Re: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane.
KnowHow The NetCrawler wrote: 1) You never hear from the people who like the updates, so forums and community only gets you thus far. On the contrary, look at the replies Nick gets when he posts about VAC updates, and consider the many thank yous Alfred got when he announced sv_downloadurl. downloadurl and VAC are not a gameplay changes, which I thought was what we were talking about? 2) I like when the game changes a little, keeps it interesting. We all survived 1.4, didn't we? This isn't a little. What Valve are doing nowadays is fundamentally changing the gameplay without giving us the option of leaving it as-was. You mean like taking away bunny jumping? 4) As always people will complain, and eventually grow to live with it. A lot of the better players I know have now given up complaining and are reinstalling 1.5. Last night I joined them and had a blast playing CS as a game of skill instead of luck. Well, good for you then. With the Steam hlds using excessive CPU on the most powerful of boxes, and the continual breaking of CD/AMX/etc, I'm seriously starting to re-evaluate the merits of running it compared to 1.5. 1.5 was updated once.. to 1.5.. that's why steam breaks addons, because it updates. Personally I haven't had that big a problem with updating my server, it's a lot worse with the client. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane.
here here.. I completely agree. Since this update was only released today I haven't had the chance to play CS yet (At work) but from what ive seen on this list I don't think imp going to like what I see when I play later. I have one question though.. Why does the AWP always get scrutinised against?? Why not just make it fire roses out the barrel instead or make it shoot water or better still make a flag pop out the end saying Bang.. Valve need to started reading this list in my opinion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Lee Sent: 29 April 2004 16:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane. I just played the new update to test a server and i have a few questions. 1) Why are the new crosshairs so large? They are like playskool big at 1024. You cant just up and change something as important as crosshairs in a fps and expect people to be ok with it. I havent heard any complaints about the cstike crosshairs. Maybe they could have stood to be a little darker, but damn you make something as stupid as the radar an option and the crosshairs are mandatory? What kind of sense does that make? 2) Why did you guys put the delay on the scope of the awp? The delay should be on the bullet load time like its supposed to be. You should have just done it like the reload. Where as if someone switches to their pistol and the awp goes back to not having a bullet. Switch back to the awp and it starts to load the new round again. This zoom delay works, but is confusing and there is no way to really know if you can fire again. 3) Whats the model updates? I havent notice anny changes, although some say their fps dropped, but they always say that since fps can easliy be lied about and gives them a reason for being gh3yed l1k3 a nub or whatever it is they say now. 4) I did notice the interface tweaks, looks like crap if you ask me. The old stuff was fine. Anyways guys, you stand once again to piss off a bunch of people here. Im glad you changed the awp, although instead of fixing it you just make it seemed to be broke. The crosshairs? wtf? Why dont you guys fix things that really need to be fixed? Are you even listening to the community? I can give you some links to some community sites if you want some feedback. I dont know where you guys are getting your instructions from but they definitly do not have their finger on the pulse of the gaming community. I'm starting to think this is part of some kind of marketing scheme to change small crap until you eventually make everyone want to stop playing cs. I'm really starting to think cs was better before valve bought it. Finally, here is a list of things that need to be fixed on the client. Other can add to this if they want. I normally wouldnt do this, but you guys sold CZ already and I was hoping it would fix alot of these problems. Since you dropped the ball on that one I dont think its too much to ask. 1) steam is SLOW. It takes longer for me to join a cstrike game if steam isnt running than it does for me to join a ut2004 game and the interface is really unresponsive. Also steam eats up a ton of memory when running. All in all, you guys need to optimized steam a little better. All it is, is a download manager and an im client. How hard can it be? 2) The riot shield SUX!!! Make a server opion to disable it. Make it so the people take damage when using it. Make them run alot slower. Make them bright pink. I dont care, just do something. You guys do realize this thing is banned in almost every league right? Ohh wait, i forgot you guys just spent time updating the crosshairs for cs, so you dont. Ok, well this thing is banned in almost every league. 3) FPS is getting lower and lower with each update, how about you guys try optimizing the engine some more? Don't tell me it can't be done, you are making HL2 and ive seen movies of it. 4) Add some more realism to the game. *ahem* cts running around with silencers on all the guns regardless of weather or not they are really on? That kind of stuff was acceptable back when hl came out, but now? 5) MAKE VAC WORK!! Dont ban the hackers from cstrike, just ban them from vac servers. Cheating is fine, IF the server allows it. See others comments. -- Thanks, David Lee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane.
I agree with you guys the changes make the awp seem broken now. I do like the map updates to nuke brightness / box bug fix on the back ramp. The cross hairs have to go or at least the ability to change back to the old. With pistols you have a huge c/h at 800x600. So what else was changed with the update besides cross hair? Is this apart of the other optimizations, can we get a list? Kenny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of | RapidGame Support | Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane. here here.. I completely agree. Since this update was only released today I haven't had the chance to play CS yet (At work) but from what ive seen on this list I don't think imp going to like what I see when I play later. I have one question though.. Why does the AWP always get scrutinised against?? Why not just make it fire roses out the barrel instead or make it shoot water or better still make a flag pop out the end saying Bang.. Valve need to started reading this list in my opinion. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New client update. WTF? You guys really are insane.
I am not going to edit the post as I think it is all worth keeping, and I am top posting so's people don't have to scroll down :) Why not ask on this list before making changes? Better still, why not get feedback from your webpage and forum? It wouldn't take 10 minutes to knock up a simple php script to ask any visitors their opinion on whether a game aspect should be changed and how it should be changed. This place is beginning to feel more like planetside each day; lots of changes that nobody wants, the changes people do want get ignored, more and more lag with every release, software releases that are useless and nobody wants (Sony's Core Combat / Valve's Condition Zero), Matt. David Lee wrote: I just played the new update to test a server and i have a few questions. 1) Why are the new crosshairs so large? They are like playskool big at 1024. You cant just up and change something as important as crosshairs in a fps and expect people to be ok with it. I havent heard any complaints about the cstike crosshairs. Maybe they could have stood to be a little darker, but damn you make something as stupid as the radar an option and the crosshairs are mandatory? What kind of sense does that make? 2) Why did you guys put the delay on the scope of the awp? The delay should be on the bullet load time like its supposed to be. You should have just done it like the reload. Where as if someone switches to their pistol and the awp goes back to not having a bullet. Switch back to the awp and it starts to load the new round again. This zoom delay works, but is confusing and there is no way to really know if you can fire again. 3) Whats the model updates? I havent notice anny changes, although some say their fps dropped, but they always say that since fps can easliy be lied about and gives them a reason for being gh3yed l1k3 a nub or whatever it is they say now. 4) I did notice the interface tweaks, looks like crap if you ask me. The old stuff was fine. Anyways guys, you stand once again to piss off a bunch of people here. Im glad you changed the awp, although instead of fixing it you just make it seemed to be broke. The crosshairs? wtf? Why dont you guys fix things that really need to be fixed? Are you even listening to the community? I can give you some links to some community sites if you want some feedback. I dont know where you guys are getting your instructions from but they definitly do not have their finger on the pulse of the gaming community. I'm starting to think this is part of some kind of marketing scheme to change small crap until you eventually make everyone want to stop playing cs. I'm really starting to think cs was better before valve bought it. Finally, here is a list of things that need to be fixed on the client. Other can add to this if they want. I normally wouldnt do this, but you guys sold CZ already and I was hoping it would fix alot of these problems. Since you dropped the ball on that one I dont think its too much to ask. 1) steam is SLOW. It takes longer for me to join a cstrike game if steam isnt running than it does for me to join a ut2004 game and the interface is really unresponsive. Also steam eats up a ton of memory when running. All in all, you guys need to optimized steam a little better. All it is, is a download manager and an im client. How hard can it be? 2) The riot shield SUX!!! Make a server opion to disable it. Make it so the people take damage when using it. Make them run alot slower. Make them bright pink. I dont care, just do something. You guys do realize this thing is banned in almost every league right? Ohh wait, i forgot you guys just spent time updating the crosshairs for cs, so you dont. Ok, well this thing is banned in almost every league. 3) FPS is getting lower and lower with each update, how about you guys try optimizing the engine some more? Don't tell me it can't be done, you are making HL2 and ive seen movies of it. 4) Add some more realism to the game. *ahem* cts running around with silencers on all the guns regardless of weather or not they are really on? That kind of stuff was acceptable back when hl came out, but now? 5) MAKE VAC WORK!! Dont ban the hackers from cstrike, just ban them from vac servers. Cheating is fine, IF the server allows it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
