[Hornlist] More mouthpieces

2004-12-20 Thread Karl W. Feinauer
What are some good mouthpieces to buy? Currently, I use a Bach 7, which is
good for my tone, but I am starting to think of purchasing a new mouthpiece,
maybe something strong in the upper register.

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[Hornlist] Mouthpiece Needed

2004-12-20 Thread Wilbert Kimple

Anyone out there have an older MY 15 mouthpiece for
sale?  Need one immediately.  The older ones had a
slightly smaller shaft, which I need for one of my
European horns.  The current ones don't fit quite
right.

Thanks.

Wilbert in SC

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Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Mansur
On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
Am I OK to use the Holton?  Is it some special purpose mouthpiece or 
is it
OK for me at this early stage of my development?


Generally, a little larger mouthpiece will yield a little fatter tone 
on a horn.  A small mouthpiece yield a bit too much Flutiness, I'll 
call it.  The Farkas MDC is nearer the original Farkas style 
mouthpiece.  I do not care for the Conn mouthpiece that comes with an 
8D.  It seems to me to be intended for weak student embouchures and 
does not have the capacity to make the horn sound full and rich.  
That's my two cents worth on the subject.  I use an old Geyer pattern 
he made for me in 1948.  Now, after having that one stolen, I use 
copies of that one rather than the original.

Paul Mansur
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RE: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Freides
Is this the mouthpiece you're talking about?

http://1800usaband.com/htmls/itementryview.asp?itementryid=6121

I'd be happy to give that one a try at some point in the future.  I tend, as
I mentioned, to a flutie sort of sound although that is gradually
diminishing as time goes by.

Question - do many of you who play with a wet embouchure prefer gold-plated
mouthpieces?  They're awfully expensive compared to the silver-plated
versions of the same thing.  Dillon offers many mouthpieces in either finish
- I wonder if they do the plating in-house...

-S- 

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On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Steve Freides wrote:


 Am I OK to use the Holton?  Is it some special purpose mouthpiece or 
 is it OK for me at this early stage of my development?


Generally, a little larger mouthpiece will yield a little fatter tone 
on a horn.  A small mouthpiece yield a bit too much Flutiness, I'll 
call it.  The Farkas MDC is nearer the original Farkas style 
mouthpiece.  I do not care for the Conn mouthpiece that comes with an 
8D.  It seems to me to be intended for weak student embouchures and 
does not have the capacity to make the horn sound full and rich.  
That's my two cents worth on the subject.  I use an old Geyer pattern 
he made for me in 1948.  Now, after having that one stolen, I use 
copies of that one rather than the original.

Paul Mansur

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RE: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?

2004-12-20 Thread Chris Tedesco
I would guess that most people prefer gold plated rims with a wet embouchure,
but I actually very much prefer silver.  I have soft and luxurious lips that
when coupled with a gold rim gives me a playing surface so slick that I can
hardly set my embouchure.  I originally ordered my mouthpiece with a gold rim
and had the hardest time with it, so I exchanged for silver.  

Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this the mouthpiece you're talking about?
 
 http://1800usaband.com/htmls/itementryview.asp?itementryid=6121
 
 I'd be happy to give that one a try at some point in the future.  I tend, as
 I mentioned, to a flutie sort of sound although that is gradually
 diminishing as time goes by.
 
 Question - do many of you who play with a wet embouchure prefer gold-plated
 mouthpieces?  They're awfully expensive compared to the silver-plated
 versions of the same thing.  Dillon offers many mouthpieces in either finish
 - I wonder if they do the plating in-house...
 
 -S- 
 
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 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?
 
 
 On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
 
 
  Am I OK to use the Holton?  Is it some special purpose mouthpiece or 
  is it OK for me at this early stage of my development?
 
 
 Generally, a little larger mouthpiece will yield a little fatter tone 
 on a horn.  A small mouthpiece yield a bit too much Flutiness, I'll 
 call it.  The Farkas MDC is nearer the original Farkas style 
 mouthpiece.  I do not care for the Conn mouthpiece that comes with an 
 8D.  It seems to me to be intended for weak student embouchures and 
 does not have the capacity to make the horn sound full and rich.  
 That's my two cents worth on the subject.  I use an old Geyer pattern 
 he made for me in 1948.  Now, after having that one stolen, I use 
 copies of that one rather than the original.
 
 Paul Mansur
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?

2004-12-20 Thread LOTP
Dillon's sends mouthpieces out for plating.

Paul

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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?


 I would guess that most people prefer gold plated rims with a wet
embouchure,
 but I actually very much prefer silver.  I have soft and luxurious lips
that
 when coupled with a gold rim gives me a playing surface so slick that I
can
 hardly set my embouchure.  I originally ordered my mouthpiece with a gold
rim
 and had the hardest time with it, so I exchanged for silver.

 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is this the mouthpiece you're talking about?
 
  http://1800usaband.com/htmls/itementryview.asp?itementryid=6121
 
  I'd be happy to give that one a try at some point in the future.  I
tend, as
  I mentioned, to a flutie sort of sound although that is gradually
  diminishing as time goes by.
 
  Question - do many of you who play with a wet embouchure prefer
gold-plated
  mouthpieces?  They're awfully expensive compared to the silver-plated
  versions of the same thing.  Dillon offers many mouthpieces in either
finish
  - I wonder if they do the plating in-house...
 
  -S-
 
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  Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult
beginner?
 
 
  On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
 
  
   Am I OK to use the Holton?  Is it some special purpose mouthpiece or
   is it OK for me at this early stage of my development?
  
  
  Generally, a little larger mouthpiece will yield a little fatter tone
  on a horn.  A small mouthpiece yield a bit too much Flutiness, I'll
  call it.  The Farkas MDC is nearer the original Farkas style
  mouthpiece.  I do not care for the Conn mouthpiece that comes with an
  8D.  It seems to me to be intended for weak student embouchures and
  does not have the capacity to make the horn sound full and rich.
  That's my two cents worth on the subject.  I use an old Geyer pattern
  he made for me in 1948.  Now, after having that one stolen, I use
  copies of that one rather than the original.
 
  Paul Mansur
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult beginner?

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Mansur
Yes.   The gold plated rim is not any particular advantage unless you  
are allergic to silver.  some folk are.  They are a little more  
slippery on the lip than silver.  I don't use a wet embouchure.   
Current prices are quite low from Giardinelli.com.

Paul Mansur
On Monday, December 20, 2004, at 02:06 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
Is this the mouthpiece you're talking about?
http://1800usaband.com/htmls/itementryview.asp?itementryid=6121
I'd be happy to give that one a try at some point in the future.  I  
tend, as
I mentioned, to a flutie sort of sound although that is gradually
diminishing as time goes by.

Question - do many of you who play with a wet embouchure prefer  
gold-plated
mouthpieces?  They're awfully expensive compared to the silver-plated
versions of the same thing.  Dillon offers many mouthpieces in either  
finish
- I wonder if they do the plating in-house...

-S-
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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece - OK for adult  
beginner?

On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
Am I OK to use the Holton?  Is it some special purpose mouthpiece or
is it OK for me at this early stage of my development?

Generally, a little larger mouthpiece will yield a little fatter tone
on a horn.  A small mouthpiece yield a bit too much Flutiness, I'll
call it.  The Farkas MDC is nearer the original Farkas style
mouthpiece.  I do not care for the Conn mouthpiece that comes with an
8D.  It seems to me to be intended for weak student embouchures and
does not have the capacity to make the horn sound full and rich.
That's my two cents worth on the subject.  I use an old Geyer pattern
he made for me in 1948.  Now, after having that one stolen, I use
copies of that one rather than the original.
Paul Mansur
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Re: [Hornlist] More mouthpieces

2004-12-20 Thread Herbert Foster
That's a very individual thing and depends on your mouth and lip structure. If
you ask anyone, it should be your teacher. I myself find that that a Vincent
Bach 3 gives me a better low range AND better high range. Go figure.

Herb Foster
--- Karl W. Feinauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What are some good mouthpieces to buy? Currently, I use a Bach 7, which is
 good for my tone, but I am starting to think of purchasing a new mouthpiece,
 maybe something strong in the upper register.
 
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[Hornlist] 2005 Southeast Horn Workshop

2004-12-20 Thread Greg Campbell
I am pleased to announce that online registration for the 2005 Southeast
Horn Workshop has begun.
The 2005 Southeast Horn Workshop will take place February 25-27, 2005 at
the North Carolina School of the Arts in beautiful Winston-Salem, North
Carolina. Featured artists will include renowned soloist and chamber
musician David Jolley, Stefan Jezierski of the Berlin Philharmonic,
Pittsburgh Symphony principal William Caballero, and Buffalo
Philharmonic principal Jacek Muzyk.
There will be many fine exhibitors attending, competitions for students,
lectures, recitals, and lots of plain-ol' horn-playing fun.
Registration for the whole weekend is only $70 if you register by
January 22. Early registration may be completed online or by mail.
For more information, visit our web site:
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RE: [Hornlist] More mouthpieces

2004-12-20 Thread hans
There is no mouthpiece, which is strong in the high register. The
player must do it.

Well, admitted, there are some tiny spucknapf mouthpieces with a very
tight bore. You can get the stratospheres with them, but how about the
tone ? It is mere squeaking nothing else. 

A bore of 5 mms or just below suits very well for high  low  middle,
as it has just the necessary resistance. If the hole is bigger the sound
gets undistinguished, if the hole is narrower, the sound starts to
squeak and the resistance increases. With a certain resistance, e.g. as
with my mouthpieces, the entrance in ppp from nowhere is possible.
Narrower bore mpieces start to blop or to blair.

Visit my mouthpiece page:  www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm  and/or my pages
about my horns
www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm or www.pizka.de/MySiegfriedHorn.htm


Have three of them in stock now.  I received the newest few days ago 
gave it a test run during La Boheme yesterday night, - an opera, where
one has to play very delicate -, well, not a surprise, the horn sounds
excellent.

Mouthpieces are in stock, silver plated or gold plated.

Merry Christmas  Happy New Year to everybody here on the list. May we
get peace for those countries tortured by civil war or other atrocities.
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What are some good mouthpieces to buy? Currently, I use a Bach 7, which
is
good for my tone, but I am starting to think of purchasing a new
mouthpiece,
maybe something strong in the upper register.

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[Hornlist] Bernstein s: West Side Story

2004-12-20 Thread G.M.J. Otten
Hi,

In a couple of weeks I am playing an arrangement for Wind Band of
Orchestral Suite of Bernsteins West Side Story. From Measure 7 or 8 he
writes an number of measures muted. But there is only a little time to get
the mute in. I wonder: Did Berntein really want to have a muted horn or did
he mean a stopped horn ? In my opinion stopping would have some technical
but also some muscial advantages. It is much easier and faster to switch to
stopped horn and it blends better with the muted trumpets who are using cup
mutes. In the rest of the piece only stopped horn is prescribed.

Please your opinion.

Regards,

Ger Otten





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[Hornlist] Re:Double Concerto

2004-12-20 Thread Richard V. West
Hi Paul:

Look up the Concerto for Two Horns by Francesco Barsanti (1690-1772). A
little later than the Vivaldi pieces, much more of a Handelian flavor. The
music should be available; I played it many years ago with a college
orchestra. It was also recorded (on LP) at least once, as far as I know.

Richard in Seattle

On December 18, Paul Rincon wrote:

 My friend and I are looking to play a double concerto for an end of the
year
 recital, and we're currently looking for some suggestions.


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