 64 bit reduce over the years to the state where I have been running them in 32 bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have VAC2 running. I know it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure helps, the slots we can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus. Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site: AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest contributions was a 64bit port of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In fact, AMX Mod X was the first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility. AMX Mod does not run in 64bit mode. However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64 support -- the latest AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2. Furthermore, the JIT is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of potential speed is lost. Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for debugging/developer purposes. To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to sound old hat, coming up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared. The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer on what is the future in Valves eyes without the fob off of it will be ready when it's ready Regards, Knuts jolt.co.uk -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Log på MSN Messenger direkte på nettet[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMADADK/2737??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Få de bedste resultater med MSN Search[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBDADK/2731??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff. When they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if your engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their clients. Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module needs to be activated (secure server) or no (insecure). - Original Message - From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2 You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform. On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 21:15 +, Henrik Semark wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ? / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
