Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Daniel Stroven
I hate bsd, but its been proven to me over the last few years, that as a
webserver.  It is far and away more stable and can take a heavier load than
linux.  I have never tried for gameservers, and I have no intention of it
lol
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From: "[Mage]-BadPing-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?


> >
> > That's why you don't use the "Redhat Operating System" option. ;)
> >
>
> Patrick Volkerding (author of Slackware) will sometimes answer your emails
> personally.  I think that just kicks ass ;)
>
> A distro is a distro though.  Your choice is mostly a matter of personal
> style, and does not necessarily reflect your level of 1337ness.  If you
> prefer to use emerge instead of installpkg or RPM, well hey, at least with
> Linux, you have a choices.
>
> The urge to trash BSD is strong, however.  Damn ivory-tower OS
>
>  That was a joke so all the BSD zealots can simma down now :P
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Daniel Stroven
 9:13pm  up 413 days,  6:01,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat
Linux 7.1 2.96-98)) #1 SMP Tue May 7 19:02:35 EDT 2002

Default kernel even.

RH has proven stable for me.
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From: "Brett Fernicola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?


> My point exactly,
>
> Many admins slap on a default Red Hat install which is full of usesless
shit
> are more open to exploits, and then smoke a joint and call it a day.
>
> Yes if you take the time you can get Red Hat 9 running fairly well, but
few
> people take that time or have the knoweldge to do so.
>
> Also Red Hat's install is no where near as good or selective as expert
mode
> in Slackware!!  Expert mode in slackware really lets you see everything
> thats going into the system, where as Red Hat lumps stuff togeter.
>
> If you want extreme performance then All I have to say is try out
Slackware
> or SOL linux.  I stick with Slackware 9.1 and its trully great.
>
> I also feel that slackware has better stability then Red Hat in my
> expeirence.  My cs servers can go an easy 60 days with out one crash or
> restart.  I know some of you have servers that crash at least once a day
> dont lie.
>
> also
>
> The Slackware Philosophy
> Since its first release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has
> aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there.
> Slackware complies with the published Linux standards, such as the Linux
> File System Standard. We have always considered simplicity and stability
> paramount, and as a result Slackware has become one of the most popular,
> stable, and friendly distributions available.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?
>
>
> > On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:37 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
> > Charles Capps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > More than you might think.  Many dedicated hosting providers just
> > > slap a default install image on the disk and call it a day.
> > >
> >
> > Sure - but don't complain if the default isn't what you want.
> >
> > -Simon
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RE: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread [Mage]-BadPing-
>
> That's why you don't use the "Redhat Operating System" option. ;)
>

Patrick Volkerding (author of Slackware) will sometimes answer your emails
personally.  I think that just kicks ass ;)

A distro is a distro though.  Your choice is mostly a matter of personal
style, and does not necessarily reflect your level of 1337ness.  If you
prefer to use emerge instead of installpkg or RPM, well hey, at least with
Linux, you have a choices.

The urge to trash BSD is strong, however.  Damn ivory-tower OS

 That was a joke so all the BSD zealots can simma down now :P






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RE: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Drew Broadley

>>
>> Also Red Hat's install is no where near as good or selective as
expert
>> mode in Slackware!!  Expert mode in slackware really lets you see
>> everything thats going into the system, where as Red Hat lumps stuff
>> togeter.
>>
>
>That's why you use the "Individual Package Selection" option.
>
>-Simon

That's why you don't use the "Redhat Operating System" option. ;)

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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:55 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Brett Fernicola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Also Red Hat's install is no where near as good or selective as
> expert mode in Slackware!!  Expert mode in slackware really lets you
> see everything thats going into the system, where as Red Hat lumps
> stuff togeter.
>

That's why you use the "Individual Package Selection" option.

-Simon


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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Daniel Stroven
Glad it solved the problem for you.
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From: "Charles Capps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?


> Thank you, Daniel - that fixed the problem perfectly.  Makes me wonder
> what causes the problem in the first place.
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Stroven wrote:
>
> > Back in the day fixed that on linux by su - to root.
> >
> > cd to /etc
> > edit the ld.so.conf
> > input /path/to/hlds
> > save
> > then run "ldconfig"
> >
> >
> > No guarantee it will work, but always did for me.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Charles Capps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:51 PM
> > Subject: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?
> >
> >
> >
> >>Early this morning my non-Steam 3111c server mysteriously crashed
> >>without any useful information in any of the logs.
> >>
> >>hlds_run hangs without any usable output.  Directly running hlds_i686
> >>(or i486) results in:
> >>
> >>Error:libhlwon.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> >
> > directory
> >
> >>Unable to load engine, image is corrupt.
> >>
> >>This occurs on a new install of hlds as well as the existing install,
> >>which seems to vaguely indicate that this isn't a problem with the file
> >>itself, but something else in the system is screwed up.  I didn't
> >>(intentionally) change anything between when the server was last brought
> >>up (last month) and now.
> >>
> >>The only possible thing I can think of that might possibly have changed
> >>was just running up2date... it's a Redhat 7.3 box.
> >>
> >>Only two other people have seen this error before, according to Google,
> >>and neither seemed to find a solution.
> >>
> >>Has anyone else seen this, and if so, have you found solutions?  I
> >>really want to keep a WON-based server up as long as I can...
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:37 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Charles Capps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> More than you might think.  Many dedicated hosting providers just
> slap a default install image on the disk and call it a day.
>

Sure - but don't complain if the default isn't what you want.

-Simon


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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Simon Garner:
> But who the heck uses a default install? You can customise exactly
> what packages you want.

Given that you have the source for everything, with sufficient
customization, you can make any Linux distro be exactly like any other
Linux distro. The only difference between them is what each distro does
by default.

-Mad

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proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

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Re: [hlds_linux] Can't open libhlwon.so?

2003-10-14 Thread Charles Capps
Simon Garner wrote:
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:44 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Mad Scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the point is that *by default* RH tends to install more stuff,
which means two things:
But who the heck uses a default install? You can customise exactly what
packages you want.
More than you might think.  Many dedicated hosting providers just slap a
default install image on the disk and call it a day.
Not everyone can build their own machine, install their OS of choice
exactly how they wish, then find a good (and affordable) place to colo.
--
CC


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