Re: [Hornlist] Marching
Ok, now we are choosing sides of college bands? The Aggies have a fine band, but the bands that are generating the best sounds out there are as follows The Florida State Marching Chiefs, The Louisiana State Tiger Band, and The University of Southern California Trojan Band. (No I didn't attend any of these universities ) Happy Thoughts Chris - Original Message - From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Marching Speaking from experience with what is undoubtedly the best marching organization, the Texas Aggie Band, it's heels fist just like a person walks. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cbonner%40swfla.rr.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Marching
Your student is correct on the modern style of marching. Sorry, the old style went out a couple of decades ago for the most part. My question is, why are middle school students being taught marching basics? I am one of those "marching guys" I teach marching basics, and write marching band shows (drill design) and I hate it when middle school kids are made to waste time on something like this when there is so much that they need to learn other than "the scale" and left foot first. ( All of you music eduactors know what "the scale" is.) I could ramble about this all night but I won't. Happy Thoughts Chris - Original Message - From: "Wendell Rider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Horn-List" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Marching OK, in the interests of getting back to the basics, I'm going to pose a question that everyone can chime in on. This seemed silly to me at first, but one of my students, a middle schooler, came in one day and told me her teacher was having them march by bringing the heel down first and rolling to the toe. The teacher actually shows them video tapes of other bands and has pointed out that the other bands are doing it wrong by using the old tried and true method of marching with the toes coming down first, thus lessening the shock. Now am i just hopelessly out of date, is this some new philosophy of marching, or is this teacher just completely nuts? It has had a detrimental effect on my student's playing and has really upset her. Frankly I don't see how they can march this way at all. I would say that It might be that my student just got it wrong, but she has demonstrated exactly how her teacher told her to do it. Sincerely, Wendell Rider For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the summer seminar, go to my website: www.wendellworld.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cbonner%40swfla.rr.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: the real meaning of Clamssa?
Thank you for pardoning my 2005 clams. I needed that. I have already started on 2006. Today I performed Brahms Horn Trio. There were clams, but more importantly, there was music, too. Not too long ago I could not perform one movement without my chops wearing out. Today I could have gone on much longer. The audience was appreciative. It started out as background music for a reception, but soon everyone sat down and listened. Of course, who can talk over the horn in a small room? I watched the video of Perlman, Barenboim, and Clevenger performing the Brahms Horn Trio. Now there's an over-the-top performance! Herb Foster --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... we are now also having a new beginning of the counting of the > clams for 2006 and all your old clams are pardoned so let us all make the > gurgitations of the old and the imbibulations of the new so we can all make > the > mostestest successfullest of attemptings and recordings of all of them again > > and again and again in the New Year!!! > ... __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Marching
Speaking from experience with what is undoubtedly the best marching organization, the Texas Aggie Band, it's heels fist just like a person walks. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] HAPPY NEW CLAMS DAY!
NOW, please be looking at my updated official web page: _Click here: CLAMSAA, THE INTERNATIONAL HOLIDAY FOR HORN PLAYERS_ (http://www.horncamp.org/clamsaa.htm) Kindestest of Seasonings Greetonings and Mostestest of Clamsaafications in the New Year! Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Bad Corner Brass Quintet Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and Bugle Corps, "The Phantom Lane Changers" (summer only) Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 Community College, Exit 2, NJ (Ret.) Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn, Pest Control and Home Petroleum Studies, Northern New Hampshire Technical Institute, Bad Corner, NH Author, "The Kopprasch Connection," "Kopprasch for Fun and Profit," "Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In?" "Hooked on Hornonics," "What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn?" and "The Da Vinci Clam: The Search for the Holy Mouthpiece." Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch Public Radio (KPR) Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need! Owner-Operator, Bad Corner Petroleum Laboratory, " The Worlds Largest Valve Oil Factory" Founder and Disseminator of CLAMSAA, the Universal Holiday for Horn Players Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who Does Not Get His Horns For Free Phone: yes Fax: yes E-mail: yes Website: no "Year's end is neither an end nor a beginning but a going on, with all the wisdom that Kopprasch can instill in us." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: the real meaning of Clamssa?
LLB adjuritated: Prof. G. Oh leader... ... what is the TRUE meaning of Clamssa? Now, this is not only a good question but also a good answer as Clamsaa makes the unifications of us all whether we are human or subhuman or superhuman, animal or vegetable or mineral, small or medium or large, Geyer or Kruspe or other, Brass or Silver or Fiberglass, single or double or triple, no etcs. or some etcs. or many etcs. so you can mostly plainly see clearly that Clamsaa is the ONLY TRULY, SINCERELY, GENUINELY, LITERALLY, FACTUALLY, UNIVERSAL HOLIDAY for us all as it makes the spanning of this wide, wide, wide, wide world of ours with no problems whatsoevers and all of us, and I do mean everybody by that, can celebrate it on a daily basis whether we are North or South Clamerican, Clamopean, Clamsian, Clamfrican, Clamstrailian or Clamartican and it also has no reliqious bounderies so it matters not one iota if you are Clammish, Clamstian, Clamslim, Clamist, Clamnogstic or Clamtheist as you can always celebrate this mostestest of natural happenings so I implore you today, NEW CLAMS DAY, to celebrate our new beginning by enjoying the Clammers Parade from Clamadelphia or the Tournament of Clams Parade in Clamsadena or watch the Clam Bowl game between Clam State and Bivalve Tech and be sure to reset your clamometer as we are now also having a new beginning of the counting of the clams for 2006 and all your old clams are pardoned so let us all make the gurgitations of the old and the imbibulations of the new so we can all make the mostestest successfullest of attemptings and recordings of all of them again and again and again in the New Year!!! MERRY XOPPRASCH AND HAPPY CLAMSAA! Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Bad Corner Brass Quintet Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and Bugle Corps, "The Phantom Lane Changers" (summer only) Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 Community College, Exit 2, NJ (Ret.) Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn, Pest Control and Home Petroleum Studies, Northern New Hampshire Technical Institute, Bad Corner, NH Author, "The Kopprasch Connection," "Kopprasch for Fun and Profit," "Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In?" "Hooked on Hornonics," "What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn?" "The Da Vinci Clam: The Search for the Holy Mouthpiece" Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch Public Radio (KPR) Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need! Owner-Operator, Bad Corner Petroleum Laboratory, " The Worlds Largest Valve Oil Factory" Founder and Disseminator of CLAMSAA, the Universal Holiday for Horn Players Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who Does Not Get His Horns For Free Phone: yes Fax: yes E-mail: yes Website: no "Let's put the K back in Xopprasch!. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Marching
To be quite honest, heel first was the exact way I was taught to march, though it didn't really help me because my arms habitually shake. I had never heard of this method though, and it seems pretty awkward to step down on the toes first since I've never even tried to do it before. I admit that I just tried to march in that fashion and it seems to work much better than putting the heel down first, though I did occaisionally step heel first on accident. It might help, since I was going to join my high school's marching band next year. I can hardly believe it actually works. - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Marching
Mr. Rider, I believe that the style of marching that your student is referring to is the "roll step." This may well be another term for "glide step." I am not a marching expert, but I do know that this was the "default" step used by the University of Massacusetts Minuteman Marching Band during my brief participation there in the mid-1980's. This step is used commonly in Drum and Bugle Corps as well as by school marching bands of all levels. It is the primary step style for our local high school band, where I assisted for a number of years. When properly executed, it is a neat-looking step that should produce a negligible amount of bounce for the performer. To "drive one's heels" into the ground would be a mistake. I would hope that when your student's band director showed tape of other marching styles and pronounced them "wrong," perhaps he (she?) only meant "wrong in terms of what we are trying to do here." Obviously, once a director has decided upon a step style, constistency is of great importance - any individual not marching in the same style as everyone else is "wrong." Thank you in general for your usually informative and sometimes entertaining contributions to this list. Vincent Duval ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Vienna Phil New Year's 2006 Concert
-- Original message -- From: "Fred Baucom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In the U.S., this concert will be on PBS television tonite (Jan. 1st). > > > - Original Message - > From: "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'The Horn List'" > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:21 AM > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] (no subject) > > > The horn players at the Vienna Philharmonic New Year 2006 > Concert were from left to right: > > Front row: Wolfgang Tomböck jun. playing first & assistant > Lars-Michael Stransky playing first including Blue Danube > Waltz solo - later sequence shared by all three players in > the front row. > Thomas Jöbstl, playing second > > Second Row: Stefan Vladar playing third & Roland Horvath > playing fourth, his last New Year Concert, as he will retire > after this season > > Happy New Year > > Hans Pizka > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/nlaws2001%40comcast.net On the east coast the first performance is at 2:30 est and is repeated at 8:00 est. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Help - Somebody Coming to US from Europe?
Greetings - There is a small digital camera I really want, but it's not sold in the US. It's a Ricoh Caplio R3. It is available in Europe. Is someone coming to the US from Europe and willing to receive the camera, bring it with them to the US and send it to me in the US, where I'll be this month? I'd really appreciate it. Please reply privately. Thank you very much. Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Vienna Phil New Year's 2006 Concert
In the U.S., this concert will be on PBS television tonite (Jan. 1st). - Original Message - From: "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] (no subject) The horn players at the Vienna Philharmonic New Year 2006 Concert were from left to right: Front row: Wolfgang Tomböck jun. playing first & assistant Lars-Michael Stransky playing first including Blue Danube Waltz solo - later sequence shared by all three players in the front row. Thomas Jöbstl, playing second Second Row: Stefan Vladar playing third & Roland Horvath playing fourth, his last New Year Concert, as he will retire after this season Happy New Year Hans Pizka ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] (no subject)
The horn players at the Vienna Philharmonic New Year 2006 Concert were from left to right: Front row: Wolfgang Tomböck jun. playing first & assistant Lars-Michael Stransky playing first including Blue Danube Waltz solo - later sequence shared by all three players in the front row. Thomas Jöbstl, playing second Second Row: Stefan Vladar playing third & Roland Horvath playing fourth, his last New Year Concert, as he will retire after this season Happy New Year Hans Pizka ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Marching
Shorter version: it's not a right-or-wrong thing, but a style-and-function thing. I've been a fan of marching band competitions for three decades, and I have never heard of rules requiring or forbidding specific modes of marching. And believe me, if you go to these things often enough, you will eventually see every possible contortion of the human leg. Generally speaking, military and quasi-military (ROTC, fife-and-drum, etc.) bands that do mostly parade-style marching are going to favor the heel-to-toe (aka "precision") forward march, while bands that do mostly dance-style marching often favor the toe-down (aka "lifting") style. But this is a generalization. Also, the military-style slow forward march (aka "glide" step) is not the same as the toe-down lifting step. Just a horn fan, not a player-- Linda Wendell Rider wrote: OK, in the interests of getting back to the basics, I'm going to pose a question that everyone can chime in on. This seemed silly to me at first, but one of my students, a middle schooler, came in one day and told me her teacher was having them march by bringing the heel down first and rolling to the toe. The teacher actually shows them video tapes of other bands and has pointed out that the other bands are doing it wrong by using the old tried and true method of marching with the toes coming down first, thus lessening the shock. Now am i just hopelessly out of date, is this some new philosophy of marching, or is this teacher just completely nuts? It has had a detrimental effect on my student's playing and has really upset her. Frankly I don't see how they can march this way at all. I would say that It might be that my student just got it wrong, but she has demonstrated exactly how her teacher told her to do it. Sincerely, Wendell Rider For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the summer seminar, go to my website: www.wendellworld.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/linsherman%40tampabay.rr.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
