Re: [Hornlist] lathe needed

[Robert Losin]

At 16:28 28-10-03, you wrote:

I have to give back the lathe I've been borrowing and now need to replace 
it.  Money is a huge object.  Size is not.  I need it to be accurate and 
take collets.
  A lot depends on what size collets that you need the headstock to 
take... {My two old Atlas lathes take 2 MT, and 3 MT, also 5C with a collet 
chuck on the larger lathe. }  If you are near Detroit I can lend you some 
lathe time on mine, but if not, check the local papers.  There are still a 
lot of decent old Atlas lathes out there that people don't know what to do 
with, that can be had for cheap.   Also check used machinery, junk dealers, 
and auctions as a lot of shops are closing due to the economy, at least 
around here they are.

Bob Losin

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Re: [Hornlist] lathe needed

[Carlberg Jones]

At 8:26 PM -0500 10/28/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Consider the Shurline lathes.  They are well liked, especially by woodwinds
>techs.


That would be ShErline lathes - http://www.sherline.com/

Carlberg Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO


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Re: [Hornlist] lathe needed

[BrassArtsUnlim]

In a message dated 10/28/2003 4:34:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Money is a huge object. 

Consider the Shurline lathes.  They are well liked, especially by woodwinds 
techs.

Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited
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Re: [Hornlist] Selmer, Courtois, Finke Brochures

[Paul Mansur]

It is possible.  Watch your mail for surprises.Paul

On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 07:24 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote:

I'd love to have the Selmer and Courtois brouchures, and the Gorden
booklet. Do you think they could go with the records?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Hornlist] Selmer, Courtois, Finke Brochures

[Carlberg Jones]

At 6:19 PM -0500 10/28/03, Paul Mansur wrote:
>I'm still cleaning house and downsizing.  I found brochures from the
>First Brass Congress, 1976, in Montreux, Switzerland.  Being so close
>to France, exhibitors included Selmer, Paris; and Courtois.  I kept
>brochures illustrating their piston valve ascending double horns that
>were once so popular in France and Belgium.  These are full color
>prints, including the Selmer models in brass and silver.  Both the
>Selmer and Courtois horns were available in either ascending or
>descending 3rd valve format.

>   Another interesting souvenir is a booklet by Claude Gordon entitled:
>'How to practice to develop your high and low ranges.'  Mr. Gordon
>was/is (?) a trumpet player but his advice is probably good for other
>brass instruments than trumpet and cornet.  It was published by Benge
>and distributed by King.  The material is adapted from his Carl Fischer
>books on Trumpet practice and routines.

Hi, Paul -

I'd love to have the Selmer and Courtois brouchures, and the Gorden
booklet. Do you think they could go with the records?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Carlberg

Carlberg Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO


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[Hornlist] Selmer, Courtois, Finke Brochures

[Paul Mansur]

I'm still cleaning house and downsizing.  I found brochures from the 
First Brass Congress, 1976, in Montreux, Switzerland.  Being so close 
to France, exhibitors included Selmer, Paris; and Courtois.  I kept 
brochures illustrating their piston valve ascending double horns that 
were once so popular in France and Belgium.  These are full color 
prints, including the Selmer models in brass and silver.  Both the 
Selmer and Courtois horns were available in either ascending or 
descending 3rd valve format.
 I also have a small Finke flyer illustrating a few of their first 
production model horns.  The descant horn at that time had a rotary 
change valve rather than the sliding valve now used.   The double Bb 
high F descant horn had a total of 6 rotary valves.  Later models are 
vastly improved.
	Another interesting souvenir is a booklet by Claude Gordon entitled:  
'How to practice to develop your high and low ranges.'  Mr. Gordon 
was/is (?) a trumpet player but his advice is probably good for other 
brass instruments than trumpet and cornet.  It was published by Benge 
and distributed by King.  The material is adapted from his Carl Fischer 
books on Trumpet practice and routines.

CORdially,  Paul Mansur

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Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia

[Brian Baker]

OOPS! I do apologise.

I missed the L out.

Cheers,

Brian.
- Original Message -
From: "Graeme Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia


> That was OLWEN Jones, by the way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Graeme Evans
> (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra)
> +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax)
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia
>
>
> > Hello Kris,
> >
> > My old horn teacher was Owen Jones who used to play 2nd horn in the
> > Queensland Symphony Orchestra. One of her teachers so I understand was
> > Philip Farkas. She gave lessons at the then, Queensland Music
> Conservatorium
> > and coached the horn sections on the Queensland Youth Orchestras 1,2&3.
> >
> > I think she was living in Kenmore (outer suburb of Brisbane). I'm sorry
I
> > can't help you out with any others. However, I'm sure that "Olli" can be
a
> > great source of information in your quest.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Brian (alias Koala Bear)
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kris Gaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:05 PM
> > Subject: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia
> >
> >
> > > (3rd times a charm... I hope...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Although I am still in the midst of completing my B.Music/B.Teaching
> > degree
> > > I have just started researching what I hope will become the focus for
my
> > > masters of music (musicology) thesis.
> > >
> > > The area that I am exploring is that of Female Horn Players in
> Australia,
> > > focussing on those who have played in the major professional
orchestras,
> > > from the first to hold a seat in a major orchestra to the present.
> > >
> > > Ideally I hope to do this primarily as a historical view - for
instance,
> > > looking at what it was like for female players back in the beginning
as
> > > compaired to now.  Before there was blind auditioning were female
> players
> > > disadvantaged?  Who was the first female hornist to hold a chair in
each
> > of
> > > the major orchestras - when was this etc.  However I desire to also
> > include
> > > shortish biographies on all these hornists.
> > >
> > > I should point out that I am not purely interested in those players
that
> > > hold permanent positions in orchestras, I am also interested in
> > professional
> > > freelance hornists too.
> > >
> > > While thanks to the some what brilliance of the internet I have what I
> > > believe to be a rather recent list of all female hornists currently
> > playing
> > > in the major professional orchestras in Australia (both symphony and
> > > ballet/opera).  However I am finding it nearly impossible to come
across
> > any
> > > information for past players in these orchestras.  While I am aware
that
> > > this will involve hunting through the archives of each orchestra I was
> > > hoping that the hornlist might be able to help kickstart my quest.
> > >
> > > So these few questions I put forth to all of you
> > >
> > > 1. Are there any websites/books/theses out there that focus on either
> > female
> > > horn players in Australia, or female hornists in general (as info on
> > > Australian players might be contained therein).
> > > 2. Does anyone have any info on any female hornists past and/or
> present -
> > > even if it is simply her name and the orchestra, it would cut down my
> time
> > > rummaging around in the archives quite considerably.
> > > 3. And finally if by any chance you are a female hornist who has
either
> > > previously played in or currently playing in any of the professional
> > > orchestras in Australia would it be possible to get in contact with
you
> > > directly.
> > >
> > > Must go and hassle my horn teacher to see if she has any information
on
> > > other players.  I shall leave grilling her on her professional playing
> > > history for another day.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kristy Garrick
> > >
> > > _
> > > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to
> > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp
> > >
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Re: [Hornlist] Horns 4 sale

[Brian Baker]

Peter,

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a "dangerous attachment. I enclose the following text which was placed on
your email after the attachment was deleted.

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Regards,
Brian.

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To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns 4 sale


Quite the opposite.  The seller's description ends, "Sie
erwarten allerdings nicht ein hochwertiges Instrument wie
z.B. von 'Yamaha' oder ähnliches für diesen Preis. Aber
Bisherige Käufer, Musiker, sind sehr zufrieden damit."  This
means, "Of course, you don't expect a high value instrument
such as, for example, 'Yamaha' or similar for this price.
But previous buyers, musicians, are very satisfied with it."

He does offer a 14-day trial period, after which he promises
to return the purchase price, less 30 Euros for cleaning, if
you are not satisfied.

In English or German:  caveat emptor.

Peter W. Schroth


G Napuda wrote:
>
> All Another cross post. Can someone render a rough translation of this ad.
> My fractured GER implies these were made by Yamaha. Take care.







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[Hornlist] regarding Beethoven Sonata

[Hans Pizka]

As described by others, you will find the file with the first print of
the Beethoven Sonata op.17 on my home page at 

www.pizka.de/Beetho.doc

It will take a while to download it as it is a rather big file with 2,3
MB. As made with Adobe Acrobat, you probably cannot change the document.

If you are interested on more horn topics etc., visit


www.pizka.de/Sitemap.htm

and find topics of your interest.

May I point special to the WrHornPlay.htm pages (down at the bottom of
the Sitemap, with many pictures, audio & video samples of Viennese
players.

Also the special Siegfried pages with many samples (audio & video)

And the pages about horn making , the mouthpieces, horns, sheet music
for or with horn, teaching plans from Vienna, instructions for most
prominent horn pieces, biographies, historical articles, sociology, etc.


Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136
D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany
Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548
home: www.pizka.de
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Re: [Hornlist] lathe needed

[Billbamberg]

In a message dated 10/28/2003 4:28:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> I hope you don't mind a non horn e but, considering some of the banter lately, this 
> may be closer than some.
> I have to give back the lathe I've been borrowing and now need to replace it.  Money 
> is a huge object.  Size is not.  I need it to be accurate and take collets.  My main 
> purpose is turning mouthpieces and back bearing plates.  Most of the 
> work I do by hand.   I'm open to suggestions.
> Thanks, Cyn

Ebay is an obvious first place to look, but shipping can ruin any good deal you find.  
Check local listings and web sites for used equipment brokers.  Sometimes you can get 
a really good deal on something they haven't refurbished.  They get a lot of their 
stuff at auctions open to the public, if you can find them.

My lathe setup has evolved from the days I made pool cues.  It is an inexpensive 
import wood lathe from Harbor freight that I have refitted with a 4" 3-jaw chuck and a 
cross slide.  I rebuilt the lathe bed with 2"x4" steel.  Where I got lucky is the 
cross slide.  It's a Hardinge compound cross slide that cost me $75 to get one of the 
lead screws straightened.  I can chuck bearing plates directly in the 3-jaw.  I've 
made a series of taper adaptors by by boring cylindrical bar stock, then slotting 
front to back and back to front so it can close parallel in the 3-jaw chuck.  I 
recently put a carbide blade on my band saw, so cutting slots is simple.  If you 
haven't tried one of the new carbide blades,I recommend them highly.  They were 
developed to cut billet titanium.

As I said, my setup has evolved one cheap piece at a time to fit any job at hand.  I 
would love to find a good, cheap toolroom lathe myself.

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Re: [Hornlist] Horns 4 sale

[Peter W. Schroth]

Quite the opposite.  The seller's description ends, "Sie
erwarten allerdings nicht ein hochwertiges Instrument wie
z.B. von 'Yamaha' oder ähnliches für diesen Preis. Aber
Bisherige Käufer, Musiker, sind sehr zufrieden damit."  This
means, "Of course, you don't expect a high value instrument
such as, for example, 'Yamaha' or similar for this price. 
But previous buyers, musicians, are very satisfied with it."

He does offer a 14-day trial period, after which he promises
to return the purchase price, less 30 Euros for cleaning, if
you are not satisfied.

In English or German:  caveat emptor.

Peter W. Schroth


G Napuda wrote:
> 
> All Another cross post. Can someone render a rough translation of this ad.
> My fractured GER implies these were made by Yamaha. Take care.
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[Hornlist] Horns 4 sale

[G Napuda]

All Another cross post. Can someone render a rough translation of this ad.
My fractured GER implies these were made by Yamaha. Take care. GN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566320248&ssPageName=ADME:B:RECO:US:2#ebayphotohosting

NAPUDA ASSOC. G Napuda-owner
Management, Technical & TQM Consulting
ENGINEERING: ANS,ASQ,DOD,DOE,NRC,IAEA & nat'l-intn'l Power Plant Utilities
MUSIC: AFM (Life Member),IHS (NJ Rep),US Army, Grade School-College, &
Freelance

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[Hornlist] MP

[G Napuda]

All. A cross post. A short time ago someone was looking for a Farkas type
MP. Came across a Holton Farkas at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2568081708&ssPageName=ADME:B:RECO:US:2
Take care. GN
NAPUDA ASSOC. G Napuda-owner
Management, Technical & TQM Consulting
ENGINEERING: ANS,ASQ,DOD,DOE,NRC,IAEA & nat'l-intn'l Power Plant Utilities
MUSIC: AFM (Life Member),IHS (NJ Rep),US Army, Grade School-College, &
Freelance

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[Hornlist] lathe needed

[Cyndie Sanchez]

I hope you don't mind a non horn e but, considering some of the banter lately, this 
may be closer than some.  
I have to give back the lathe I've been borrowing and now need to replace it.  Money 
is a huge object.  Size is not.  I need it to be accurate and take collets.  My main 
purpose is turning mouthpieces and back bearing plates.  Most of the work I do by 
hand.  I'm open to suggestions.  
Thanks, Cyn
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Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia

[Graeme Evans]

That was OLWEN Jones, by the way.

Cheers,

Graeme Evans
(Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra)
+61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax)
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- Original Message -
From: "Brian Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia


> Hello Kris,
>
> My old horn teacher was Owen Jones who used to play 2nd horn in the
> Queensland Symphony Orchestra. One of her teachers so I understand was
> Philip Farkas. She gave lessons at the then, Queensland Music
Conservatorium
> and coached the horn sections on the Queensland Youth Orchestras 1,2&3.
>
> I think she was living in Kenmore (outer suburb of Brisbane). I'm sorry I
> can't help you out with any others. However, I'm sure that "Olli" can be a
> great source of information in your quest.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian (alias Koala Bear)
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kris Gaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:05 PM
> Subject: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia
>
>
> > (3rd times a charm... I hope...)
> >
> >
> >
> > Although I am still in the midst of completing my B.Music/B.Teaching
> degree
> > I have just started researching what I hope will become the focus for my
> > masters of music (musicology) thesis.
> >
> > The area that I am exploring is that of Female Horn Players in
Australia,
> > focussing on those who have played in the major professional orchestras,
> > from the first to hold a seat in a major orchestra to the present.
> >
> > Ideally I hope to do this primarily as a historical view - for instance,
> > looking at what it was like for female players back in the beginning as
> > compaired to now.  Before there was blind auditioning were female
players
> > disadvantaged?  Who was the first female hornist to hold a chair in each
> of
> > the major orchestras - when was this etc.  However I desire to also
> include
> > shortish biographies on all these hornists.
> >
> > I should point out that I am not purely interested in those players that
> > hold permanent positions in orchestras, I am also interested in
> professional
> > freelance hornists too.
> >
> > While thanks to the some what brilliance of the internet I have what I
> > believe to be a rather recent list of all female hornists currently
> playing
> > in the major professional orchestras in Australia (both symphony and
> > ballet/opera).  However I am finding it nearly impossible to come across
> any
> > information for past players in these orchestras.  While I am aware that
> > this will involve hunting through the archives of each orchestra I was
> > hoping that the hornlist might be able to help kickstart my quest.
> >
> > So these few questions I put forth to all of you
> >
> > 1. Are there any websites/books/theses out there that focus on either
> female
> > horn players in Australia, or female hornists in general (as info on
> > Australian players might be contained therein).
> > 2. Does anyone have any info on any female hornists past and/or
present -
> > even if it is simply her name and the orchestra, it would cut down my
time
> > rummaging around in the archives quite considerably.
> > 3. And finally if by any chance you are a female hornist who has either
> > previously played in or currently playing in any of the professional
> > orchestras in Australia would it be possible to get in contact with you
> > directly.
> >
> > Must go and hassle my horn teacher to see if she has any information on
> > other players.  I shall leave grilling her on her professional playing
> > history for another day.
> >
> >
> > Kristy Garrick
> >
> > _
> > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to
> > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp
> >
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[Hornlist] Guest Artist at Illinois State University

[Joe Neisler]

Dear Colleagues and friends:

I am writing to inform you of an upcoming Guest Artist Horn Master 
Class at Illinois State University.

Nov. 14-15
Martin Hackleman,  Former Hornist of The Canadian and Empire Brass 
and currently Principal Horn of the National Symphony in Washington, 
DC will perform Strauss Concerto No. 1 with the Illinois Symphony 
Orchestra, Friday, Nov. 14 @ 8pm in Illinois State University's 
Braden Auditorium.

Mr. Hackleman will present a Guest Artist Master Class on Saturday, Nov. 15,
11 am - 1 pm in Kemp Recital Hall, Centennial East Building.  See the 
attached notice.

Admission to the Saturday Master Class is Free and open to the public.

Tickets for Mr. Hackleman's, performance of Strauss Concerto No. 1 
with the Illinois Symphony Orchestra, Friday, Nov. 14 @ 8 pm in ISU's 
Braden Auditorium are available by contacting Braden Auditorium Box 
Office at Phone # 309-438-5444.  Student tickets are $10., RUSH 
tickets are available from 6-7 pm for $9.00.

For directions, parking, campus map and info., visit
 http://www.arts.ilstu.edu/music/
Illinois State University is located in Bloomington/Normal, IL and 
can be reached via Interstates 55, 74 and 39, Amtrak and 5 Airlines.

Please share this email with others who may be interested.
Please contact me if you have questions.
Joe Neisler

Dr. Joe W. Neisler
Professor of Horn
School of Music
Campus Box 5660
Illinois State University
Normal IL  61790-5660
Phone:  309-438-5063
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia

[Brian Baker]

Hello Kris,

My old horn teacher was Owen Jones who used to play 2nd horn in the
Queensland Symphony Orchestra. One of her teachers so I understand was
Philip Farkas. She gave lessons at the then, Queensland Music Conservatorium
and coached the horn sections on the Queensland Youth Orchestras 1,2&3.

I think she was living in Kenmore (outer suburb of Brisbane). I'm sorry I
can't help you out with any others. However, I'm sure that "Olli" can be a
great source of information in your quest.

Regards,

Brian (alias Koala Bear)
- Original Message -
From: "Kris Gaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia


> (3rd times a charm... I hope...)
>
>
>
> Although I am still in the midst of completing my B.Music/B.Teaching
degree
> I have just started researching what I hope will become the focus for my
> masters of music (musicology) thesis.
>
> The area that I am exploring is that of Female Horn Players in Australia,
> focussing on those who have played in the major professional orchestras,
> from the first to hold a seat in a major orchestra to the present.
>
> Ideally I hope to do this primarily as a historical view - for instance,
> looking at what it was like for female players back in the beginning as
> compaired to now.  Before there was blind auditioning were female players
> disadvantaged?  Who was the first female hornist to hold a chair in each
of
> the major orchestras - when was this etc.  However I desire to also
include
> shortish biographies on all these hornists.
>
> I should point out that I am not purely interested in those players that
> hold permanent positions in orchestras, I am also interested in
professional
> freelance hornists too.
>
> While thanks to the some what brilliance of the internet I have what I
> believe to be a rather recent list of all female hornists currently
playing
> in the major professional orchestras in Australia (both symphony and
> ballet/opera).  However I am finding it nearly impossible to come across
any
> information for past players in these orchestras.  While I am aware that
> this will involve hunting through the archives of each orchestra I was
> hoping that the hornlist might be able to help kickstart my quest.
>
> So these few questions I put forth to all of you
>
> 1. Are there any websites/books/theses out there that focus on either
female
> horn players in Australia, or female hornists in general (as info on
> Australian players might be contained therein).
> 2. Does anyone have any info on any female hornists past and/or present -
> even if it is simply her name and the orchestra, it would cut down my time
> rummaging around in the archives quite considerably.
> 3. And finally if by any chance you are a female hornist who has either
> previously played in or currently playing in any of the professional
> orchestras in Australia would it be possible to get in contact with you
> directly.
>
> Must go and hassle my horn teacher to see if she has any information on
> other players.  I shall leave grilling her on her professional playing
> history for another day.
>
>
> Kristy Garrick
>
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[Hornlist] Re: Tips

[James Potter]

Hey Liz, as a person who has played all the Planets in all
parts, the best thing to do, and it's said too much is
practice. If you even want too, memorise the horn parts for
the Jupiter, and use them as a warm up. Or try the horn
parts for Gavrokna Fanfare. It has a wonderful horn rip,
and if you can have 8 horns playing that part perfect, it
blows away the audience. I also have gotten insites of
playing a pedal c, then go up half steps but keep going
back to that pedal c until you can do 2 octives. then start
on the next step up, and repeat. It really works the chops
and preps them to play a while. There is also a horn rip in
the piece called, "I AM." It was written for a person who
played a baritone sax player who died in a bus accident.
Any horn players who have played it know it is an awe
insipring piece. And the horn piece is easy to learn. Thats
all for me.
James Potter

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[Hornlist] Orchestral parts on CD-ROM

[phirsch]

I thought that the following announcement forwarded from another list might
be of interest to those looking to own a basic library of (Public Domain)
horn parts (plus a few less than standard items). I have not seen the
product itself and am not posting this as any sort of endorsement, just a
FYI. I can't tell if the horn CD contains a full set of parts or just Horn
I; my guess, from looking at the other listings is that all parts are
included, but maybe not. Some PDF samples are already available through the
site www.orchmusiclibrary.com but it doesn't seem like the one for horn is
functional yet. My guess is that, if you have no trouble dealing with
traditional Kalmus Edition parts, you would probably be comfortable with
the kind of sheet music you can print out from these discs.

The web site lists forthcoming volumes, including one titled "Debussy,
Mahler and more" that might contain some more difficult to obtain material.

If anyone has any firsthand knowledge of this product, please share it with
the list.

Regards,

Peter Hirsch

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Volume 1 entitled "Beethoven, Schubert and more" contains the parts from 90
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in an 8 page 9" X 12" booklet and is priced at $19.95.  Following are the
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Re: AW: [Hornlist] tips again

[Clayton]

Clayton Whetmore, here:
Scott Bacon Dürkhorns wrote:
Herr Pizka,

I tried to have a look at the Beethoven, but nothing would correctly upload.
Is all in order with the link?
 

The only way I could find the Beethoven link was to click the Sitemap 
 link on his home page.  There you can 
find a Beethoven link just beneath all of his Family page names and a 
reference to Authenticity.

However, although it may have once been a .pdf file, you will get a 
warning that /Beetho.pdf can no longer be found on the server.  Do not 
despair.  You can still download in .doc format.  Unfortunately, the 
.htm link doesn't work, either, only showing empty icons of what was 
once meant to be.

That's OK!  It's nice to have such a treasure available.  Having to 
struggle, a bit, to find it, will just make it seem more valuable.
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[Hornlist] Stefan Dohr close-up (double post)

[Daniel Canarutto]

At a recent master class I took a close-up picture of Stefan Dohr. 
You may wish to see it, if you are interested in embouchure matters.

Go to http://www.corno.it
then click on MEMBERS
then click on Stefan DOHR
finally, click on the picture to see it enlarged.
--
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mathematical physicist & dedicated amateur hornist
http://www.dma.unifi.it/~canarutto/  (professional home page)
http://www.corno.it  (Il Club del Corno)
http://www.amadeusorchestra.org  (orchestra Amadeus - Firenze)
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Re: [Hornlist] Schmid Horn

[Jerryold99]

In a message dated 10/27/2003 7:58:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Anyone out there selling a second hand Schmid Triple?



Hi, Whoever you are,

There is an F/Bb/Eb Schmid triple on www.hornplayer.net
For $13,000.  

Regards,Jerry In Kansas City
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RE: [Hornlist] tips again

[Hans Pizka]

It is a pdf of 2,3 MB & takes a while.
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Subject: AW: [Hornlist] tips again

Herr Pizka,

I tried to have a look at the Beethoven, but nothing would correctly
upload.
Is all in order with the link?

Sincerely,

Scott H. Bacon
Sales, Marketing, and Service
Verkauf, Marketing, und Service
Specialist in French Horn
Spezialist für Waldhorn

Musikhaus Dürk
Steuerstraße 16a
55411 Bingen - Dromersheim
Germany

Telephone: 49 ((0)6725) 1507
Fax: 49 ((0)6725) 6307
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: www.DuerkHorns.de.

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von
Hans Pizka
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003 13:50
An: 'The Horn List'
Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] tips again

Hello Liz,

are you sure, you are asking about Beethoven Sonata op.17 ? There is no
chromatic scale as you described. And the highest note to play is the g2
(on top of the upper line of the staff - treble clef !).

Are you speaking "concert" or played on the horn or just notated
(written) ?

And, dear Liz, how come you will play first horn for Sorcerer & for the
Planets, if you have difficulties with a chromatic scale, which anyway
does not exist in this piece ?

If you describe a thing you are asking for help, you must describe it
exactly.

Ooops, yes, it is, as I assumed. You have difficulties ending the trill
together with the piano, right ? This is after the long chromatic run of
the piano from c in the left hand up to the trill, passing 6 groups of
1/16th sixtuplets.

Have a look in the piano score to find that the trill of the piano ends
with an "abschlag" ( two sixteenth or thirty seconds with the first note
just one step below the main trill note & the second little note the
same as the main trill note : sample: trill a - bnat. ending with g - a
 Before entering in the down beat g, perhaps. These "abschlag" notes are
usually written like grace notes but with out the strike-through.

How to meet there ? Well, the piano needs a bit more time for this very
rapid chromatic scale. So leave some more time for the pianist by
stretching the measure (it is at the end of the last movement), then
trill the next full measure, listening to the pianist very carefully &
exchanging a look each other to place the "abschlag notes" the same time
together, perhaps by attacking them separately.

Moral for you: if you ask somebody for help (and it is more pleasure to
offer help than to receive help), think twice before asking. Perhaps,
note down things before typing it in the mail. Ask exactly by pointing
to exact piece names, mouvements, measures. Express your question
clearly using our horn wise notation.

This will result in easier & faster response to your questions.

Good luck !

PS: You can find the first print of that Sonata on my Web Site - full
text. It is a PDF file of 2,3 MB, so it might take a while until you
will see the pictures.

www.pizka.de

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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Hornlist] tips

hi! im Liz
Im a high school freshman hornist, im not too bad or at least i dont
think i
am, but i'd like some tips on prepareing an audition pieceIm going
for
Northeast Districts in MA. as a freahman you can try out but you arnt
likely
to make it considering that its open to all of the rest of high school
age
studentsThe piece is Sonata in F major opus 17 by Beethoven, and, my

biggest difficulty, the chromatic scale goes from the c in the middle of
the
bass clef to the a above the treble clef.  any comments would be
welcome, im
also trying to learn some pieces for an orchestra that i play with such
as
the sorcerers apprentice, and the planets where i am first hornkinda
by
defaultthanx
-Liz

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[Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia

[Kris Gaz]

(3rd times a charm... I hope...)



Although I am still in the midst of completing my B.Music/B.Teaching degree 
I have just started researching what I hope will become the focus for my 
masters of music (musicology) thesis.

The area that I am exploring is that of Female Horn Players in Australia, 
focussing on those who have played in the major professional orchestras, 
from the first to hold a seat in a major orchestra to the present.

Ideally I hope to do this primarily as a historical view – for instance, 
looking at what it was like for female players back in the beginning as 
compaired to now.  Before there was blind auditioning were female players 
disadvantaged?  Who was the first female hornist to hold a chair in each of 
the major orchestras – when was this etc.  However I desire to also include 
shortish biographies on all these hornists.

I should point out that I am not purely interested in those players that 
hold permanent positions in orchestras, I am also interested in professional 
freelance hornists too.

While thanks to the some what brilliance of the internet I have what I 
believe to be a rather recent list of all female hornists currently playing 
in the major professional orchestras in Australia (both symphony and 
ballet/opera).  However I am finding it nearly impossible to come across any 
information for past players in these orchestras.  While I am aware that 
this will involve hunting through the archives of each orchestra I was 
hoping that the hornlist might be able to help kickstart my quest.

So these few questions I put forth to all of you

1.	Are there any websites/books/theses out there that focus on either female 
horn players in Australia, or female hornists in general (as info on 
Australian players might be contained therein).
2.	Does anyone have any info on any female hornists past and/or present – 
even if it is simply her name and the orchestra, it would cut down my time 
rummaging around in the archives quite considerably.
3.	And finally if by any chance you are a female hornist who has either 
previously played in or currently playing in any of the professional 
orchestras in Australia would it be possible to get in contact with you 
directly.

Must go and hassle my horn teacher to see if she has any information on 
other players.  I shall leave grilling her on her professional playing 
history for another day.

Kristy Garrick

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AW: [Hornlist] tips again

[Scott Bacon Dürkhorns]

Herr Pizka,

I tried to have a look at the Beethoven, but nothing would correctly upload.
Is all in order with the link?

Sincerely,

Scott H. Bacon
Sales, Marketing, and Service
Verkauf, Marketing, und Service
Specialist in French Horn
Spezialist für Waldhorn

Musikhaus Dürk
Steuerstraße 16a
55411 Bingen - Dromersheim
Germany

Telephone: 49 ((0)6725) 1507
Fax: 49 ((0)6725) 6307
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: www.DuerkHorns.de.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von
Hans Pizka
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003 13:50
An: 'The Horn List'
Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] tips again

Hello Liz,

are you sure, you are asking about Beethoven Sonata op.17 ? There is no
chromatic scale as you described. And the highest note to play is the g2
(on top of the upper line of the staff - treble clef !).

Are you speaking "concert" or played on the horn or just notated
(written) ?

And, dear Liz, how come you will play first horn for Sorcerer & for the
Planets, if you have difficulties with a chromatic scale, which anyway
does not exist in this piece ?

If you describe a thing you are asking for help, you must describe it
exactly.

Ooops, yes, it is, as I assumed. You have difficulties ending the trill
together with the piano, right ? This is after the long chromatic run of
the piano from c in the left hand up to the trill, passing 6 groups of
1/16th sixtuplets.

Have a look in the piano score to find that the trill of the piano ends
with an "abschlag" ( two sixteenth or thirty seconds with the first note
just one step below the main trill note & the second little note the
same as the main trill note : sample: trill a - bnat. ending with g - a
 Before entering in the down beat g, perhaps. These "abschlag" notes are
usually written like grace notes but with out the strike-through.

How to meet there ? Well, the piano needs a bit more time for this very
rapid chromatic scale. So leave some more time for the pianist by
stretching the measure (it is at the end of the last movement), then
trill the next full measure, listening to the pianist very carefully &
exchanging a look each other to place the "abschlag notes" the same time
together, perhaps by attacking them separately.

Moral for you: if you ask somebody for help (and it is more pleasure to
offer help than to receive help), think twice before asking. Perhaps,
note down things before typing it in the mail. Ask exactly by pointing
to exact piece names, mouvements, measures. Express your question
clearly using our horn wise notation.

This will result in easier & faster response to your questions.

Good luck !

PS: You can find the first print of that Sonata on my Web Site - full
text. It is a PDF file of 2,3 MB, so it might take a while until you
will see the pictures.

www.pizka.de

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Elizabeth Kane
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Hornlist] tips

hi! im Liz
Im a high school freshman hornist, im not too bad or at least i dont
think i
am, but i'd like some tips on prepareing an audition pieceIm going
for
Northeast Districts in MA. as a freahman you can try out but you arnt
likely
to make it considering that its open to all of the rest of high school
age
studentsThe piece is Sonata in F major opus 17 by Beethoven, and, my

biggest difficulty, the chromatic scale goes from the c in the middle of
the
bass clef to the a above the treble clef.  any comments would be
welcome, im
also trying to learn some pieces for an orchestra that i play with such
as
the sorcerers apprentice, and the planets where i am first hornkinda
by
defaultthanx
-Liz

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Re: [Hornlist] tips

[Walter Lewis]

Hi Liz,

The best tip I can offer concerning Beethoven's Sonata... If you don't have 
one, seek out a reputable horn teacher for private lessons. I know that 
that does not probably help you in the short term with the Beethoven for 
your audition, but for the future...

Sounds as if you have some talent towards the horn, but as most of us on 
this list when we were high school freshmen, need a good teacher. A good 
teacher using good etude methods such as Kopprasch (just ask Prof. I. M. 
Gestopftmitscheist about how great Kopprasch is! He sure will let you know 
his valued opinion!) will help you improve technical skills. Kopprasch is 
just one example of etude methods that will help you improve your playing 
skills greatly. A good teacher will be able to analyze your playing and 
work with you from that point.

Since you posted that you live in MA, maybe some of our other colleagues on 
this forum from the Northeast can offer opinions as to where and or to whom 
to seek out for private instruction.

Good luck with your audition.

Walt Lewis
Lake St. Clair Symphony Orchestra, Michigan
Grosse Pointe Symphony Orchestra, Michigan
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hi! im Liz
Im a high school freshman hornist, im not too bad or at least i dont think 
i am, but i'd like some tips on prepareing an audition pieceIm going 
for Northeast Districts in MA. as a freahman you can try out but you arnt 
likely to make it considering that its open to all of the rest of high 
school age studentsThe piece is Sonata in F major opus 17 by 
Beethoven, and, my biggest difficulty, the chromatic scale goes from the c 
in the middle of the bass clef to the a above the treble clef.  any 
comments would be welcome, im also trying to learn some pieces for an 
orchestra that i play with such as the sorcerers apprentice, and the 
planets where i am first hornkinda by defaultthanx
-Liz

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RE: [Hornlist] tips again

[Hans Pizka]

Hello Liz,

are you sure, you are asking about Beethoven Sonata op.17 ? There is no
chromatic scale as you described. And the highest note to play is the g2
(on top of the upper line of the staff - treble clef !).

Are you speaking "concert" or played on the horn or just notated
(written) ?

And, dear Liz, how come you will play first horn for Sorcerer & for the
Planets, if you have difficulties with a chromatic scale, which anyway
does not exist in this piece ?

If you describe a thing you are asking for help, you must describe it
exactly.

Ooops, yes, it is, as I assumed. You have difficulties ending the trill
together with the piano, right ? This is after the long chromatic run of
the piano from c in the left hand up to the trill, passing 6 groups of
1/16th sixtuplets.

Have a look in the piano score to find that the trill of the piano ends
with an "abschlag" ( two sixteenth or thirty seconds with the first note
just one step below the main trill note & the second little note the
same as the main trill note : sample: trill a - bnat. ending with g - a
 Before entering in the down beat g, perhaps. These "abschlag" notes are
usually written like grace notes but with out the strike-through.

How to meet there ? Well, the piano needs a bit more time for this very
rapid chromatic scale. So leave some more time for the pianist by
stretching the measure (it is at the end of the last movement), then
trill the next full measure, listening to the pianist very carefully &
exchanging a look each other to place the "abschlag notes" the same time
together, perhaps by attacking them separately.

Moral for you: if you ask somebody for help (and it is more pleasure to
offer help than to receive help), think twice before asking. Perhaps,
note down things before typing it in the mail. Ask exactly by pointing
to exact piece names, mouvements, measures. Express your question
clearly using our horn wise notation.

This will result in easier & faster response to your questions.

Good luck !

PS: You can find the first print of that Sonata on my Web Site - full
text. It is a PDF file of 2,3 MB, so it might take a while until you
will see the pictures.

www.pizka.de

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Elizabeth Kane
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Hornlist] tips

hi! im Liz
Im a high school freshman hornist, im not too bad or at least i dont
think i 
am, but i'd like some tips on prepareing an audition pieceIm going
for 
Northeast Districts in MA. as a freahman you can try out but you arnt
likely 
to make it considering that its open to all of the rest of high school
age 
studentsThe piece is Sonata in F major opus 17 by Beethoven, and, my

biggest difficulty, the chromatic scale goes from the c in the middle of
the 
bass clef to the a above the treble clef.  any comments would be
welcome, im 
also trying to learn some pieces for an orchestra that i play with such
as 
the sorcerers apprentice, and the planets where i am first hornkinda
by 
defaultthanx
-Liz

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[Hornlist] Female Horn Players In Australia

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[Jen Gilbert Gesinski]

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--- Tim work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello everyone
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> I am new to the list
> 
> does anyone know where I can find a web site that gives info
> regarding 
> Holton Horns? I would like to research the different models as I have
> seen 
> one for sale but the owner can't tell me much about it
> 
> many thanks
> 
> Tim
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[Hornlist] (no subject)

[Tim work]

hello everyone

I am new to the list

does anyone know where I can find a web site that gives info regarding 
Holton Horns? I would like to research the different models as I have seen 
one for sale but the owner can't tell me much about it

many thanks

Tim

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