RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread Nick McLaren


You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this proves
that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling them! How about
binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their keys to various
sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my controls rebound and
this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the rules and look at me! I'm a
zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry admin. I don't mean to be a
rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it! Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I
can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but it's quite humorous if not abused.
=)

-Nick


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So heres something new I've never seen..

I hop on a server the other day and go on a nice quick streak of kills. One
of the kills being the admin who happens to think I cheat. Instead of
banning me.. he issued the command for me connect myip.

It halts up your CS for a second, and everytime I reconnect to the server it
forces it again. :|

Just thought I'd share.
Joshua
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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread Joshua Gardiner

See,

Sure, as neat at that is.. I acctaully have some what of an issue with it.
Unless VAC calls someone a h4x, I give them the benefit. Given, I only use
my server for clan matches so I'm not faced with the majority of hackers
like the rest of you. But to me, changing someones config is just too much.
Then again, if they really are hacking and ruining the game for others...
maybe it isn't enough.

When you rebind their commands, does it save to their config file? If it
does then I feel sorry for those who have been hti with this and wrongly
accused of cheating. :o

Joshua

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From: Nick McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this proves
that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling them! How about
binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their keys to various
sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my controls rebound and
this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the rules and look at me! I'm a
zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry admin. I don't mean to be a
rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it! Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I
can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but it's quite humorous if not abused.
=)

-Nick


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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:35 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning


So heres something new I've never seen..

I hop on a server the other day and go on a nice quick streak of kills. One
of the kills being the admin who happens to think I cheat. Instead of
banning me.. he issued the command for me connect myip.

It halts up your CS for a second, and everytime I reconnect to the server it
forces it again. :|

Just thought I'd share.
Joshua
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread DLinkOZ

It's not very amusing if that person doesn't have their config set as
read-only and doesn't know how to put all that sillyness back to normal.
Honestly, this was one of the main reasons I dislike admin mod.



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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning



 You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
 rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this proves
 that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling them! How
about
 binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their keys to various
 sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my controls rebound and
 this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the rules and look at me! I'm a
 zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry admin. I don't mean to be a
 rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it! Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I
 can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but it's quite humorous if not abused.
 =)

 -Nick


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua
 Gardiner
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:35 AM
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 Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning


 So heres something new I've never seen..

 I hop on a server the other day and go on a nice quick streak of kills.
One
 of the kills being the admin who happens to think I cheat. Instead of
 banning me.. he issued the command for me connect myip.

 It halts up your CS for a second, and everytime I reconnect to the server
it
 forces it again. :|

 Just thought I'd share.
 Joshua
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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread Nick McLaren


Yes it would write to their config.cfg file. Honestly, I've never used these
ideas myself. As a matter of fact, I just thought of them! ;)

As with all admin retaliation tactics, they are only really effective in the
hands of a good admin and can be subject to abuse in the hands of a bad one.
Personally, I find AdminMOD's admin_slay and admin_slap commands to do the
trick for me, which doesn't effect the client's config but get's the point
across that I'm not very pleased with the player's behavior. But what I do
vs. what everybody else does on their servers may be vastly different.

Realistically, there are actually legal privacy issues relating to modifying
the connecting players config just like it would be if you were to enter
their computer through other means and make changes to files or data in
memory. It's just another one of those cases that just because you can
doesn't mean you should. I still think it would be funny on some of the
internet tough guys out there, but I would never do it for the reasons I've
already stated. =)

-Nick


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See,

Sure, as neat at that is.. I acctaully have some what of an issue with it.
Unless VAC calls someone a h4x, I give them the benefit. Given, I only use
my server for clan matches so I'm not faced with the majority of hackers
like the rest of you. But to me, changing someones config is just too much.
Then again, if they really are hacking and ruining the game for others...
maybe it isn't enough.

When you rebind their commands, does it save to their config file? If it
does then I feel sorry for those who have been hti with this and wrongly
accused of cheating. :o

Joshua

-Original Message-
From: Nick McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning



You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this proves
that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling them! How about
binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their keys to various
sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my controls rebound and
this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the rules and look at me! I'm a
zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry admin. I don't mean to be a
rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it! Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I
can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but it's quite humorous if not abused.
=)

-Nick


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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:35 AM
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Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning


So heres something new I've never seen..

I hop on a server the other day and go on a nice quick streak of kills. One
of the kills being the admin who happens to think I cheat. Instead of
banning me.. he issued the command for me connect myip.

It halts up your CS for a second, and everytime I reconnect to the server it
forces it again. :|

Just thought I'd share.
Joshua
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread MoD

You'll need some kind of metamod plugin with execclient access.

Admin Mod does it, HLGuard does it (this is how the file checks use to go).

  MoD,

Always @ your service.

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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:09 PM
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 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Nick McLaren wrote:

 
  You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
  rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this proves
  that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling them! How
about
  binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their keys to various
  sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my controls rebound
and
  this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the rules and look at me! I'm
a
  zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry admin. I don't mean to be a
  rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it! Just silly stuff for fun. ;)
I
  can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but it's quite humorous if not
abused.
  =)

 is this something done through any server or do you need adminmod or
 something like that?

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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread Bob

People who don't have admin mod installed but do have HLGuard can also
issue client side commands.

Syntax

Rcon hlg_clexec #userid command

IE

Rcon hlg_clexec #12 bind mouse1 +kill
Or
Rcon hlg_clexec * kill

*=all players

Rcon hlg_clexec #12 bind mouse1 say I'm a loser

Etc etc



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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Nick McLaren wrote:


 You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
 rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this
 proves that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling
 them! How about binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their

 keys to various sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my
 controls rebound and this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the
 rules and look at me! I'm a zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry
 admin. I don't mean to be a rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it!

 Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but

 it's quite humorous if not abused.
 =)

is this something done through any server or do you need adminmod or
something like that?

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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT (Somewhat)] New forms of banning

2002-09-30 Thread Sebastian

That's why it's a good to be careful where you play at.. I just don't
play on any server for this reason...  too many assholes and childish
with admin rights.



Cheers,
-Sebastian

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The funniest is execclient unbind all :) try to quit cs withot pressing
ctrl+alt+del :)

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People who don't have admin mod installed but do have HLGuard can also
issue client side commands.

Syntax

Rcon hlg_clexec #userid command

IE

Rcon hlg_clexec #12 bind mouse1 +kill
Or
Rcon hlg_clexec * kill

*=all players

Rcon hlg_clexec #12 bind mouse1 say I'm a loser

Etc etc



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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Nick McLaren wrote:


 You can be very creative in your responses to suspected cheaters or
 rulebreakers in general for your particular server. Clearly, this
 proves that banning and llamas aren't the only methods of handling
 them! How about binding their fire key to /kill? How about all their

 keys to various sayings like I ticked off the admin all I got was my
 controls rebound and this stupid t-shirt! or I didn't follow the
 rules and look at me! I'm a zero! or maybe just I'm really sorry
 admin. I don't mean to be a rulebreaker, but the devil made me do it!

 Just silly stuff for fun. ;) I can't guarantee it's effectiveness, but

 it's quite humorous if not abused.
 =)

is this something done through any server or do you need adminmod or
something like that?

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