Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Gary Stanley
At 09:38 AM 11/17/2008, Saint K. wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
>machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
>8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
>when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>
>Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
>is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the readings.
>
>Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
>for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
>somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.

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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Gary Stanley
At 09:38 AM 11/17/2008, Saint K. wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
>machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
>8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
>when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>
>Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
>is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the readings.
>
>Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
>for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
>somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.

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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Joseph Laws
Tickless is bad, mmkay? 

David A. Parker wrote:
> Does anyone know whether a tickless system (dynamic ticks) is or is not 
> preferable?  I have read some things that say to use dynamic tiks, but 
> threads in this list have said not to.  Any definitive answer on this?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Dave
>
> Saint K. wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply (and the others). The kernel in question used is the
>> 2.6.27. I compiled it using the default config file which ships with Lenny.
>> I have played around with HZ settings, the preempt thingies, tickles etc,
>> but nothing seems to influence the CPU load. (This is tested with a vanilla
>> TF2 install).
>>
>> Could you point out to me which are the important settings I should
>> configure? I'll then give 2.6.28-rc4 a shot as suggested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ics
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:06 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions
>>
>> Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server 
>> CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other 
>> servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core), 
>> C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy 
>> asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was 
>> yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have 
>> you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested 
>> 2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> Did you check with htop?
>>> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>>>
>>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
>>> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>>>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>>>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>>>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>>>
>>>> -ics
>>>>
>>>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
>>>>>   
>> resources now.
>> 
>>>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
>>>>>> 
>> 2.33GHz
>> 
>>>>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
>>>>>> 
>> around
>> 
>>>>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already,
>>>>>> 
>> and
>> 
>>>>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out
>>>>>> 
>> what it
>> 
>>>>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
>>>>>> 
>> readings.
>> 
>>>>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
>>>>>> 
>> looking
>> 
>>>>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS
>>>>>> 
>> is
>> 
>>>>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Ronny Schedel

Depends on what kind of servers you want to run. My experience with tickless 
kernel and HLDS servers: it's a no go. Could work with SRCDS, I never tried.

Best regards

Ronny Schedel


> Does anyone know whether a tickless system (dynamic ticks) is or is not
> preferable?  I have read some things that say to use dynamic tiks, but
> threads in this list have said not to.  Any definitive answer on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Saint K. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply (and the others). The kernel in question used is 
>> the
>> 2.6.27. I compiled it using the default config file which ships with 
>> Lenny.
>> I have played around with HZ settings, the preempt thingies, tickles etc,
>> but nothing seems to influence the CPU load. (This is tested with a 
>> vanilla
>> TF2 install).
>>
>> Could you point out to me which are the important settings I should
>> configure? I'll then give 2.6.28-rc4 a shot as suggested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ics
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:06 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions
>>
>> Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server
>> CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other
>> servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core),
>> C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy
>> asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was
>> yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have
>> you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested
>> 2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>>> Did you check with htop?
>>> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>>>
>>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
>>> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>>>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>>>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>>>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>>>
>>>> -ics
>>>>
>>>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
>> resources now.
>>>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
>> 2.33GHz
>>>>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
>> around
>>>>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% 
>>>>>> already,
>> and
>>>>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish 
>>>>>> FPS).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out
>> what it
>>>>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
>> readings.
>>>>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
>> looking
>>>>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS
>> is
>>>>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> archives,
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>>>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread David A. Parker
Does anyone know whether a tickless system (dynamic ticks) is or is not 
preferable?  I have read some things that say to use dynamic tiks, but 
threads in this list have said not to.  Any definitive answer on this?

 Thanks,
 Dave

Saint K. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your reply (and the others). The kernel in question used is the
> 2.6.27. I compiled it using the default config file which ships with Lenny.
> I have played around with HZ settings, the preempt thingies, tickles etc,
> but nothing seems to influence the CPU load. (This is tested with a vanilla
> TF2 install).
> 
> Could you point out to me which are the important settings I should
> configure? I'll then give 2.6.28-rc4 a shot as suggested.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:06 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions
> 
> Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server 
> CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other 
> servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core), 
> C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy 
> asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was 
> yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have 
> you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested 
> 2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.
> 
> -ics
> 
> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> Did you check with htop?
>> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>>
>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
>> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>>> 
>>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
> resources now.
>>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
> 2.33GHz
>>>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
> around
>>>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already,
> and
>>>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out
> what it
>>>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
> readings.
>>>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
> looking
>>>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS
> is
>>>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Saint K.
Hi,

Thanks for your reply (and the others). The kernel in question used is the
2.6.27. I compiled it using the default config file which ships with Lenny.
I have played around with HZ settings, the preempt thingies, tickles etc,
but nothing seems to influence the CPU load. (This is tested with a vanilla
TF2 install).

Could you point out to me which are the important settings I should
configure? I'll then give 2.6.28-rc4 a shot as suggested.

Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:06 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server 
CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other 
servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core), 
C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy 
asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was 
yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have 
you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested 
2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.

-ics

Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
> Did you check with htop?
> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>
> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
resources now.
>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
2.33GHz
>>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
around
>>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already,
and
>>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>>>
>>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out
what it
>>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
readings.
>>>>
>>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
looking
>>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS
is
>>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Saint K.
Hi,

Thanks for your reply (and the others). The kernel in question used is the
2.6.27. I compiled it using the default config file which ships with Lenny.
I have played around with HZ settings, the preempt thingies, tickles etc,
but nothing seems to influence the CPU load. (This is tested with a vanilla
TF2 install).

Could you point out to me which are the important settings I should
configure? I'll then give 2.6.28-rc4 a shot as suggested.

Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:06 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server 
CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other 
servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core), 
C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy 
asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was 
yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have 
you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested 
2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.

-ics

Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
> Did you check with htop?
> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>
> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
resources now.
>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
2.33GHz
>>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
around
>>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already,
and
>>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>>>
>>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out
what it
>>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
readings.
>>>>
>>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
looking
>>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS
is
>>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread ics
Yes, only thing that could have increased is slight peaks on TF2 server 
CPU usage but overall its running as fine as before like few other 
servers on that machine. 30 slot TF2, average CPUon full  ~85% (1 core), 
C2Q6600 2,4GHz. There was a email screenshot on some site where a guy 
asked if Valve is going to update TF2 into L4D engine and the answer was 
yes. Perhaps this change will lower the usage that you are seeing. Have 
you tried another kernel to see if the problem persists? We tested 
2.6.27 first, then newer one 2.6.28-rc4 which seems to run fine.

-ics

Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
> Did you check with htop?
> I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:
>
> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
> Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
>> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
>> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
>> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more resources 
>>> now.
>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Hi,

 I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
 machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
 when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).

 Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
 is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the 
 readings.

 Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
 for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
 somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.

 Cheers,


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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread J T
You can't run lenny with an old kernel since you need a 2.6 kernel and
during the update it would have taken the latest kernel from the apt
repositories.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:26 AM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>
> -ics
>
> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
> > I have the feeling it;s debian related.
> > I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more
> resources now.
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces)
> 2.33GHz
> >> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already
> around
> >> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already,
> and
> >> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
> >>
> >> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what
> it
> >> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the
> readings.
> >>
> >> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am
> looking
> >> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
> >> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Jordy van Wolferen
Did you check with htop?
I see tf2 is eating around 5% of the total cpu on a quad core:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz
Kernel: Stock Debian kernel:  2.6.26-1-amd64


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run
> L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the
> same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came
> along with a system, that might be the cause.
>
> -ics
>
> Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
>> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
>> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more resources 
>> now.
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
>>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
>>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
>>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>>
>>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
>>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the readings.
>>>
>>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
>>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
>>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread ics
We also updated to lenny from etch so we could have never glibc to run 
L4D and i havent seen any increased performance with TF2 server on the 
same machine as L4D ones are. If you have old kernel or one that came 
along with a system, that might be the cause.

-ics

Jordy van Wolferen kirjoitti:
> I have the feeling it;s debian related.
> I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more resources 
> now.
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
>> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
>> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
>> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>>
>> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
>> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the readings.
>>
>> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
>> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
>> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] More kernel questions

2008-11-17 Thread Jordy van Wolferen
I have the feeling it;s debian related.
I updated from etch to lenny (for l4d) and tf2 is using way more resources now.
Can anyone confirm this?

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed Debian Lenny on a dual Qcore Xeon (new onces) 2.33GHz
> machine. My issue currently is that an empty TF2 server uses already around
> 8% CPU load on a single core. With 5 players this rises to 25% already, and
> when coming close to 20 players it uses 99.99% of one core(10 ish FPS).
>
> Somehow this must be related to the kernel, I just can't figure out what it
> is. I've tried several different kernels, but see no change in the readings.
>
> Would some one be willing to share their kernel config file? I am looking
> for a stable FPS with as low CPU load as possible. As long as the FPS is
> somewere around 80 stable I'm fine with it.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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