[Hornlist] Paxman Diploma model
Sorry for the cross-post, but there are so many wizards on both lists! I have recently acquired an interesting horn - a Paxman Diploma model. If everything I have been told is true, it was an early 50's copy of an Alexander 103, which were not available just after WW2. I don't have any way to compare an Alex 103 directly, but from photos it appears to be an exact copy. It is beautifully made, probably by Paxman the elder, and has a few nice patches. The bell throat is quite small (measured by how far in a mute goes). The Bb side is gorgeous - just the right amount of resistance to make the high end easy to deal with. The F side is a bit, well, blubbery, but I've been playing on a single Bb (1965 5-valve Paxman). Everything is well in tune with itself. I am playing only in a Woodwind Quintet at the moment, and it blends quite well. The valves, however, have very little compression. The end bearings and mechanical linkage are in great shape (no clicks), but the slides don't pop. I am considering a radical valve rebuild (the kind that involves plating, lapping, and about $1,000). Does anybody have any advice about the results I might expect? Like, a) that thing is a dog and will never be worth that, or b) ohmyhgod, you have a total treasure that should be insured and in your will? Or most likely something inbetween? Thanks, Jerry Jensen ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
AW: [Hornlist] Editor, Composer, Arranger??
He is not the only one who completed K371. Franz Bayer, the Mozart scholar, who completed the Requiem, has published his instrumentation by Kunzelmann Editions/ Switzerland, strongly following Mozart´s demands. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Joe DUKE Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 20:25 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [Hornlist] Editor, Composer, Arranger?? Hi, List. I am advised that the Mozart Rondo in Eb, K. 371, latest expanded version, has been completed in the accompaniment by a compser/arranger whose name is Erik Smith. My source for that name does not know where the music might be obtained, however, so I am appealing to all readers, here, to help me with this question. If anyone knows where this orchestration (parts plus score) may be bought, I surely will appreciate the help!! Thanks to all.Joe Duke ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RUSTED BEARINGS
Lucy: Off course, if you have a jacuzzi you can join your horn and play the theme to Captain Kidd while you fire slides from the stopped horn at the rubber duckies. Your aim will be much better if you turn off the jets, off course. A word of caution,- wait until all the ducks are defeated and you are out of the tub before you do the blow dryer thing. Alternatively, leave the horn in the drink and then throw in the dryer. Your Holton may never work right again, but when you sell it on eBay you can state with complete veracity that it was electrosonically degreased. Julio de la Rosa - Original Message - From: "Cyndie Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Need advice > Two thoughts...check the port alignment on all the valves, check for a leak > at the casing. One easy way to check it all over is to draw a bath, > submerse the horn except the bell and mouthpipe. Stop the horn and blow. > Everything will get wet but, it's not going to hurt the horn if you blow dry > it after and put some oil on the springs and rods so they don't rust. Good > luck, Cyn > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:46 PM > Subject: [Hornlist] Need advice > > > > On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 04:04 PM, Lucy Hughes wrote: > > > > > I had put it down so I could have some lunch and when I returned, the > > > most curious thing had happened to my Bb side. Every note that > > > required the Bb side sounded positively dreadful. It sounded as though > > > great amounts of air were escaping all over the place; the high notes > > > were airy and disgustingly shrill... I wrestled with it for a while > > > and gave it a good clean to make sure that nothing unsavory was lodged > > > somewhere in the tubing and tried again. It was distressing, it > > > sounded exactly as it had previously, airy, forced and awful. > > > > *** > > I bet you felt really good to be able to put down your horn and run off to > > lunch. Didn't you, Lucy? But did you ever stop to think that your horn > > might resent being left behind? Nope! Did you consider that it have been > > just as hungry as you? No way! Did you think to offer yout horn any > food? > > No! Not at all! Instead you returned, well fed, and inconsiderately blew > > air through your horn, so that your breath, warmly redolent with > tantalizing > > reminders of your recent savory meal, tortured your horn beyond bearing! > > Think how you would feel if someone did this to you! Boy, I bet YOUR > > B flat side would sound disgusting and shrill too. > > > > Next time, I suggest that you share. > > > > And you know, an apology wouldn't hurt, either. > > > > Gotta go, > > Cabbage > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cyn%40aimcomm.net > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Editor, Composer, Arranger??
Hi, List. I am advised that the Mozart Rondo in Eb, K. 371, latest expanded version, has been completed in the accompaniment by a compser/arranger whose name is Erik Smith. My source for that name does not know where the music might be obtained, however, so I am appealing to all readers, here, to help me with this question. If anyone knows where this orchestration (parts plus score) may be bought, I surely will appreciate the help!! Thanks to all.Joe Duke ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
AW: [Hornlist] re: need advice
WE did this to a colleague (professional), when he left the pit as he had a 20 min. break. So we mixed up all his six valve slides where possible. When he returned he did not give a look to the horn & just played. His fingerings were correct but the sound output was terrible. As is is a quite insecure player (from the player personality, while his attitudes are more like a champion), he did not find ount anything about why the notes were out of tune. Boy, had we (the second horn & myself) a hard time to keep off laughing while playing. But we did not help the fellow, but we changed back the slides during his next break absence from the pit. He smiled when he played the horn again, but still did not understand what had happen with his horn, the one way or the other. Dont try this "criminal" experiment with a "real horn expert". They get it within seconds & will blame you with their "alternate fingerings". -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Evan Hayes Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 18:35 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [Hornlist] re: need advice On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 04:04 PM, Lucy Hughes wrote: > I had put it down so I could have some lunch and when I returned, the > most curious thing had happened to my Bb side. Every note that > required the Bb side sounded positively dreadful. It sounded as though > great amounts of air were escaping all over the place; the high notes > were airy and disgustingly shrill... I wrestled with it for a while > and gave it a good clean to make sure that nothing unsavory was lodged > somewhere in the tubing and tried again. It was distressing, it > sounded exactly as it had previously, airy, forced and awful. --- While I'm sorry that I don't have any advice, but it reminds me of a time we got the school horns back from the shop. Some one who will remain nameless started playing on hers. First, she started doing scales to warmup, but the scales weren't comeout; there where 1/2 steps where there shouldn't be, and odd intervals. She asked me what I thought it was. I took the horn from her, and stared at it, my head cocked to the side. "Something looks odd..." Some fool in the shop was either just plain dum or in a hurry, cause they switched the first and third valve slides. www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Need advice
Two thoughts...check the port alignment on all the valves, check for a leak at the casing. One easy way to check it all over is to draw a bath, submerse the horn except the bell and mouthpipe. Stop the horn and blow. Everything will get wet but, it's not going to hurt the horn if you blow dry it after and put some oil on the springs and rods so they don't rust. Good luck, Cyn - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Need advice > On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 04:04 PM, Lucy Hughes wrote: > > > I had put it down so I could have some lunch and when I returned, the > > most curious thing had happened to my Bb side. Every note that > > required the Bb side sounded positively dreadful. It sounded as though > > great amounts of air were escaping all over the place; the high notes > > were airy and disgustingly shrill... I wrestled with it for a while > > and gave it a good clean to make sure that nothing unsavory was lodged > > somewhere in the tubing and tried again. It was distressing, it > > sounded exactly as it had previously, airy, forced and awful. > > *** > I bet you felt really good to be able to put down your horn and run off to > lunch. Didn't you, Lucy? But did you ever stop to think that your horn > might resent being left behind? Nope! Did you consider that it have been > just as hungry as you? No way! Did you think to offer yout horn any food? > No! Not at all! Instead you returned, well fed, and inconsiderately blew > air through your horn, so that your breath, warmly redolent with tantalizing > reminders of your recent savory meal, tortured your horn beyond bearing! > Think how you would feel if someone did this to you! Boy, I bet YOUR > B flat side would sound disgusting and shrill too. > > Next time, I suggest that you share. > > And you know, an apology wouldn't hurt, either. > > Gotta go, > Cabbage > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cyn%40aimcomm.net > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bernard Heiden Sonata
Adrienne, I just finished playing the Heiden Sonata for my upper level during the spring at the university I attend. I LOVED it! I really didn't like it at first, but once I started to get the hang of it I feel in love with it. I still play at it when I practice. I hear ya' about the third movement. This past spring, there were three of us doing an upper level for that semester and all playing the Heiden. So, our professor had each one of us play one of the movements at our Horn Ensemble concert in the spring. I got to play the third movement and those 3/8 2/4 bars gave me some frustration. The best thing that helped me was to listen to a recording. If you can find one. It helped me to hear where those fit in with the piano accompaniment. Another big problem I had was in the first movement on the second page. The little occia (I think that's what it is called); ask you teacher about alternate fingerings or you can figure them out yourself. My professor told me those and they helped me with speed a lot. Many of the notes can be fingered the same way with the thumb and you just have to use the lips. Good Luck! And have fun! Lauren San Marcos, Texas >= Original Message From The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Hello Hornlist! > >This summer I am having a great time learning the Heiden Sonata. Especially >the 3rd movement, which is great fun and a hoot to count. No joke! I just >wondered who else here has played the piece, and whether you might have any >anecdotes to share, what you enjoyed about the piece, didn't enjoy, found >challenging, places to breathe in the 3rd movement (er, typical question >from me of smallish lungs and large-bore horn), etc. > >Incidentally, I am working with a real live teacher on this piece. :) > >Anyone? This is the first Heiden I have played. I am also curious about >other pieces -- by this or other composers-- that may be similar. Always >expanding my music library. > >Does the 2nd movement melody remind anyone else of Ravel's Pavanne? I >haven't figured out WHY yet. Something to do contour, I think. (??) > >Hope you are all having a lovely summer! > >Adrienne in Kentucky, USA ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] name that mello tune
Whoops forgot to send this to the rest of the Hornlist. The piece is by Yehuda Yannay. Its on the CD Hidden Melodies (info at http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=yyannaycds)"> http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=yyannaycds) Its from "The Hidden Melody". Greg Flint on Horn, Calin Lupanu on violin and viola (viola I believe on this piece). This ebay audio sample is definately a hoax. No doubt about it. I just hope some people don't fall for it. Hope that helps? -William In a message dated 7/15/2003 10:23:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj: [Hornlist] name that mello tune > Date: 7/15/2003 10:23:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent from the Internet > > > > Go to the ebay page, go to the bottom, click for the sound bite, NAME THAT > TUNE! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2545164471&category=16215 > > If Mellophones sounded like this there would be a lot of Holtons and Conn in > the trash. > > LB > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re: need advice
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 04:04 PM, Lucy Hughes wrote: > I had put it down so I could have some lunch and when I returned, the > most curious thing had happened to my Bb side. Every note that > required the Bb side sounded positively dreadful. It sounded as though > great amounts of air were escaping all over the place; the high notes > were airy and disgustingly shrill... I wrestled with it for a while > and gave it a good clean to make sure that nothing unsavory was lodged > somewhere in the tubing and tried again. It was distressing, it > sounded exactly as it had previously, airy, forced and awful. --- While I'm sorry that I don't have any advice, but it reminds me of a time we got the school horns back from the shop. Some one who will remain nameless started playing on hers. First, she started doing scales to warmup, but the scales weren't comeout; there where 1/2 steps where there shouldn't be, and odd intervals. She asked me what I thought it was. I took the horn from her, and stared at it, my head cocked to the side. "Something looks odd..." Some fool in the shop was either just plain dum or in a hurry, cause they switched the first and third valve slides. www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] name that mello tune
Go to the ebay page, go to the bottom, click for the sound bite, NAME THAT TUNE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2545164471&category=16215 If Mellophones sounded like this there would be a lot of Holtons and Conn in the trash. LB ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bruce and Deb Lawsons' new email address
Hi, Just a note that we have changed our email address to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Believe it or not Brucedeb and bruce&deb were both taken. What are the chances? Bruce Lawson ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: test
test -- Finally, a Horn Digest submission that is not controversial! OH... WAIT...is this a brass test or nickel-silver test? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yahoo! Auto Response
hello. i will be teaching at blue lake fine arts camp until july 20 and have only limited access to email. if you need to reach me, try calling my cell phone. thanks! TEK (tammy kosinski) Original Message: X-Rocket-Track: 1: 100 X-Rocket-Server: 66.163.174.38 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mailapps1-ext.prodigy.net (EHLO mailapps1.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.107) by mta804.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [141.225.9.98] Received: from music.memphis.edu (music.memphis.edu [141.225.9.98]) by mailapps1.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6FF3ExN1016972 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:03:14 -0400 Received: from music.memphis.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by music.memphis.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445FE5CFFAB for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:03:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by music.memphis.edu (Postfix, from userid 1029) id 2764D5C59E0; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tapacom.net (66-192-213-37.gen.twtelecom.net [66.192.213.37]) by music.memphis.edu (Postfix) wit ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Call for Papers - 2004 Hawaii International Conferenceon Arts and Humanities
Call for Papers/Abstracts/Submissions Hawaii International Conference on Arts and Humanities January 8 - 11, 2004 Renaissance Ilikai Waikiki Hotel, Honolulu Hawaii, USA Submission Deadline: August 18, 2003 Web address: http://www.hichumanities.org/ Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 2004 Hawaii International Conference on Arts and Humanities will be held from January 8 (Thursday) to January 11 (Sunday), 2004 at the Renaissance Ilikai Waikiki Hotel in Honolulu, Hawaii. The conference will provide many opportunities for academicians and professionals from arts and humanities and related fields to interact with members inside and outside their own particular disciplines. Cross-disciplinary submissions are welcome. Topic Areas (All Areas of Arts and Humanities are Invited) *American Studies *Archeology *Architecture *Landscape Architecture *Art *Dance *English *Ethnic Studies *Film *History *Languages *Literature *Linguistics *Music *Performing Arts *Philosophy *Religion *Second Language Studies *Speech/Communication *Theatre *Other Areas of Arts and Humanities *Cross-disciplinary areas of the above related to each other or other areas The Hawaii International Conference on Arts and Humanities encourages the following types of papers/abstracts/submissions for any of the listed areas: Research Papers - Completed papers. Abstracts - Abstracts of completed or proposed research. Student Papers - Research by students. Poster Sessions/Research Tables - informal presentation of papers or abstracts. Work-in-Progress Reports or Proposals for future projects. Reports on issues related to teaching. Panel Discussions, Practitioner Forums and Tutorials are invited. Workshop proposals are invited. For more information about submissions see: http://www.hichumanities.org/cfp_artshumanities.htm Submission Guidelines 1. Submissions may be made electronically via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailed. Electronic submissions are preferred. Submissions will be acknowledged within 48 hours. If submissions are mailed, submit two copies of your paper, report, abstract, proposal or study. Submissions imply that at least one author will register for the conference and be present at the time designated in the conference program. Submissions must be received by August 18, 2003. E-Mail, fax or mail submissions to: Hawaii International Conference on Arts and Humanities P.O. Box 75036 Honolulu HI, 96836, USA Telephone: (808) 949-1456 Fax: (808) 947-2420 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a limit of two contributed papers per lead author. 2. Each submission must include a separate title page as outlined below: a. title of the submission, b. topic area of the submission (available at http://www.hichumanities.org/cfp_artshumanities.htm), c. two or three keywords that describe the submission, d. name(s) of the author(s), e. mailing address(es), f. e-mail address(es), g. phone number(s), h. fax number(s), i. corresponding author if different than lead author. Correspondence regarding receipt of submission will be made by e-mail unless another mode of correspondence is requested. BE SURE AND INCLUDE THE TOPIC AREA AND TWO OR THREE KEY WORDS DESCRIBING THE SUBMISSION. 3. Submissions will only be published in the conference proceedings if at least one of the authors attends the conference. Instructions for submitting a computer readable format for the proceedings will be provided when the submission is accepted. 4. If you wish to be a reviewer, session chair, or discussant, please e-mail your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and indicate the topic area in which you are interested. Registration for the conference is required to be a session chair or discussant. Web address: http://www.hichumanities.org/ Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To be removed from this list, please reply to this e-mail with the word remove in the subject heading. Hawaii International Conference on Arts and Humanities P.O. Box 75036 Honolulu, Hawaii 96836, USA Telephone: (808) 949-1456 Fax: (808) 947-2420 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.hichumanities.org/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
