[Hornlist] helikon
I am looking for a helikon, rather used and not too expensive but still in conditions to play on. Does anyone know anything, is there any forum where instruments were sold? I would be glad for information, Anna Katharina Schumann ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] helikon
From: Anna Katharina Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a helikon, rather used and not too expensive but still in conditions to play on. Does anyone know anything, is there any forum where instruments were sold? I would be glad for information, I assume from web.de, that you are German, even if there never were German Vikings. German eBay frequently presents helicons for sale, even if they quite often are wrapped like the instrument, which was patented in tsarist Russia as the Herculesophone or something like that. The difference is most notable in the BBb contrabass version, where the US helicons, like sousaphones, have 270° of the outer perimeter covered by two layers of tubing. The Herculesophone types always have all tubing, but for the bell, in front of the player, and they always have rotary valves. Whereas the US, Belgian, and French helicons (almost) exclusively are pitched in Eb or BBb, then the Czech and German helicons most often are in F or BBb with a few samples in Eb surfacing from time to time. The Czech and German helicons very often have 4 rotors, whereas the US, Belgian, and French helicons most often have 3 pistons with a few samples with 4 pistons. All circular basses are heavy compared with horns. The weight ratio rarely goes below 4:1. In general the Czech and German helicons are made out of thinner brass sheets than the older US helicons, which were massively built like the old sousaphones. And just about all US made helicons are old, as the helicon lost the battle with the sousaphone. That may have been a matter of being able to march in closer ranks. Swaying a helicon may decapitate the player to the left. A certain style of helicons used to come up on German eBay in recent years: Russian made BBb's with just 3 rotors and huge bells almost without a flare like the original Cerveny Kaiser tubas. I would have liked to own one of these just for the bell, but I already have 3 sousaphones and 2 tubas, so space matters. And that touches a really sore spot of the helicons: unlike with sousaphones the bell rarely can be taken off. So helicons are pure hell to transport! Klaus ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Austrian Company Unveils New Horn!!!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: The SCHMUTZER HORN und SCHAUFEL FABRIK has unveiled the world's first horn with invisible valves. This revolutionary instrument enables the artist to play natural horn music in tune with no funny notes and fool the audience into thinking they are performing on the natural horn with no valves. It also keeps the other players in your section from stealing and selling your secret fingerings! Prices start at $29.99, USD, a bargain!!! Click here: eBay item 7306590097 (Ends Mar-15-05 06:57:04 PST) - Old French Horn, brass, musical display, Austria Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Exit 2 Brass Quintet Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 Community College, Exit 2, NJ Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit, Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics, and What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn? Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch Public Radio (KPR) Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need! Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who Does Not Get His Horns For Free Phone: yes Fax: yes E-mail: yes Website: no Kopprasch will make you visible. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] helikon - boy, is this NHR!
In a message dated 3/8/2005 7:45:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And just about all US made helicons are old, as the helicon lost the battle with the sousaphone. That was due largely to the development of the sousaphone by C.G.Conn, LTD, in association with JP Sousa. Sousa's influence and the buying power of the US government held sway over the market. Originally, the sousaphone had a bell that flared straight up, giving it the endearing nickname, raincatcher, and making it look a bit more like its predecessor. Sousa preferred the bell up sound, Conn preferred the bell forward marketability. One can actually still buy a sousaphone with a raincatcher bell from King, now merged with the Conn name, among others. And now, let's all play Trivial Pursuit, the Brass Players' Edition. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] helikon - boy, is this NHR!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/8/2005 7:45:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And just about all US made helicons are old, as the helicon lost the battle with the sousaphone. That was due largely to the development of the sousaphone by C.G.Conn, LTD, in association with JP Sousa. Sousa's influence and the buying power of the US government held sway over the market. Originally, the sousaphone had a bell that flared straight up, giving it the endearing nickname, raincatcher, and making it look a bit more like its predecessor. Sousa preferred the bell up sound, Conn preferred the bell forward marketability. One can actually still buy a sousaphone with a raincatcher bell from King, now merged with the Conn name, among others. And now, let's all play Trivial Pursuit, the Brass Players' Edition. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited Of course Dave is right about the NHR aspects. However I didn't initiate this thread, whereas I attempted to give a fairly thorough reply, as my level of knowledge on this topic very likely is above average in horn contexts. The statement of the current availability of raincatcher sousas exceeds my level of being informed. Please give me some hard proof! As a very tolerant person I will accept it in a software format. Please read a valid link. Klaus ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Austrian Company Unveils New Horn!!!
Dear Prof. I did not know that Schoenbach in Bohemia belongs to Austria, nor would Osmanek be a typical Austrian name. No joke now: these kind of horns were mass produced in Schoenbach near Graslitz/Graslice got the nickel silver name plate of the dealers. They were band horns or for the military. Graslitz Schoenbach are just accross the border from Markneukirchen Klingenthal in Germany, with their famous Knopf Hoyer brand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:40 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Austrian Company Unveils New Horn!!! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: The SCHMUTZER HORN und SCHAUFEL FABRIK has unveiled the world's first horn with invisible valves. This revolutionary instrument enables the artist to play natural horn music in tune with no funny notes and fool the audience into thinking they are performing on the natural horn with no valves. It also keeps the other players in your section from stealing and selling your secret fingerings! Prices start at $29.99, USD, a bargain!!! Click here: eBay item 7306590097 (Ends Mar-15-05 06:57:04 PST) - Old French Horn, brass, musical display, Austria Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Exit 2 Brass Quintet Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 Community College, Exit 2, NJ Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit, Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics, and What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn? Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch Public Radio (KPR) Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need! Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who Does Not Get His Horns For Free Phone: yes Fax: yes E-mail: yes Website: no Kopprasch will make you visible. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 27, Issue 1
For info about The Dalley Horn Catalogue, contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] VerMeulen page
Check this out. I haven't actually listened to it because I refuse to keep realplayer installed on my computer, but I'm sure it's worth listening too http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~navmusic/profiles/william_vermeulen.html or even better, http://tinyurl.com/58tp8 Chris __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Midwest workshop
message: 2 date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) from: Anna Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] RE: 2005 Northeast Horn Workshop - What about Midwest Horn Workshop? Has anyone heard anything about the Midwest Horn Workshop? I went last year (at Butler University), but I have heard nothing about a conference this year. Does anyone know if there will be one, when, where . . . those kind of things? Thank you! Anna Henry Hi Anna, There isn't going to be one this year because nobody wanted to host it. I've been trying to convince some of my teacher friends to host it next year, but so far, no luck. If anyone knows a Midwestern Horn professor well enough to just call and make demands, I highly suggest you try as well. Statistically speaking, one of us is bound to succeed. Stuart Stuart A. de Haro, Custom Horn Leadpipes, Brass Repair and Modification (217) 377-1462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deharohorns.com __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] VerMeulen page
If you Google Real Alternative you'll find just that, a free player that plays Real files but isn't the spam and ad monster that the real Real player can be. I use Real Alternative, I know several other folks who do, too, and we're all happy with it. Steve real real Freides -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:00 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] VerMeulen page Check this out. I haven't actually listened to it because I refuse to keep realplayer installed on my computer, but I'm sure it's worth listening too http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~navmusic/profiles/william_vermeulen.html or even better, http://tinyurl.com/58tp8 Chris __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
