Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.

2003-07-16 Thread Steven Hartland
Indeed all though I like the idea I must say we worried about the issues
that steam may present. As it stands we will be manually updating our dev
server testing and then rolling out to our live machines. This way we can:
1. detect issues before they affect the business
2. rollback to previous versions if an issue is detected after roll out to
live machines.

Steve / K

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From: "EnemySpy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.


> > how can you say that?  you act as if any other game company has done as much
> > over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to
> > the players who bought the original game u.  no one?
>
> I can say that, because I have been running a CS server for over 3 years.  I have 
> also run battlefield 1942 and Unreal
Tournament servers, so I think I have some firm ground from which to speak from.
>
> >
> > also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and
> > will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers?
>
> They would not be able to play on the servers if they crashed, either.  And for an 
> established community like mine, the clients
(my players) would wait patiently for me to upgrade my server manually.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.

2003-07-16 Thread EnemySpy
> how can you say that?  you act as if any other game company has done as much
> over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to
> the players who bought the original game u.  no one?

I can say that, because I have been running a CS server for over 3 years.  I have also 
run battlefield 1942 and Unreal Tournament servers, so I think I have some firm ground 
from which to speak from.

>
> also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and
> will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers?

They would not be able to play on the servers if they crashed, either.  And for an 
established community like mine, the clients (my players) would wait patiently for me 
to upgrade my server manually.
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RE: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.

2003-07-16 Thread Kevin J. Anderson


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->Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:42 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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->- Original Message -
->From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:33 PM
->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.
->
->
->> It's been said before recently that people are giving Valve
->crap for not fixing
->> stuff, then when they do, they get crap for that too.  This is
->Valve's beta
->> test, not ours.  When stuff brakes, it's expected.  If a plugin
->brakes, then
->> it's the plugin's authors responsibility to fix it.  If you
->were warned ahead of
->> time would you not test it out?  How does that help Valve?
->When Valve rolls out
->> a patch you don't have a choice anyway the steam clients are
->updated too.
->
->Er, its not just betas they screw up on.  They have managed to
->screw something up on lots (if not all) of their final releases.
->And as for fixing things, they always appear to break something else.
->
->I enjoy CS, and I host 2 servers, but I think the support sucks.
->
->This auto update worries me too (and yes, I know you can turn it
->off).  But I can see servers auto downloading the latest update
->and crashing because valve forgot to check something before they
->released the update.
->

how can you say that?  you act as if any other game company has done as much
over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to
the players who bought the original game u.  no one?

also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and
will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers?

kev

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