[Hornlist] rotor bumpers

2005-08-09 Thread Mark J. Syslo
   One of my private students is using a horn recently serviced by our 
school's instrument lease outfit.  During the lesson, one of the recently 
replaced rotor stops fell out.  
   I thought it was customary to superglue neoprene rotor stops into the 
cup.  (The last guy to work on my 20L glued them.)  The shop who fixed it 
doesn't think so.
   Who's right?


Mark J. Syslo
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Re: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers - to cork or not to cork

2005-08-09 Thread Olav Traa

superglue neoprene rotor stops

In my very unofficial and certainly unscientific testing of different 
materials for rotor stops, I have yet to find a material that matches 
good quality cork.  It's easy to trim and shape, stays in place and, for 
me, has the best combination of firmness and suppleness.  I've tried 
several differents kinds of rubber, neoprene, silicone and even plastic 
tubing.  One of the materials I really liked was from rubber exhaust 
hangers by VW.  Problem was though that it was very difficult to trim 
making proper alignment hard to achieve.


Olav in Montreal
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Re: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers - to cork or not to cork

2005-08-09 Thread Valkhorn
 
Osmun used to sell (and they may still do) neoprene rotor stop material. I  
have a few inches of it in my toolkit.
 
I prefer neoprene to cork because I once had cork rotors in my old Holton  
before I sold it. The cork wore out within a year.
 
To replace it I basically bought a rubber washer kit for 99 cents at the  
hardware store, found a thick rubber washer that fit, and cut it into the 
proper  
length with an x-acto knife. 
 
It did the job.
 
-William
 
In a message dated 8/9/2005 8:46:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In my  very unofficial and certainly unscientific testing of different 
materials  for rotor stops, I have yet to find a material that matches 
good quality  cork.  It's easy to trim and shape, stays in place and, for 
me, has  the best combination of firmness and suppleness.  I've tried 
several  differents kinds of rubber, neoprene, silicone and even plastic  
tubing.  One of the materials I really liked was from rubber exhaust  
hangers by VW.  Problem was though that it was very difficult to trim  
making proper alignment hard to achieve.

Olav in  Montreal


 
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Re: [Hornlist] Pros vs Amateurs

2005-08-09 Thread David Jewell
I have to agree.  Since I was in high school I have ushered for the local 
symphony/pops and the soloists that they have brought in have ranged from 
Itzahk Perlman to Barry Tuckwell [sadly I was in college 4 hours away singing 
Messiah so I missed my best chance to meet thim.]  I was fortunate enough to 
spend 45 minutes just hanging with David Bilger during the second half of the 
concert - just keeping a lonely soloist company and getting a great perspective 
on the life.  Uniformly all of these world class musicicans were warm, 
friendly, and generous with their insight.  Including all five of the Canadian 
Brass. [Dave Ohanion being the hornplayer then, who went on to prove himself a 
genuine hero when he graciously conducted the first two Osmun Music Horn Choir 
afternoons]
I have also spent way too much time with everyone from local well-knowns to 
those best described as up-and-coming B-Listers  who ranged from snotty, 
egotistical, to polite at best.  Some were genuinely warm and friendly, but not 
nearly as much as those whose name everybody knew.  Just my $.02 worth.
Paxmaha

Bo Gusman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has been my experience that the guys at the very top of the 
profession are the kindest,most humble, and eager to share and to help folks in 
the world. I could names scores of themwho have helped me through the years. 
It's the folks at the B or C level are the ones who,more often than not, have 
an attitude a mile wide and have forgotten 
where they have comefrom. These are not universal truths however.
Bottom line for me is that the golden rule trumps ability and position.
Bo




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RE: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers

2005-08-09 Thread Robert Osmun
If the stop plates are correctly shaped they will not need glue to hold the
bumpers in place. The holder needs to be tight enough to hold the bumper
without compressing it too much and should not have any sharp edges to cut
the bumper material. If you need to use glue to hold the bumpers in place
use a tiny dot of superglue, applied with a pin, to hold them until a
competent repairman can set them up correctly.

Bob Osmun
www.osmun.com 

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Subject: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers

   One of my private students is using a horn recently serviced by our
school's instrument lease outfit.  During the lesson, one of the recently
replaced rotor stops fell out.  
   I thought it was customary to superglue neoprene rotor stops into the
cup.  (The last guy to work on my 20L glued them.)  The shop who fixed it
doesn't think so.
   Who's right?


Mark J. Syslo
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[Hornlist] A strange horn

2005-08-09 Thread David Goldberg

http://music.schoolnet.ir/musicians-main.html

Is this from Iran?


{  David Goldberg:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
 { Ann Arbor Michigan }
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Re: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers

2005-08-09 Thread Luke Zyla

If they fit tight, you don't need to glue them.
Luke Zyla

Mark J. Syslo wrote:

  One of my private students is using a horn recently serviced by our 
school's instrument lease outfit.  During the lesson, one of the recently 
replaced rotor stops fell out.  
  I thought it was customary to superglue neoprene rotor stops into the 
cup.  (The last guy to work on my 20L glued them.)  The shop who fixed it 
doesn't think so.

  Who's right?


Mark J. Syslo
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[Hornlist] Anyone in Edinburgh next week?

2005-08-09 Thread Jonathan West
If so, do please come to one or more concerts that I'm taking part in on the
Fringe.

Tuesday 16 August 2005, 5pm
Dvorak: Serenade
Barber arr Singleton: Knoxville: summer of 1915 for soprano and chamber
ensemble
Debussy: Three Preludes arr  Michael Round for chamber ensemble
General Lavine: eccentric  (Book 2, No 6)
Canope (Book 2, No 10)
Les Collines d'Anacapri (Book 1, No 5)
Milhaud: Symphony No 5 Dixtour  for 10 wind instruments
Poulenc: Sextet for piano and wind quintet


Thursday 18 and Friday 19 August 2005, 5pm
Mozart: Gran Partita for 13 wind instruments
Strauss: Symphony No.2 (From the Happy Workshop) for 16 Wind instruments

All 3 concerts are in Canongate Kirk, on the Royal Mile. Do come by  say
hello afterwards if you are there.

Regards
Jonathan West

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[Hornlist] Pros vs. Amateurs

2005-08-09 Thread Gary Greene
On August 8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, It has been my experience that the 
guys at the very top of the profession are the kindest, most humble, and 
eager to share and to help folks in the world  It's the folks at the B 
or C level are the ones who, more often than not, have an attitude a mile 
wide and have forgotten where they have come from.


I have a slightly different take and language for a similar observation:  my 
experience has been that those who are half-way up the ladder and who are 
stuck there or are on the downward side of the ladder, tend to be very hard 
to deal with.  Those who are half-way and content, are half-way but still 
ascending, are at the top of the ladder, or who are gracefully experiencing 
a downward movement (e.g. retirement) tend to be very easy to deal with.  I 
think it has to do with a certain professional bitterness at not being where 
you want to be and taking it out on others through the idea that beating up 
on the lesser being makes you a greater being.


My experience also is that this extends pretty much to all fields and not 
just music performance.


Gary Greene


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Re: [Hornlist] Pros vs. Amateurs

2005-08-09 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 8/9/2005 4:35:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a  slightly different take and language for a similar observation:  my 
 
experience has been that those who are half-way up the ladder and who are  
stuck there or are on the downward side of the ladder,
 
Be kind to the people you meet on the way up, because you`ll meet the same  
people on the way down.

 
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Re: [Hornlist] Pros vs. Amateurs

2005-08-09 Thread PLJ59
 
Even if you end up climbing a very short ladder!
 
Phil Jacobs
 
In a message dated 8/9/2005 5:51:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a  message dated 8/9/2005 4:35:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a  slightly different  take and language for a similar observation:  
my 

experience has  been that those who are half-way up the ladder and who are  
stuck  there or are on the downward side of the ladder,

Be kind to the people  you meet on the way up, because you`ll meet the same  
people on the  way down.


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Re: [Hornlist] rotor bumpers - to cork or not to cork

2005-08-09 Thread John Baumgart

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 ...  One of the materials I really liked was from rubber exhaust 
 hangers by VW.  Problem was though that it was very difficult to trim 
 making proper alignment hard to achieve.

Especially while the car is moving.

John Baumgart

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[Hornlist] Signing off for a few weeks

2005-08-09 Thread Steve Freides
Just a note to say thank you again to everyone here for their assistance
during the past year.  I've been playing for about one year now, and tonight
I celebrated by slowing making my way through Handel's Every Valley aria
from The Messiah.  I'm a tenor and I know this one by heart (when I was in
college, my teacher referred to this as Steve's song), so this was without
written music, just me playing the vocal line at concert pitch from end to
end.  It went slowly - student horn repertoire seems to be almost
exclusively in flat keys and Every Valley is in E major - but it was a blast
to do.

See you all in September.

-S-

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[Hornlist] 4th horn audition September 2005

2005-08-09 Thread HN1220
 
 
Hi Listers,
 
A friend who plays in this orchestra asked me to  post this on the horn list.
If you have any questions please contact this  orchestra.
Thanks,
 
K. Culbertson
 
 
 
 
São Paulo State Symphony  Orchestra

 
4th Horn (wecheselhorn) with Assistant  Principal duties 
 
Date: September 23, 2005
Time: 11:00 a.m.
Location:  Sala São Paulo in the city of São Paulo  (Brazil) 
 
Note: Non-Brazilian applicants should immediately forward a CD  and 
letter/resume demonstrating their intent to apply/audition to the  following-
 
Alen Biscevic, gerente da orquestra
Orquestra Sinfonica Do Estado De Sao Paulo 
 
Estação Júlio Prestes
Rua Mauá,  51

São Paulo, SP CEP 01028-000
BRAZIL
 

 
REPERTOIRE  Com acompanhamento de piano 
Solo with piano  accomp.
1.Wolfgang A. Mozart Concerto nº 3 em Mi bemol maior, KV  447   2. Robert 
Schumann Adagio e Allegro  
Excertos orquestrais 
Orchestral  excerpts
1. Ludwig Van Beethoven Sinfonia nº 9 em ré menor, op  125 
- 3º movimento, 
- 4ª trompa.2. Dmitri Shostakovich Sinfonia nº 5 em ré menor, op.47  
- 1º movimento, 
- 2ª trompa3. Richard Strauss Uma vida de Herói (Ein  Heldenleben) 
- 1ª trompa   4. Piotr I Tchaikovsky Sinfonia nº 4 em fá menor, op.36  
- 1º movimento, 1ª trompa   5. Piotr I Tchaikovsky Sinfonia nº 5 em mi 
menor,  Op.64
- 4º movimento, 1ª trompa6. Gustav Mahler Sinfonia nº 1 em Ré maior 
-  1º movimento – início 
- 2ª trompa 
- Último movimento –  Triunfal 
- principal   7. Richard Wagner Abertura Os Mestres Cantores de  Nüremberg
- 1ª trompa  

For  further information contact Rosali at  (55-11) 3351-8097 or via e-mail  
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) .
 
orchestra site: _www.osesp.art.br_ (http://www.osesp.art.br/) 

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