[Hornlist] presentation and a question

2004-02-21 Thread Aesma Daeva
Hello guys!
My name is Emiliano and I'm an italian french horn amateur.

The question is: anyone knows what happened to Tom Greere, the owner of
Moosewood, the french
horn mouthpiece maker (www.hornmouthpiece.com)?

From a lot of time he does not answer to my emails and telephone calls, and
I placed an order for a mouthpiece that never arrived.

Thanks.

Emiliano
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Nenien mi povos iri por atingi vin
Sed eble tial mi
Vin amas

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Re: [Hornlist] presentation and a question

2004-02-21 Thread SANDRA CLARK
http://www.hornmouthpiece.com/index.html

There you go - that should work for you - I copied it from his home page a moment ago.

Sandra

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Subject: [Hornlist] presentation and a question

Hello guys!
My name is Emiliano and I'm an italian french horn amateur.

The question is: anyone knows what happened to Tom Greere, the owner of
Moosewood, the french
horn mouthpiece maker (www.hornmouthpiece.com)?

From a lot of time he does not answer to my emails and telephone calls, and
I placed an order for a mouthpiece that never arrived.

Thanks.

Emiliano
--
Nenien mi povos iri por atingi vin
Sed eble tial mi
Vin amas

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[Hornlist] 3 Romances - Faure

2004-02-21 Thread ERHWoodard
I have on backorder from Robert King the Three Romances Without Words (by 
Gabriel Faure, transcribed by Daniel Bourge) and am wondering if, while I'm 
waiting for it to arrive, someone might be willing to provide me with a copy of 
the horn part (via email or snail mail).  Please contact me off list if you can 
help me out.

Thank you.

Ellen Woodard
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Ann Arbor, MI
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Re: [Hornlist] presentation and a question

2004-02-21 Thread Aesma Daeva
Try to be patient.  He not only makes mouthpieces, but also plays
professionally, so sometimes he's away, playing like the rest of us.

Thanks, the important is that he's right.

Emiliano

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[Hornlist] Horn measles

2004-02-21 Thread Jim Thompson
Please excuse my naivety. I've had lacquered and 'unlaquered by wear' horns
but I've never owned a horn that has been 'delacquered' or was unlacquered
from onset. I'm 'test driving' a used gold brass Finke horn that I have to
make a 'buy or not buy' decision on in the next week or so. It's playability
and it's fit for me at the  moment 'works'.  To get an opinion from my
nearest repairman I have to drive over 100 miles. Because the horn isn't
mine yet I can't really apply solutions to it's surface or 'pick' at it,
though I have picked at it a bit and nothing 'flakes off'.  So with that in
mind I need some help.  The horn is 'unlacquered' and has 'brown spots' on
it of an unusual character, in unusual places that are a bit hard to
describe.  These brown spots or blotches are also on the nickel plating on
the slides. They're also on the undersides of the keys. The horn is only 6
years old. Is some of the nickel plating corroding ? The brown spots on the
bottom of the keys and key arms appear as if something maybe was spilled on
it or? But it doesn't 'rub' off.   Experience with this would help, I'm just
at a loss as to what to think, but I don't think this is a good situation
nor do I think I will simply be able to apply a little elbow grease with a
magical solution and a chamois and have this all disappear.  I might be able
to get a digital pic online here to help the visual.  My digital camera
unfortunately at the moment is at my office but I'll have it home before the
weekend is out and get some pics out if that will HELP..thanks, Jim

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Re: [Hornlist] Straight-Ahead E-Flat Alto Horn

2004-02-21 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 2/20/2004 3:52:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 
 In Austria  in Bavaria it is called #Scheisshaken# (sheet hook). But
 it comes in the Mellofone form (very unusual here) or in the
 Es-alto-horn form or as little upright basset. Anyway, the sound is
 special ugly special when played with the alto (alto 
 trombone like)
 mouthpiece.

Over here, the mellophone form is often referred to as 'snitweasel', certainly by me.  
  I made a solo alto by taking a small upright alto and rotating the valve cluster.  
It was originally in high pitch, but I spliced in a length of French horn leadpipe and 
dropped it to modern pitch  I agree on the sound of the thing in any form.  I always 
play it with a horn mouthpiece.  My son plays it with a cup mouthpiece, and actually 
gets a decent tone.  He says the secret is to convince yourself beforehand that it 
does have a beautiful sound.  Then you can find the sound in the instrument.  I'm sure 
you do that naturally with a French horn.  I think of it as getting to know the inside 
of a horn.  My son plays all the brasses, so he is extraordinarily good at dialing in 
a strange instrument.  However, an alto horn with a cup mouthpiece stretches his 
ability to produce a beautiful sound about as far as it stretches my ability to hear a 
beautiful sound.  I can live with it in an antique brass group, but I don't have high 
expectations to hearing it any better.

I recently obtained an upright alto by the Boston Musical Instrument Mfgy., from about 
1875.  Based on their reputation and my own experience, this horn should sound about 
as good as any American alto ever will.  But first, I have to reconstruct the second 
valve, and it's not high on my priority list.  I'm trying to collect a set of good 
working instruments from the Civil War period.  I have a rotary Bb cornet and a rotary 
saxhorn (Eb bass), but I still need a euphonium and rotary Eb cornet. 
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn measles

2004-02-21 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
Jim,

Of course, it's impossible to say for sure without seeing it, but these spots 
are likely tarnish of the variety that occurs when a horn is stripped.  They 
often have a gold/brown corona around them.  The slides are not nickel 
plated.  They are nickel-silver, an alloy of nickel and copper, and they are quite 
susceptible to such tarnish during the stripping process, depending on the 
chemical used to strip the horn.  The keys are likely nickel and they may also 
tarnish from the stripping process.

If it is tarnish, then using a fine polishing compound, such as Simichrome, 
will remove most of the brownish color.  Ask the owner if the horn was 
stripped, and if the brown spots appeared after stripping.  If yes, then ask if you 
can polish one of the spots with a fine compound to see if it will go away.  Be 
sure to remove all the polishing compound when you're done.  If it's tarnish, 
then I wouldn't worry about it too much.  Just keep it polished.  Unlacquered 
horns will tarnish and you can't do a thing about it other than to polish it 
regularly.  

Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn measles

2004-02-21 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 2/21/2004 3:01:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Please excuse my naivety. I've had lacquered and 'unlaquered by wear' horns
 but I've never owned a horn that has been 'delacquered' or 
 was unlacquered
 from onset.

If the horn is unlacquered, the spots might be from some water that was allowed to dry 
onto the horn.  The impurities in the water are left on the surface, and effects how 
normal tarnishing proceeds.  There is also the possibility that the spots come from a 
more caustic liquid drying on the horn, such as solder flux.

Unless the spots are etched into the brass so you can feel them with a fingernail, 
there should be no problem.  A little Brasso should remove them.  If the going is real 
tough, apply the Brasso with a nylon abrasive pad (Scotchbrite) equal to  steel 
wool.  At Home Depot, it's usually the white pads.  If its still persists, go to the 
next coarser grade until you get it.  Then work your way back through the finer ones 
to remove the scratches left by the previous pad.  If you want to bring the brass to a 
really high polish, use the Brasso on a soft cloth.  Personally, I like the finish 
left by the white pad, and it makes polishing go so fast, and I can quickly touch up 
spots anytime.

If you're going to do a thorough polish of the whole horn, take a piece of plywood 
larger than the bell, and get some mirror mounting cleats at home depot.  fasten the 
bell rim bead to the plywood with the cleats, and you can put it in a vise or clamp it 
to a rail.  With the horn held like that, you can do the polishing with long, thin 
strips of cloth.  Put the strip all the way around the tubing, and work it with both 
hands.  You'll probably find you can rotate the horn at the bell so you can get at 
everything.  Use a thin stick to thread the cloth all the possible places.  Once 
you've done it this way, you'll kick yourself for how much time you've wasted in the 
past by not having the board.
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Re: [Hornlist] Straight-Ahead E-Flat Alto Horn

2004-02-21 Thread Alan Cole
Cool !

If you have digital photos on the web, I'd like to have the URLs.

-AC.
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At 05:12 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Over here, the mellophone form is often referred to as 'snitweasel', 
certainly by me.I made a solo alto by taking a small upright alto and 
rotating the valve cluster.  It was originally in high pitch, but I 
spliced in a length of French horn leadpipe and dropped it to modern 
pitch  I agree on the sound of the thing in any form.  I always play it 
with a horn mouthpiece.  My son plays it with a cup mouthpiece, and 
actually gets a decent tone.  He says the secret is to convince yourself 
beforehand that it does have a beautiful sound.  Then you can find the 
sound in the instrument.  I'm sure you do that naturally with a French 
horn.  I think of it as getting to know the inside of a horn.  My son 
plays all the brasses, so he is extraordinarily good at dialing in a 
strange instrument.  However, an alto horn with a cup mouthpiece stretches 
his ability to produce a beautiful sound about as far as it stretches my 
ability to hear a beautiful sound.  I can live with it in an antique brass 
group, but I don't have high expectations to hearing it any better.

I recently obtained an upright alto by the Boston Musical Instrument 
Mfgy., from about 1875.  Based on their reputation and my own experience, 
this horn should sound about as good as any American alto ever will.  But 
first, I have to reconstruct the second valve, and it's not high on my 
priority list.  I'm trying to collect a set of good working instruments 
from the Civil War period.  I have a rotary Bb cornet and a rotary saxhorn 
(Eb bass), but I still need a euphonium and rotary Eb cornet.


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