RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
This is all expressed very politely. But one question: Isn´t playing music a group task, where everybody must be able to distinguish many acoustical "sensations" including localisating & pointing sounds, which is NOT possible which a mono-hearing ability ? A partly deaf person might become a great "technician" on the musical instrument but lacking essential abilities to create real sound, projecting sound, fill a hall even with his pianissimo carrying sound. He as monaural cannot feel the acoustical wideness or tightness of a hall, but he could be great just playing for himself as fun. This is not an opinion, it is a fact, sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:31 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear Hi, Whether or not it is beneficial is really up to him, isn't it? I think that is something your student will have to decide for himself. Since you have hearing in both your ears, it's not possible for you to hear what he hears (or doesn't hear), but as any good teacher should, you can guide him and his sound based on what you hear. Your student will integrate the input from the Silent Brass and from you in a way that will benefit you both; he'll be a better player, and you will have the satisfaction of helping a student to play with the most dreadful of challenges for a musician. How one gets the sound isn't nearly as important as how it sounds. Think of it like Geordie's VISOR in Star Trek. Who is that rather accomplished and famous percussionist that is nearly, if not totally deaf? Concentrate on sound, Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Major Serious Oddball Horn...
These helical horns were never used for "classical" hunting horn groups in Germany; some very new groups might have added it for the bass, but stylistically bad. I think, some salvation army bands use it. Anyway, this instrument is a hybrid instrument & not old as the seller says. These rather primitive instruments were mad mid 20th century. I have a valved exemplar also. It is in E-flat. On day I used it for a Rhinegold beginning in a rehearsal. We had unbelievable fun - until Wolfgang Sawallisch noticed that instrument, laughter again & I returned to use my regular horn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Bjerre Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:55 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Major Serious Oddball Horn... > From: Alan Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ...that looks like it would be dangerous if it had valves. Check out... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16215 &item=3781 > 756915&r > d=1 The one shown is used in hunting horn choirs as known in France and Belgium, maybe also in Germany. I happen to have a valved sample made by Kühnl & Hoyer in my collection. It actually is nothing but a valved bass trombone in Eb wrapped as a helicon. The circle is so small, that I barely can get my right hand close enough to my body to make the fingers reach the piston valves. Actually it is easier for me to play this instrument with my left hand. Klaus ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn in Ab in Balfe
Hello Lawrence, As Balfe composed "the Maid of Artois" before 1843 & as he studied with Rossini, the former La-bemol (A-flat) would be alto & not basso, surely, typical for the Rossini-time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:28 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Horn in Ab in Balfe Hans and list, I am playing a performance of "The Maid of Artois" by Balfe. The horn parts have been transcribed for horn in F. There is one item which was apparently horn in Ab in the original and has been transcribed as horn in Ab alto. Is this likely to be correct or should it be Ab basso? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
She's not that great IMHO :), but Evelyn Glennie is her name. Chris --- G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Whether or not it is beneficial is really up to him, > isn't it? I think that is something your student will > have to decide for himself. Since you have hearing in > both your ears, it's not possible for you to hear what > he hears (or doesn't hear), but as any good teacher > should, you can guide him and his sound based on what > you hear. Your student will integrate the input from > the Silent Brass and from you in a way that will > benefit you both; he'll be a better player, and you > will have the satisfaction of helping a student to > play with the most dreadful of challenges for a > musician. How one gets the sound isn't nearly as > important as how it sounds. Think of it like Geordie's > VISOR in Star Trek. > > Who is that rather accomplished and famous > percussionist that is nearly, if not totally deaf? > > Concentrate on sound, > > Gary > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
--- Linda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The percussionist is Evelyn Glennie > http://www.evelyn.co.uk/ > > >Who is that rather accomplished and famous > >percussionist that is nearly, if not totally deaf? > > >Concentrate on sound, > > >Gary > Yep, that's right. Thanks. Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
The percussionist is Evelyn Glennie http://www.evelyn.co.uk/ >Who is that rather accomplished and famous >percussionist that is nearly, if not totally deaf? >Concentrate on sound, >Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lacornista%40mindspring.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
Hi, Whether or not it is beneficial is really up to him, isn't it? I think that is something your student will have to decide for himself. Since you have hearing in both your ears, it's not possible for you to hear what he hears (or doesn't hear), but as any good teacher should, you can guide him and his sound based on what you hear. Your student will integrate the input from the Silent Brass and from you in a way that will benefit you both; he'll be a better player, and you will have the satisfaction of helping a student to play with the most dreadful of challenges for a musician. How one gets the sound isn't nearly as important as how it sounds. Think of it like Geordie's VISOR in Star Trek. Who is that rather accomplished and famous percussionist that is nearly, if not totally deaf? Concentrate on sound, Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
Sounds to me like this person is a good candidate for a custom horn and he can learn to play it backwards - I can't think of any classical greats who've done this but example about in the pop guitar world. Jimi Hendrix and Paul McCartney both play their guitars backwards, i.e., fingering the neck with the right hand. -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of Rory McDaniel > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:56 PM > To: Carlberg Jones; horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear > > The idea was to try to use the SB w/ an earbud or some type > of small speaker placed near the ear so he could hear himself > better, much as performers may use a monitor. He says it can > be challenging at times to hear exactly how he sounds. While > it sounds appealling to me as a techie, I'm not sure that it > would be truly beneficial. For that reason, I seek the > opinions of others. > > > Carlberg Jones wrote: > > >Hi, Rory - > > > >I don't see that being deaf in one ear would have anything > to do with > >using SB or any other headphone. > > > >Did I miss something? > > > >Regards, Carlberg > > > >Carlberg Jones > >Guanajuato, Gto. > >MEXICO > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
The idea was to try to use the SB w/ an earbud or some type of small speaker placed near the ear so he could hear himself better, much as performers may use a monitor. He says it can be challenging at times to hear exactly how he sounds. While it sounds appealling to me as a techie, I'm not sure that it would be truly beneficial. For that reason, I seek the opinions of others. Carlberg Jones wrote: Hi, Rory - I don't see that being deaf in one ear would have anything to do with using SB or any other headphone. Did I miss something? Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Deaf in Right Ear
I teach applied horn as an adjunct instructor at a small college in South Carolina. One of my students is a freshman music major who is deaf in his right ear. Today, he asked me about hooking up a clip on pickup to a Yamaha Silent Brass unit and putting an earpiece in his left ear. While it's a terribly interesting idea, I'm not convinced it's a great idea. I'm curious to know your thoughts and opinions on this one. Thanks, Rory McDaniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Major Serious Oddball Horn...
> From: Alan Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ...that looks like it would be dangerous if it had valves. Check out... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16215&item=3781756915&r > d=1 The one shown is used in hunting horn choirs as known in France and Belgium, maybe also in Germany. I happen to have a valved sample made by Kühnl & Hoyer in my collection. It actually is nothing but a valved bass trombone in Eb wrapped as a helicon. The circle is so small, that I barely can get my right hand close enough to my body to make the fingers reach the piston valves. Actually it is easier for me to play this instrument with my left hand. Klaus ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Major Serious Oddball Horn...
...that looks like it would be dangerous if it had valves. Check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16215&item=3781756915&rd=1 -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn in Ab in Balfe
Hans and list, I am playing a performance of "The Maid of Artois" by Balfe. The horn parts have been transcribed for horn in F. There is one item which was apparently horn in Ab in the original and has been transcribed as horn in Ab alto. Is this likely to be correct or should it be Ab basso? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 26, Issue 9
On Wednesday, February 9, 2005, at 01:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leonard: The Paxman mouthpieces are solid nickel - The Halstead Chiddel cups too !! Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bad Habits Checklist
Does anyone happen to have a copy of a checklist that I can do periodically on any bad habits that might creep into my playing? This can be anything form pressure to posture. Thanks. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Tcherepnin Six Pieces (John Schreckengost)
> > > > Sorry for the double posting. Does anyone know of a recording currently > available of the Tcherepnin Six Pieces for Horn Quartet or of the Bach/Shaw > Fugue in c minor for horn quartet? I can't find any on amazon.com or > tower.com. The best I could do was an album called Born for Horn recorded by > the Horn ensemble of the Mozarteum Hohchule (looks wrong to me, but it is > the way it is spelled on amazon.com) that is not in any of their retailer's > stocks. It has a recording of the Tcherepnin. > > John Schreckengost > Chicago, IL > Check with Lowell Shaw at the Hornists' Nest http://home.att.net/~hornistsnest/ The Bach C Minor Fugue was recorded on LP "The Hornists' Nest, from Fripperies back to Bach" still available for $7! Jay Hilfiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Gallay Opus 34
By deductive reasoning, I believe Opus 34 is "Two Morceau de Concert de Donizetti, paroles Francaisses de Charlemaine" - Published Schonenberger, Paris 1839. Written for Voice, Horn and Piano. Would be interested in seeing your entire list. The list I included in the Dalley Horn Catalogue - on CD includes deductions on 5 opus numbers. So I would like to obtain more accurate information. Regards. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 1 date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:28:56 -0600 from: "McBeth, Amy J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] still more Gallay research Has anyone run across a title for Gallay's opus 34?? Of the 60 opus numbers I've run across, this is the only one I'm not finding. There are a number without opus numbers, so it's certainly possible the title is out there, but not connected to a number. =20 Many thanks, Amy=20 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] RE: Odd Ball Mouthpiece
Are these rims screw rims ? If so, what about the wear of the screw ? Silver drilling is quite a mess as silver smears quite a lot. The slower processing makes the price, not the silver. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:07 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Odd Ball Mouthpiece Hi Leonard: The Paxman mouthpieces are solid nickel - (I use one),, however, we've taken it one step further in the mouthpieces Jim Phelan makes.. we use solid silver for the rims - never needs replating - and silver isn't all that expensive these days! Leonard wrote: Any of you use a solid nickel silver mouthpiece? I have one and it makes life a little easier, there is no plating to wear. It might have a little more frictional "cling" to it than a plated mouthpiece but not enough to notice. Its one of those things that I would think would have a large market share of mouthpieces but I have never seen another one. Leonard// Laredo "Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow" http://www.poperepair.com U.S. Dealer: Ricco Kühn, Paxman and Dietmar Dürk Pope Instrument Repair 80 Wenham Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 617-522-0532 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Tcherepnin Six Pieces
Sorry, I checked with amazon.de & amazon.com & both said Mozarteum-Hornensemble only, not Hohchule. Perhaps needing new glasses. These six Tscherepnine (with the e at the end, but there are other spellings depending of the transcription of the Russian original into other languages) pieces are well labelled for their character. Let your imagination fly & you will reproduce the right. And for the Bach/Shaw fugue ? Get an impression by listening to a violin or cello or organ recording of a Bach fugue, avoid extrem tempo & extrem dynamics, let the principal voice come in front a bit as soon as it appears. Do we really need a recorded sample of all pieces, just to imitate them ? 40 - 50 years ago we had nothing and did perform these pieces also. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Schreckengost Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:06 PM To: Horn List (E-mail); Horn Yahoo (E-mail) Subject: [Hornlist] Tcherepnin Six Pieces Sorry for the double posting. Does anyone know of a recording currently available of the Tcherepnin Six Pieces for Horn Quartet or of the Bach/Shaw Fugue in c minor for horn quartet? I can't find any on amazon.com or tower.com. The best I could do was an album called Born for Horn recorded by the Horn ensemble of the Mozarteum Hohchule (looks wrong to me, but it is the way it is spelled on amazon.com) that is not in any of their retailer's stocks. It has a recording of the Tcherepnin. John Schreckengost Chicago, IL ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Tcherepnin Six Pieces
Sorry for the double posting. Does anyone know of a recording currently available of the Tcherepnin Six Pieces for Horn Quartet or of the Bach/Shaw Fugue in c minor for horn quartet? I can't find any on amazon.com or tower.com. The best I could do was an album called Born for Horn recorded by the Horn ensemble of the Mozarteum Hohchule (looks wrong to me, but it is the way it is spelled on amazon.com) that is not in any of their retailer's stocks. It has a recording of the Tcherepnin. John Schreckengost Chicago, IL ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
