[Hornlist] Tarnished Horn On eBay
Nice high-end Yamaha -- check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=16215item=7315885262rd=1 One more example of the ravages of atmospheric exposure on raw brass. Polish it up give it a nice coat of lacquer then you'd really have something. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Tarnished Horn On eBay
I don't know about you, but I love the patina that has acquired. -Williamj In a message dated 4/16/2005 9:04:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice high-end Yamaha -- check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=16215item=7315885262r d=1 One more example of the ravages of atmospheric exposure on raw brass. Polish it up give it a nice coat of lacquer then you'd really have something. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yamaha Talk...So, Yamaha for sale
Hi List, Yamaha 666 in nisi for sale for 1500$ in excellent condition, good compression, will be fully cleaned and all little dings of love removed before it is shipped out. If there is Any interest email me for pics! Comes with nice yamaha case. Plays as good or better than any yamaha I've played. Great high register! Great sound! Will throw in a tone blob at that price! Or sell tone blob separately for 65$. Will fit UMI Conn's and 80's Yamahas. Thanks Joshua Johnson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Tarnished Horn On eBay
In a message dated 4/16/2005 7:04:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice high-end Yamaha -- check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=16215item=7315885262; rd=1 One more example of the ravages of atmospheric exposure on raw brass. Is the original Schmidt a particularly valuable horn? How does the Yamaha 'Custom' line differ from the hand made horns that Conn, York, or particularly, Reynolds made on their American production lines? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Can anyone help me to identify this vintage horn? It is a Carl Fischer import designed like a CF Schmidt. There are things about the instrument that indicate that it could be an actual Schmidt. There is no serial number. Engraved on the bell is Carl Fischer, Inc, New YorkSymphony Model. The third slide on the B flat side is shaped like a Schmidt, in four straight pieces. the bell to body brace is not a socket brace there is no receiver on the leadpipe. Because of these features, the horn does not look like an Italian import at all. The valves and braces look European. The piston valve looks like a York piston. The engraving on the instrument is off center. The leadpipe is nickel silver, and may be short compared to original Schmidts, but I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ORIGINAL CF SCHMIDT; so, I dont know. I CAN'T PLAY IT ! The instrument is missing both tuning slides. I want to know if it is worth going through the effort of making slides. Could someone that owns a CF Schmidt with the inscription of Carl Fischer Symphony Model on the bell please send pictures; so, I could compare the instruments? Also, if you're interested I can take pictures of this one.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Couple of technical questions
Just a side note, there are a few people out there who like their valves a little less than perfectly tight just for the feel of the horn. (not me) Aleks Ozolins NYC ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Couple of technical questions
I keep hearing these 'machine' numbers. 90% of what and measured where. To characterize a leak you at least need to specify pressure differential and leak rate. If I brought a horn in to a good technician, how would he measure it to determine it needs a valve job. I recently fixed up a horn for a lister that was unplayable, and he was told by repair people in the Boston area (no one was named) that it needed a valve job. The valves were fine, but there was a very subtle leak doing some strange things acoustically. Fixing the leak, once it was located, was not a big job, but I don't think anyone would have questioned the cost of the valve job based on the improvement, even though unnecessary. All that you need is a stopper for the bell and a bathtub full of water, and you can check your own horn for leaks. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to interpret whal streams of bubbles mean. If the valves are really leaky, you'll see bubbles coming from the rotor bearings. If you can substantially stop it by pushing the rotor to the bottom of the casing, tightening the bearings will help a lot, but it's the side play that has to be removed with a shrink collet. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Couple of technical questions
I used to be 1 of those people -- that is, until I tried a new Yamaha discovered how much better it is playing on a horn with tight valves -- so much better that I then had my old beat-up leaky-valve Alexander 103 totally restored modified -- custom lead pipe (with water key), valves replated refitted, cut-bell conversion, ambronze bell flare, the works. Wow, what an improvement! -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. Just a side note, there are a few people out there who like their valves a little less than perfectly tight just for the feel of the horn. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Couple of technical questions
Bill, I may be wildly wrong, but I'm not sure that there are a lot of technicians out there who apply methods scientific and accurate enough to keep up with the technical questions you asked in one of your first mails on the subject. I've seen many shops where replating the valves to fix supposed leaks involved nothing more than a bucket with the solution, an electric motor so that the valves could spin in the solution under a current, and some fine-grained sandpaper. In any case, you're not getting many technical answers to your technical questions. I wonder what the Lawsons would have to say? If I brought a horn in to a good technician, how would he measure it to determine it needs a valve job. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
