Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR)?
Well, I'd willing to go to bat for NPR if they changed, "All Things Considered" to "All Horns Considered." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:49 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR)? Well, I'm going to call my Congresspeople. They don't need to cut NPR by 45%, and then whatever is supposed to come after that, IMHO. "Performance Today" isn't horn-related? I've heard a few horn concerti over the years. And "From The Top" for young classical music players and listeners? I'm thinking the world will be a darker place without NPR as it is these days. It's not a done deal. I, for one, am going to get a little vocal on this one. FWIW. William Lynn ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR)?
Well, I'm going to call my Congresspeople. They don't need to cut NPR by 45%, and then whatever is supposed to come after that, IMHO. "Performance Today" isn't horn-related? I've heard a few horn concerti over the years. And "From The Top" for young classical music players and listeners? I'm thinking the world will be a darker place without NPR as it is these days. It's not a done deal. I, for one, am going to get a little vocal on this one. FWIW. William Lynn ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
In a message dated 6/16/05 12:52:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "The purpose of the Horn Discussion Group is to provide a forum for > electronic conversation about all things relating to the horn's > playing technique, repertoire, ensembles, personalities, and so on. > You might want to consider that funding for the NEA is also part of this package that is being threatened with cancellation. The politics of PBS and NPR are definitly not something to argue over here, however the funding of the NEA is something of importance to most, if not all, working hornplayers. Paul Navarro ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
Well NPR really hasn't paid much attention to the horn, except for Sid Fitch back in the 80s on April Fools day. Does that make it fair game? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Ward Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:27 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) My point exactly. There are plenty of places to debate questions about NPR. I'd like to keep this list from straying too far. Just my opinion. B On Jun 16, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: > From the beginning, Gary has maintained an absolute hands off > policy, so members are free to post about whatever they wish. As a > fellow subscriber, however, I would ask that posts be at least > indirectly related to the purpose of the list. The ones in question > are not, and whenever political viewpoints start to get mixed in with > horn talk we tend to get bogged down in flame wars. When that > happens, people start getting offended and leaving the list. IIRC, > one of the contributors to this thread did exactly that awhile back > and only recently rejoined the list. > > Dan > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
My point exactly. There are plenty of places to debate questions about NPR. I'd like to keep this list from straying too far. Just my opinion. B On Jun 16, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: > From the beginning, Gary has maintained an absolute hands off > policy, so members are free to post about whatever they wish. As a > fellow subscriber, however, I would ask that posts be at least > indirectly related to the purpose of the list. The ones in question > are not, and whenever political viewpoints start to get mixed in with > horn talk we tend to get bogged down in flame wars. When that > happens, people start getting offended and leaving the list. IIRC, > one of the contributors to this thread did exactly that awhile back > and only recently rejoined the list. > > Dan > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
An interesting & well written perspective along those lines can be viewed on the Internet at... http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110006824 -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ At 11:34 AM 6/16/2005, you wrote: >I agree that our local NPR radio stations seem a bit off-center, >politically. But have seen no evidence of that on PBS >television. Regarding your 'power base' statements, do you believe that >programming/direction on public broadcasting should reflect the >philosophies of who happens to have political power at any particular time? > >Fred > >Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the >political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. >It's time to pay up. > >- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Student horn for sale
Further to my earlier posting, I will be happy to email digital photographs, including closeups, of the horn to any one that is seriously interested. Regards... Tom ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
Point of clarification. I left this list immediately after the outbreak of GWII. There were strongly held positions on both sides, I stated mine, then after watching the conversation continue on a topic with strongly held positions on both side decided I would remove myself for a while. I did not leave in a huff, I did not leave in a minute and a huff. I just moved on to other pursuit of my own volition. It was a personal decision. I did pull pitch because I felt threatened or felt upset or any other reason. I took personal responsibility for shifting on to other things. Someone else noted if you want a PC moderated group there is one. Obligatory tangential reference. . . I rejoined the list after reaching a point in my life when I could start playing the horn again having put two careers to rest. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Phillips Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:51 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) On Jun 16, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Walter E. Lewis wrote: > I agree with Paul, why take this thread off of the list? If you > want to go > to the moderated, politically correct list, go over to the Yahoo > group. > >> In a message dated 6/16/05 11:53:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> Let's take this discussion off the list please. >>> >> Why? >> Paul Navarro >> ___ The reasoning has nothing to do with political correctness; it's a question of relevance. As the description on the list info page puts it: "The purpose of the Horn Discussion Group is to provide a forum for electronic conversation about all things relating to the horn's playing technique, repertoire, ensembles, personalities, and so on. Sending a message to the list causes it to be distributed automatically to a subscribing membership of about 900 people worldwide. So questions get lots of answers, and issues get lots of responses. Like hornists themselves, the list is usually full of friendly banter and helpfulness with the occasional curmudgeon. All are welcome." As it says, members are from all over the world and many have no interest in U.S. politics. Many members pay for connectivity by the minute and/or bandwidth by the kilobyte, so even though they can delete these messages, they still have to pay for the privilege. From the beginning, Gary has maintained an absolute hands off policy, so members are free to post about whatever they wish. As a fellow subscriber, however, I would ask that posts be at least indirectly related to the purpose of the list. The ones in question are not, and whenever political viewpoints start to get mixed in with horn talk we tend to get bogged down in flame wars. When that happens, people start getting offended and leaving the list. IIRC, one of the contributors to this thread did exactly that awhile back and only recently rejoined the list. Dan Dan Phillips Associate Professor of Horn, University of Memphis site administrator: music.memphis.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
Loss of funds would affect both talk and music. We might even be deprived of excellent concerts by the San Francisco Symphony. Pete ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
On Jun 16, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Walter E. Lewis wrote: > I agree with Paul, why take this thread off of the list? If you > want to go > to the moderated, politically correct list, go over to the Yahoo > group. > >> In a message dated 6/16/05 11:53:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> Let's take this discussion off the list please. >>> >> Why? >> Paul Navarro >> ___ The reasoning has nothing to do with political correctness; it's a question of relevance. As the description on the list info page puts it: "The purpose of the Horn Discussion Group is to provide a forum for electronic conversation about all things relating to the horn's playing technique, repertoire, ensembles, personalities, and so on. Sending a message to the list causes it to be distributed automatically to a subscribing membership of about 900 people worldwide. So questions get lots of answers, and issues get lots of responses. Like hornists themselves, the list is usually full of friendly banter and helpfulness with the occasional curmudgeon. All are welcome." As it says, members are from all over the world and many have no interest in U.S. politics. Many members pay for connectivity by the minute and/or bandwidth by the kilobyte, so even though they can delete these messages, they still have to pay for the privilege. From the beginning, Gary has maintained an absolute hands off policy, so members are free to post about whatever they wish. As a fellow subscriber, however, I would ask that posts be at least indirectly related to the purpose of the list. The ones in question are not, and whenever political viewpoints start to get mixed in with horn talk we tend to get bogged down in flame wars. When that happens, people start getting offended and leaving the list. IIRC, one of the contributors to this thread did exactly that awhile back and only recently rejoined the list. Dan Dan Phillips Associate Professor of Horn, University of Memphis site administrator: music.memphis.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Atkinson Bells
I've just asked Mark to ship me one of his "European Large" bells in nickel, on trialanyone have any experience with one of these? Impressions? Thanks, Fred ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
I agree with Paul, why take this thread off of the list? If you want to go to the moderated, politically correct list, go over to the Yahoo group. I kind of feel like the administration would like to do all they can to censor PBS/NPR. I would be willing to bet good money the report on Frontline about Mr. Rumsfeld's war really raised their dander...Look what was in the news yesterday about the Shaivo (probably spelled incorrectly) and that the Bush administration will not back away from their stance on the matter. I think this is the same kind of rhetoric. Walt Lewis At 01:04 PM 6/16/2005 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/16/05 11:53:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Let's take this discussion off the list please. > > > >Why? >Paul Navarro >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/wlewis9637%40wowway.com > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
In a message dated 6/16/05 11:53:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Let's take this discussion off the list please. > Why? Paul Navarro ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Student horn for sale
Several people have suggested that I put the details about my old horn on the lists, in case there is some interest. Likewise, several have suggested that I wait a while, until it is closer to the time that school starts. I think both make some sense, but since I have had some people express some interest. I'll go ahead and post information about the horn Here's a little background. I am an old guy (74) who had been away from the horn for over fifty years when I got the bug again. I had told my wife many times how much I had enjoyed the horn. I thought my playing days were far behind me, since as much as I enjoy the horn, I enjoy ensemble playing the most. Then I found out about all of the software that was available and the community organizations. I decided to buy a horn but didn't want to spend too much until I found what I could do. Last October, I bought the horn I discuss below and found a horn teacher. About two months ago, I joined a community band and played in my first concert in over fifty years about a month ago. I have had a ball! . The Horn is a Jupiter JHR 852 F/Bb double horn. It is a Geyer wrap horn in excellent condition. All of the valves work smoothly and the valve linkage is mechanical, which I believe is better for students learning the horn. I bought it from Strait Music in Austin last October and it has given me very good service. In many respects, I probably don't need a new horn. This horn has served me well both in my learning and as a member of the Band of the Hills, a community band here in central Texas. I think it is an excellent student horn, but I think I have made enough progress to move up to a better horn, and, as one of the earlier posters said, "I can afford it". There is a hard case, with a few minor scratches which I haven't attempted to polish out, being naturally lazy. I will include a Holton Farkas MC mouthpiece which came with the horn when I bought it. I am asking $1,500, plus shipping, if necessary. I have been very pleased with it. Anyone who is interested can either email me or call me at (512)-267-4393. Regards... Tom -- Thomas M. Spillman, Jr. Asst. Professor (retired) Information Technology MBA Program School of Management St. Edward's University Austin, TX (home) 512-267-4393 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
Let's take this discussion off the list please. Bob On Jun 16, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Bill Gross wrote: > Did I say that? I don't think so. I said the power base had shifted. > Those who felt that PBS/NPR has been biased in favor of the newly > minted > "outs" are the newly minted "ins." They now control the purse > strings. > They are in a position to vote their own perception of truth. > > Though it is interesting to note that no long does PBS carry > neither William > F. Buckely Jr. nor Milton Freidman, nor does it carry programming of > individuals with similar philosophies. The same can not be said > for the > other side of the fence. > > Like I said, they placed their bet on one party staying in power > longer. > That horse came in second this time. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
Lucky here in northern Arizona, KNAU has two channels one for talk the other classical music. John ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
Exactly so. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Thompson Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:48 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) The whole problem with using any tax money to subsidize any activity is that it encourages such irresponsible, rent-seeking behavior. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Baucom Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) I agree that our local NPR radio stations seem a bit off-center, politically. But have seen no evidence of that on PBS television. Regarding your 'power base' statements, do you believe that programming/direction on public broadcasting should reflect the philosophies of who happens to have political power at any particular time? Fred Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
Did I say that? I don't think so. I said the power base had shifted. Those who felt that PBS/NPR has been biased in favor of the newly minted "outs" are the newly minted "ins." They now control the purse strings. They are in a position to vote their own perception of truth. Though it is interesting to note that no long does PBS carry neither William F. Buckely Jr. nor Milton Freidman, nor does it carry programming of individuals with similar philosophies. The same can not be said for the other side of the fence. Like I said, they placed their bet on one party staying in power longer. That horse came in second this time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Baucom Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:35 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) I agree that our local NPR radio stations seem a bit off-center, politically. But have seen no evidence of that on PBS television. Regarding your 'power base' statements, do you believe that programming/direction on public broadcasting should reflect the philosophies of who happens to have political power at any particular time? Fred Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:03 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert We may not be able to view such programs much longer if Congress has its way. They're taking a vote today on cutting funding to PBS and NPR,partially at first, then totally! - Original Message - From: "Larry Jellison" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:05 AM Subject: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert > Philip Meyers' playing tonight, such a wonderful horn > sound. Haunting, resonant, dark and bright at the > same time. PBS' sound needs to be better to do it justice. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/horn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
The whole problem with using any tax money to subsidize any activity is that it encourages such irresponsible, rent-seeking behavior. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Baucom Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert) I agree that our local NPR radio stations seem a bit off-center, politically. But have seen no evidence of that on PBS television. Regarding your 'power base' statements, do you believe that programming/direction on public broadcasting should reflect the philosophies of who happens to have political power at any particular time? Fred Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] PBS (NHR) (was Lincoln Center Concert)
I agree that our local NPR radio stations seem a bit off-center, politically. But have seen no evidence of that on PBS television. Regarding your 'power base' statements, do you believe that programming/direction on public broadcasting should reflect the philosophies of who happens to have political power at any particular time? Fred Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:03 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert We may not be able to view such programs much longer if Congress has its way. They're taking a vote today on cutting funding to PBS and NPR,partially at first, then totally! - Original Message - From: "Larry Jellison" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:05 AM Subject: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert > Philip Meyers' playing tonight, such a wonderful horn > sound. Haunting, resonant, dark and bright at the > same time. PBS' sound needs to be better to do it justice. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/horn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Selling your student-model horn (was Horn Disposal)
On Jun 16, 2005, at 7:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 6. Consigning to a dealer. > Advantages: You take home more of the sale price, usually 90 > percent, or the > sale price less a fixed dollar amount. You don't have to do any > work - no > shipping, etc., and the dealer is the one who worries about scam > buyers. Most > dealers will get what the market will bear for the instrument. > Disadvantages: You give up some of the sale price in exchange for > doing none > of the work and having none of the worry. The sale might not be > quick, > depending on the market. > This is a good option to take in many circumstances, but beware of the dealer who sells your horn on consignment, then doesn't reimburse you. It can and does happen. This can lead to much lost time and untold grief for the seller. Please choose your dealers carefully. -Carl ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Here in Baltimore, we were lucky in this respect. The two main > public radio > stations went separate ways several years back, one going mostly > talk/news and > the other remaining mostly classical music. Seemingly the best of > both > worlds, BUT if they both go off the air then we have neither > news/talk nor > classical music, just Snarf and Barf In The Morning on Your Classic > Rock Station! Withdrawal of public funding for them doesn't mean that they'll necessarily go off the air - unless, that is, they shouldn't be on the air in the first place. I suspect that there would be plenty of classical music enthusiasts in a major metro area like Baltimore/DC to support a radio station that doesn't offend them otherwise. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Giulini recordings
Hi, all- For anyone not familiar with it, pl know that there is a 4 cd album, prob still available, called (something like) "Giulini, the Chicago Recordings." I recommened these performances highly--they show the result when musicians put the composer and the score first. As I remember, included are a few Stravinskys, Beeth 7th, Mahler 1, etc. I hope you all are enjoying your summer--DK With great care and love, the spiderweb weaves its spider. African proverb Horn Professor Emeritus, Denver University www.du.edu/~dkaslow Home: 34 George St, Montpelier, VT 05602 Phone: 802 229-2994 Author, "Living Dangerously with the Horn: Thoughts on Life and Art" and "With Aspirations High: Discussions and Exercises for Musicians" Available at bookstores, through www.booksense.com, and (signed) from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
In a message dated 6/16/2005 7:47:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not only that, around here the 2 main "public" radio stations dropped music, went to all-talk, & spent much of their hard-begged money duplicating each other's programming. Here in Baltimore, we were lucky in this respect. The two main public radio stations went separate ways several years back, one going mostly talk/news and the other remaining mostly classical music. Seemingly the best of both worlds, BUT if they both go off the air then we have neither news/talk nor classical music, just Snarf and Barf In The Morning on Your Classic Rock Station! Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Selling your student-model horn (was Horn Disposal)
As a retailer, I think this is an interesting thread. The dynamics of selling a horn have changed dramatically over the last few years. Here is my view of the advantages and disadvantages of various ways of selling your student-model horn. For purposes of this discussion, let's call a student-model horn any horn which can be expected to sell for around $2,500 or less. This is an arbitrary number, and it applies differently to new and used models, but please don't take this as some hard and fast rule. It's just for purposes of discussion. In general, your choices are 1. a private sale, 2. posting it on eBay, 3. posting it on hornplayer.net, 4. posting it on any other online service or auction, 5. selling it to a dealer, or 6. selling on consignment through a dealer. 1. A private sale. This can be most advantageous nowadays. Advantages: it can be quick, you get the whole amount, it can help someone you know. Likely you can avoid the whole sales tax issue. Shipping is not involved if you sell locally. Disadvantages: selling to those whom you know can cause problems on a personal level especially if there are problems with the horn, you might sell it short and hurt your pocketbook, you might overcharge and hurt someone else's feelings. Shipping can be a pain if necessary. You have to be wary of scam buyers. 2. Posting it on eBay Advantages: worldwide market, relatively easy to set up a sale, they have safeguard services to make it a good sale. The sale can be done relatively quickly. If you are eBay savvy then it can be a breeze to do. Disadvantages: there are lots of scam buyers looking for high value items, eBay is not always helpful if you get stung, fees can eat into your sale, buyers are looking for bargains and you might not get full value. Shipping is almost a certainty. If you are not eBay savvy, then it can be daunting to begin and learn everything you need to know. 3. Posting it on hornplayer.net. Advantages: worldwide market of knowledgeable buyers. You get the whole amount - no fees. Buyers are usually more interested in a good horn than a great price - likely you will a good price. Easy to use, and you are not obligated to sell it through hornplayer.net. Disadvantages: scam buyers have invaded hornplayer.net recently, so beware. This is a private sale, likely to someone you don't know, and hornplayer.net is only a bulletin board so there are no safeguards. Shipping is almost a certainty. 4. Posting it on any other online service. Advantages: Not many. Safeguards in place on some services. Disadvantages: all of the above disadvantages, plus fewer buyers make these small markets. 5. Selling to a dealer. Advantages: Quick sale. Sometimes you have a choice of cash or store credit which is usually for a higher amount than a cash sale. No shipping, no worries about bad buyers. Disadvantages: Dealers have to make a profit, so your take-home amount is probably the least of all under this option. 6. Consigning to a dealer. Advantages: You take home more of the sale price, usually 90 percent, or the sale price less a fixed dollar amount. You don't have to do any work - no shipping, etc., and the dealer is the one who worries about scam buyers. Most dealers will get what the market will bear for the instrument. Disadvantages: You give up some of the sale price in exchange for doing none of the work and having none of the worry. The sale might not be quick, depending on the market. Tips: Find a teacher who has a needy student. Know your buyer, or be wary of the unknown buyer. Safeguard your sale as best you can. Survey prices of comparable models online to know what your horn is likely to be worth, but remember that most sellers over-value their sale and most buyers under-value it. Decide what's most important to you - quick money or full value. Remember, all these tips apply to student-model horns. Professional model horns are a different animal altogether because they have a different market. Good luck! Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
Not only that, around here the 2 main "public" radio stations dropped music, went to all-talk, & spent much of their hard-begged money duplicating each other's programming. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
NPR/PBS dug its own grave. It set out to target a certain segment of the political spectrum. The power base shifted and they back the wrong horse. It's time to pay up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:03 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert We may not be able to view such programs much longer if Congress has its way. They're taking a vote today on cutting funding to PBS and NPR,partially at first, then totally! - Original Message - From: "Larry Jellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:05 AM Subject: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert > Philip Meyers' playing tonight, such a wonderful horn > sound. Haunting, resonant, dark and bright at the > same time. PBS' sound needs to be better to do it justice. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/horn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Fw: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert
We may not be able to view such programs much longer if Congress has its way. They're taking a vote today on cutting funding to PBS and NPR,partially at first, then totally! - Original Message - From: "Larry Jellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:05 AM Subject: [horn] Lincoln Center Concert > Philip Meyers' playing tonight, such a wonderful horn > sound. Haunting, resonant, dark and bright at the > same time. PBS' sound needs to be better to do it justice. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/horn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn disposal
Advertise it on: _http://hornplayer.net_ (http://hornplayer.net) All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_ (http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/) Dulcian Wind Quintet: _http://dulcianwind.co.uk_ (http://dulcianwind.co.uk/) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
