[Hornlist] Re: [horn] Il Trovatore: Cavatina Leonora - Ab Horn
Yes, I think the consensus and logical solution would be Ab bass. Thanks to all that replied. -Marc Cerri is thatIn a message dated 9/23/2006 10:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Howard Sanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then I'm sure it's A-flat basso, as in the third act of Falstaff. >A-flat alto makes no sense. > > Howard Sanner > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I don't have quick access to the score and I was wondering if anyone knows >> whether the Ab horn (IV part) in the "Cavatina Leonora" from "Il Trovatore" >> is Ab (LA b) alto or basso. I would normally read it as an alto >> transposition but that puts the 4th horn up to high B-flats and never below >> B-flat third space. Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Marc Cerri ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Reminder: Horn lectures in South Dakota and Iowa
Hello Everyone, I just thought I'd put out a reminder that I'm going to be giving two lectures on the Horn on September 26th and 27th, at the University of South Dakota and the University of Iowa respectively. Here are the dates, times, and locations. University of South Dakota 11:00am on Tuesday, September 26th, 2006 Colton Recital Hall of the College of Fine Arts 414 East Clark Street Vermillion, SD 57069 University of Iowa 12:30pm on Wednesday, September 27th, 2006 School of Music Voxman Music Building Choral Room (Rm. 1077) If anyone wants to come listen, you are more than welcome. I'll be talking mostly about some things that are generally not taught about the Horn in school, and I'll also touch on the inner workings of the Horn and brass instruments in general, as well as a bit about care and maintenance. Each lecture will be about 50 minutes long with some Q&A time at the end and afterwards. There's also the added opportunity to visit the National Music Museum at USD. They have lots of very nice instruments there to gawk at. Hope to see you there. Stuart A. de Haro, Custom Horns, Leadpipes, Brass Repair and Modification (217) 377-1462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deharohorns.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Strauss 1 Scoring
At 01:51 AM 9/24/2006 +, Christine Ranson wrote: >I need to know the orchestral scoring for Strauss 1, I've tried googling it but I can't seem to find it! In case anyone else is interested. Flute 1 and 2 Oboe 1 and 2 Clarinet in Bb 1 and 2 Bassoon 1 and 2 Horn in Eb 1 and 2 Trumpet in Eb 1 and 2 Timpani Solo Horn Violins 1 and 2 Viola Cello Bass John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Strauss 1 Scoring
On Sep 23, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Christine Ranson wrote: I need to know the orchestral scoring for Strauss 1 from www.lucksmusic.com: /2200, timp, str Dan Dan Phillips Associate Professor Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music University of Memphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Il Trovatore: Cavatina Leonora - Ab Horn
Bb Basso Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I don't have quick access to the score and I was wondering if anyone knows whether the Ab horn (IV part) in the "Cavatina Leonora" from "Il Trovatore" is Ab (LA b) alto or basso. I would normally read it as an alto transposition but that puts the 4th horn up to high B-flats and never below B-flat third space. Thanks in advance for your help. Marc Cerri ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/milton%40sitez.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Strauss 1 Scoring
Hello all, I need to know the orchestral scoring for Strauss 1, I've tried googling it but I can't seem to find it! Any help would be much appreciated! Chrissie _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Il Trovatore: Cavatina Leonora - Ab Horn
Hi All, I don't have quick access to the score and I was wondering if anyone knows whether the Ab horn (IV part) in the "Cavatina Leonora" from "Il Trovatore" is Ab (LA b) alto or basso. I would normally read it as an alto transposition but that puts the 4th horn up to high B-flats and never below B-flat third space. Thanks in advance for your help. Marc Cerri ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Terrorism report
With all due respect to colleague Carlberg, this is not the forum for this posting. The Jack Attack! (Whose name has nothing to do with terror or attacking-though the occasional PFC/LCpl/Cpl sometimes felt otherwise) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Terrorism Report
My standings on political and religious terrorism are well known by my surroundings. I will not out them in a horn forum. However I am that old, that I can remember several profession and conservatory level horn sections playing with a level of intonation, which I considered terror towards my ears. I very rarely hear such problems any more. The last time I profoundly objected to the intonation of a professional orchestral performance, the problem was about the low strings. Some of you may know, that I am also a recorder player. I yet have to hear a performance of the 4th Brandenburg Concerto, where the two recorders will play their long unisono notes totally in tune. Everybody apparently can do the pyrotechnics. And there is at least one "impossible" note. But hearing the playing of plain mid-range notes being in tune, that would be a new experience to my ears. Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre, who has not performed that concerto in public __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Terrorism Report
From my users group. ** As people have been saying: WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 - A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks. The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document. The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,'' it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe. An opening section of the report, "Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement," cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology. The report "says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse," said one American intelligence official. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/world/middleeast/24terror.html --John Hayes ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Schmid Bell on eBay
Just wanted to let you guys know I have a Medium 16 year old Schmid bell on eBay at _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270030324505_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270030324505) The auction ends around midnight Sunday night if anyone is interested on bidding. -William ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re:Pros and Cons of Fully Mechanical Main Valves?
subject: [Hornlist] Pros and Cons of Fully Mechanical Main Valves? I am considering buying a Conn horn (probably some type of 10D or 11D), since I'm interested in the Geyer wrap. One of the options I've noticed is for fully mechanical main valves. I was curious about what the pros and cons were of this; the idea sort of appeals to me if I understand it correctly (I remember it being kind of annoying when the string would come loose on my Holton H179), and apparently there isn't an additional cost for this. Can anyone tell me what downside, if any, there would be to choosing this option (other than the horn taking longer to be customized)? -Justin<< Justin, I have no gripes against modern ball and socket valves except for one tiny thing: I don't like the solid stop they provide at the end of the stroke. String valves hit the corks and give a little bit but mechanical ones really feel like they have hit a wall. I guess this isn't really much and I expect I could learn to live with it but it is a difference. LLBrown Laredo ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Pros and Cons of Fully Mechanical Main Valves?
The varying mechanical advantage issue with mechanical linkages is less of a problem with light rotors such as hollow rotors (Paxman?) or plastic (Finke). Now let's see. If I could design a linkage with higher mechanical advantage at the ends... It would also hit the bumpers with less force. Herb Foster --- Robert Osmun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Justin, > > Modern mechanical linkages, whether ball-and-socket or Mini-bal, are quick, > quiet, and virtually trouble free. The same can be said for a properly set > up string action. > > The big issue with mechanical linkages is the geometry. When the valve is > halfway open the angle between the lever and the linkage hinge is 90 degrees > and the mechanical advantage is greatest. As the rotor approaches the end of > its stroke the angle increases and the distance between the center line of > the rotor and that of the link decreases, decreasing with it the mechanical > advantage. (See Engelbert Schmid's article at > http://www.osmun.com/reference/string.html on this.) The result is an > initial resistance as the force of the finger has to overcome the lesser > mechanical advantage. The string linkage always pulls from 90 degrees so the > stroke is even. > > That having been said, many horns are built with mechanical linkage and many > players prefer it. > > Bob Osmun > www.osmun.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin > Higgins > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:14 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] Pros and Cons of Fully Mechanical Main Valves? > > I am considering buying a Conn horn (probably some type of 10D or 11D), > since I'm interested in the Geyer wrap. > > One of the options I've noticed is for fully mechanical main valves. > I was curious about what the pros and cons were of this; the idea sort of > appeals to me if I understand it correctly (I remember it being kind of > annoying when the string would come loose on my Holton H179), and apparently > there isn't an additional cost for this. > > Can anyone tell me what downside, if any, there would be to choosing this > option (other than the horn taking longer to be customized)? > > -Justin > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
