Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 doc drga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Valve have already given an official stance on this in the past with the answer NO and they gave a reason for why they said NO, it has been repeated in this thread -- what more can you ask for? -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 doc drga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no third party mods that let you lift the cap? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 doc drga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
There's one but as far as I know it no longer functions. http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=4 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, doc drga...@gmail.com wrote: I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no third party mods that let you lift the cap? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 doc drga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlén bjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
I remember that HL2DM was the source of getting over 24 players on TF2 with binary hack in thefirst place when it came out, way before Valve officially allowed more than 24 players. So HL2DM used to be able to run 32 slots, but i guess its back after OrangeBox change or some other update before that. -ics 20.7.2011 1:09, doc kirjoitti: I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no third party mods that let you lift the cap? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
the code is clear in hl2mp_gameinterface.cpp ...
void CServerGameClients::GetPlayerLimits( int minplayers, int maxplayers,
int defaultMaxPlayers ) const
{
minplayers = defaultMaxPlayers = 2;
maxplayers = 16;
}
2011/7/20 ics i...@ics-base.net
I remember that HL2DM was the source of getting over 24 players on TF2 with
binary hack in thefirst place when it came out, way before Valve officially
allowed more than 24 players. So HL2DM used to be able to run 32 slots, but
i guess its back after OrangeBox change or some other update before that.
-ics
20.7.2011 1:09, doc kirjoitti:
I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said
and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no
third party mods that let you lift the cap?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no.
regards
2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com
They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and
isn't something they can just switch and be done with :(
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ?
regards
2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com
It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every
game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run
mods based on that.
Customization is what makes games fun.
Kyle.
2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com**:
Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is
designed
for
24
players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this
works
(no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom
server
with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are
designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind.
This
is
why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a
hideous
crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2
gameplay.
One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers
on
stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of
Teamfortress
on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :)
-The G
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com
bottige...@gmail.comwrote:
How about raising the limit for tf2?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com** wrote:
Do want
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
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Hi Valve,
We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play
as
16
players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ?
Please answer.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
The engine was originally compiled for 32 slots, but maxplayers was limited to 24. DF's plugin simply removed the maxplayers cap, letting you use all 32 slots. A while back they bumped it to 33 slots ( to accommodate 32+sourcetv/replay ) and it's been like that ever since. They removed the 24x maxplayers thing since there were ample 32x servers anyway, although you can still use DF's plugin to set -maxplayers 33 to make use of that final slot if you don't have a replay bot (using -replay increases your server to 33 if you're at maxplayers 32 anyway). Mods to the server to support 33 are useless, as clients can only store info about 33 players maximum, so as soon as a player is put into slot 34 all connected clients will crash. Modding the server to support 33 would be very difficult anyway, as there are a good deal of places where it assumes that there will be no more than 33 players. Also, TF2 on 32x is pretty spam-heavy already, not to mention the extreme CPU usage serverside. - Neph On 07/19/2011 03:22 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: There's one but as far as I know it no longer functions. http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=4 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, docdrga...@gmail.com wrote: I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no third party mods that let you lift the cap? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no. regards 2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and isn't something they can just switch and be done with :( On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ? regards 2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run mods based on that. Customization is what makes games fun. Kyle. 2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com: Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is designed for 24 players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this works (no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom server with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind. This is why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a hideous crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2 gameplay. One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers on stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of Teamfortress on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :) -The G On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.comwrote: How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe,
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
This function caps the -maxplayers value, the actual max amount of slots
the server (and client) can handle is some #define somewhere
- Neph
On 07/19/2011 03:29 PM, Loïc PERY wrote:
the code is clear in hl2mp_gameinterface.cpp ...
void CServerGameClients::GetPlayerLimits( int minplayers, int maxplayers,
intdefaultMaxPlayers ) const
{
minplayers = defaultMaxPlayers = 2;
maxplayers = 16;
}
2011/7/20 icsi...@ics-base.net
I remember that HL2DM was the source of getting over 24 players on TF2 with
binary hack in thefirst place when it came out, way before Valve officially
allowed more than 24 players. So HL2DM used to be able to run 32 slots, but
i guess its back after OrangeBox change or some other update before that.
-ics
20.7.2011 1:09, doc kirjoitti:
I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said
and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no
third party mods that let you lift the cap?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no.
regards
2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com
They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and
isn't something they can just switch and be done with :(
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ?
regards
2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com
It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every
game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run
mods based on that.
Customization is what makes games fun.
Kyle.
2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com**:
Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is
designed
for
24
players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where this
works
(no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom
server
with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps are
designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind.
This
is
why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a
hideous
crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2
gameplay.
One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32 servers
on
stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of
Teamfortress
on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :)
-The G
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com
bottige...@gmail.comwrote:
How about raising the limit for tf2?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com** wrote:
Do want
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Valve,
We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play
as
16
players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ?
Please answer.
Best regards.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Just looking through the Alien Swarm base (I don't have the 2007 code
immediately accessible), it looks like 32 is hardcoded into a bunch of
places, but then there's this:
// This is the max # of players the engine can handle
// Note, must be power of 2
#define ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT 64
#define ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT_DW ( (ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT/32) + 1 )
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Nephyrin Zey nephy...@doublezen.netwrote:
This function caps the -maxplayers value, the actual max amount of slots
the server (and client) can handle is some #define somewhere
- Neph
On 07/19/2011 03:29 PM, Loïc PERY wrote:
the code is clear in hl2mp_gameinterface.cpp ...
void CServerGameClients::**GetPlayerLimits( int minplayers, int
maxplayers,
intdefaultMaxPlayers ) const
{
minplayers = defaultMaxPlayers = 2;
maxplayers = 16;
}
2011/7/20 icsi...@ics-base.net
I remember that HL2DM was the source of getting over 24 players on TF2
with
binary hack in thefirst place when it came out, way before Valve
officially
allowed more than 24 players. So HL2DM used to be able to run 32 slots,
but
i guess its back after OrangeBox change or some other update before that.
-ics
20.7.2011 1:09, doc kirjoitti:
I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said
and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no
third party mods that let you lift the cap?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no.
regards
2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com
They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and
isn't something they can just switch and be done with :(
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ?
regards
2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com
It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every
game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run
mods based on that.
Customization is what makes games fun.
Kyle.
2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com:
Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is
designed
for
24
players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where
this
works
(no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom
server
with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps
are
designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind.
This
is
why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a
hideous
crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2
gameplay.
One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32
servers
on
stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of
Teamfortress
on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :)
-The G
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com
bottige...@gmail.comwrote:
How about raising the limit for tf2?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote:
Do want
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY
louloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Valve,
We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only
play
as
16
players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ?
Please answer.
Best regards.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Speaking of other places that the player count may be relevant, the TF2
vote system uses client index 99 to represent the server as the caller
of a vote, specifically in the VoteStart usermessage.
I did a bunch of reverse engineering of the messages and events that the
votes use, more information here: http://wiki.alliedmods.net/TF2_Voting
Sadly, I haven't finished my SourceMod extension to control these votes
(and the L4D/L4D2 votes) yet.
On 7/19/2011 9:30 PM, Netshroud wrote:
Just looking through the Alien Swarm base (I don't have the 2007 code
immediately accessible), it looks like 32 is hardcoded into a bunch of
places, but then there's this:
// This is the max # of players the engine can handle
// Note, must be power of 2
#define ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT 64
#define ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT_DW ( (ABSOLUTE_PLAYER_LIMIT/32) + 1 )
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Nephyrin Zeynephy...@doublezen.netwrote:
This function caps the -maxplayers value, the actual max amount of slots
the server (and client) can handle is some #define somewhere
- Neph
On 07/19/2011 03:29 PM, Loïc PERY wrote:
the code is clear in hl2mp_gameinterface.cpp ...
void CServerGameClients::**GetPlayerLimits( int minplayers, int
maxplayers,
intdefaultMaxPlayers ) const
{
minplayers = defaultMaxPlayers = 2;
maxplayers = 16;
}
2011/7/20 icsi...@ics-base.net
I remember that HL2DM was the source of getting over 24 players on TF2
with
binary hack in thefirst place when it came out, way before Valve
officially
allowed more than 24 players. So HL2DM used to be able to run 32 slots,
but
i guess its back after OrangeBox change or some other update before that.
-ics
20.7.2011 1:09, doc kirjoitti:
I could try and fish up the post where they said no but it's been said
and stated before, they aren't going to raise the cap. Are there no
third party mods that let you lift the cap?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Maybe, but a response is the minimum with the reason for yes or no.
regards
2011/7/19 docdrga...@gmail.com
They probably aren't going to do it, it has wider implications and
isn't something they can just switch and be done with :(
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Loïc PERYlouloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Somebody from Valve can respond to my request please ?
regards
2011/7/19 Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com
It would be pretty cool to remove the limit all together (On every
game)... Have server owners decide what they'd like to have and run
mods based on that.
Customization is what makes games fun.
Kyle.
2011/7/18 Björn Rohlénbjorn.roh...@gmail.com:
Yes, because mp32 is not broken enough in TF2. The game is
designed
for
24
players and mp32 is enough blasphemy. I've seen ONE server where
this
works
(no idea if it is intentional) and that's ICS:s peliburkki custom
server
with mp30 and HUGE custom payload maps. Brilliant fun. Valve maps
are
designed for UP TO 24 but have smaller amounts of players in mind.
This
is
why 32 players is such a boring stale/spam-fest on stock maps and a
hideous
crime towards what is to be considered pleasant and ethical tf2
gameplay.
One could (and should) see the server operators running mp32
servers
on
stock maps as trying to undermine and destroy the fine game of
Teamfortress
on purpose, hence, the EVIL ENEMY :)
-The G
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, bottige...@gmail.com
bottige...@gmail.comwrote:
How about raising the limit for tf2?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.comwrote:
Do want
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY
louloubi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Valve,
We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only
play
as
16
players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ?
Please answer.
Best regards.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Request: unlock maxplayers HL2DM from 16 to 32
How about raising the limit for tf2? On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:00 PM, James Puckett jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote: Do want On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Loïc PERY louloubi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Valve, We love playing Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Source but we can only play as 16 players. Can you upgrade the limit to 32 please ? Please answer. Best regards. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
