Re: [Hornlist] tiny differences
David Lamb wrote: Violinists say that persistent playing out of tune can damage a fine instrument... Yeah...the listener's ear. Linda ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Cryogenics
It is quite a different matter copying artisan products, mean producing multi replicas in high quality, or copying an artisan product have it work at the same precision. To explain: copyists can reproduce a high class horn, which looks exactly the same - if they have the necessary quality control in those countries. Copyists can copy technical parts of the horn, but if copying is just done without using ones own brain, the function will not be the same. What would the best drilling automat be worth, if the assembly line is filled with unmotivated (underpaid) thus careless housewives fixing the parts together with thread neglecting even to look at the single parts to check if they are all in order. And tell me, are there any automats prepared to assemble the entire horn ? I would order such an automat instantly, but would this automat ever amortisate (pay back the investment) ? Hopeless with the ever changing preferences of the customer. If the entire world would just play the single model of a pumpenhorn, perhaps. But if the investment has to come back within a few years time, these automats have to run 24 hours around the world market would be filled completely within a few months time. As automats seem to promise superb quality, all would be contraproductive, special if you see the number of orchestras dwindling, see interest in studying hard dwindling as well. Cause ? Yeah, the stupid mania of certain omnipotential media of any kind to preach gymn - gymn - build up muscles to look like Apollo (how about the brain ?? And we know the effect anabolicas have to the body special to some delicate parts, thus creating a new demand for some other special pills ) and buy the newest mobil, including navigator, translater, movies (these junk high school softies), MP3 (but searching for HiFi ?, calculator, so you can play everywhere you are . Really paranoic. Will make humans depending on the calculator (PC is not more) ... They even will forget how to read, as the machine will read any text for them .. We have a 2nd fiddle audition these days, but 15 female beat out 5 male candidates. And even our female colleagues want the things balanced, as the sound would be better (so they say !! Surprised ?). Male students ? Rare ? They prefer PC games. The cause as said above, comes from these youngster-fuzzies in the advertising industry, in the media and the grown up fuzzies, who are not one cent better. And these folks shall pay for our pension How would they be able to do it === ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Cryogenics
One thing I would LOVE to see in these blind tests (cryogenic) is the removal of the financial influence. I guarantee you that if someone pays a large amount for a repair on their horn - they'll be influenced to think that their instrument feels different. (Otherwise they'd be embarrassed to say they spent hundreds on their instrument for what some would call smoke and mirrors). Like I say, give me your horn and a few hundred dollars, and it will feel different. (tongue in cheek here). Wouldn't it be great if there really was something that was either only neutral or positive for your horn? (it won't make a bad horn worse, but it can make a good horn better???). Sincerely Ken Pope Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow http://www.poperepair.com US Dealer: Kuhn Horns ORIGINAL Bonna Cases Pope Instrument Repair 80 Wenham Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 617-522-0532 * ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Review of SF Symphony's Keeping Score
From Tuesday's New York Sun: http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=42613 BTW, if you watch the trailer for episode one (found here: http://www.keepingscore.org/) you'll see and hear what looks like the entire horn section playing the big melody from the last movement of Eroica. --John J Mason Charlottesville, Virginia DEMOCRACY OF SPEED, a Photo Documentary Project: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ds8s/john-m/john-m.html Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cry, Oh, genics!
David L wrote This is also a widespread belief among string players. Violinists say that persistent playing out of tune can damage a fine instrument and that an instrument played regularly by a master can only improve. * There is a small element of truth to this, for violins. Wood tends to get stiffer over time. Happens because wood is made of cellulose molecules, which are very long. The molecules link together through side branches. Over time, more of the side branches link, making the wood stiffer. If the wood is made to vibrate, some of the energy of vibration helps to unlink the side branches, making the wood less stiff. This is why people who buy ancient violins as investments arrange for the instruments to be played regularly, so that the wood can maintain its flexibility. None of this works for the horn, of course. Nor does it work for hornists, even though some of them contain large quantities of cellulite molecules. So really, there is no scientific reason for Prof. I.M. Gestopfmittscheisst to shake that thing, though he may, of course, continue to do so for the aesthetic pleasure it brings to him and his admirers. gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Dennis Brain and Acoustics
Joe, Can you explain this to me? It's not in my Farkas book... Jeanie From the Horn List: According to http://www.hornharmonics.com/Helpful_Hints.html , Dennis Brain used to sit the length of his horn uncurled (the site claims 12 ft. 9 in. ) from the nearest wall in order for his playing to have the best acoustics. This is a bit confusing to me, and I was wondering if anyone here could shed some light into /why/ this may have been effective. At first, I thought he was trying to minimize the amount of destructive interference and cancellation of the lower harmonics from the reflection off the wall; however, he would only have to stand approximately a quarter of the wavelength of the fundamental of the note he is playing away from the wall (assuming the wall is reasonably rigid, causing a phase flip upon reflection). And even so, this is if the bell of his horn is parallel with the wall behind him. Once the angle between the bell and the wall begins to increase, destructive interference becomes less and less of a problem for the lower harmonics (higher harmonics are less affected due to their relatively short wavelength). Of course, since harmonics whose wavelengths are comparable to the width of the bell (thus, lower harmonics) are refracted in all directions, would this even be perceptible to the audience? What could this exact distance of the length of the horn mean then? This would be the wavelength of the lowest harmonic on the French Horn, but this isn't often accessed in normal playing. These are just my thoughts on the matter, I would love to hear what others that are more educated think about this. Am I totally thinking about this in the wrong way? Thanks in advance, Adam Watts ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeanies01%40cox.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE:Telemann Concerto
As far as I know ,Telemann wrote , in addition to this concerto , a concerto for three horns , and a nice suite for two horns. Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Dennis Brain and Acoustics
Sorry List, wrong address. Joe, Can you explain this to me? It's not in my Farkas book... Jeanie From the Horn List: According to http://www.hornharmonics.com/Helpful_Hints.html , Dennis Brain used to sit the length of his horn uncurled (the site claims 12 ft. 9 in. ) from the nearest wall in order for his playing to have the best acoustics. This is a bit confusing to me, and I was wondering if anyone here could shed some light into /why/ this may have been effective. At first, I thought he was trying to minimize the amount of destructive interference and cancellation of the lower harmonics from the reflection off the wall; however, he would only have to stand approximately a quarter of the wavelength of the fundamental of the note he is playing away from the wall (assuming the wall is reasonably rigid, causing a phase flip upon reflection). And even so, this is if the bell of his horn is parallel with the wall behind him. Once the angle between the bell and the wall begins to increase, destructive interference becomes less and less of a problem for the lower harmonics (higher harmonics are less affected due to their relatively short wavelength). Of course, since harmonics whose wavelengths are comparable to the width of the bell (thus, lower harmonics) are refracted in all directions, would this even be perceptible to the audience? What could this exact distance of the length of the horn mean then? This would be the wavelength of the lowest harmonic on the French Horn, but this isn't often accessed in normal playing. These are just my thoughts on the matter, I would love to hear what others that are more educated think about this. Am I totally thinking about this in the wrong way? Thanks in advance, Adam Watts ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeanies01%40cox.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeanies01%40cox.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Telemann Works for Horn
Besides the Concerto in D for Horn and Strings, there are other interesting works. 1. Concerto a tre' for Flute, Horn, and Continuo (a very good initial piece for those interested in working with natural horn) 2. Concerto for Violin, 3 Horns, and Orchestra (this can be performed as a dual concerto, or trio sonata with the other horn parts omitted)-Very demanding and high 3. Sinfonia/Concerto in D for 4 Horns and String Orchestra Sincerely, Dr. Eldon Matlick, Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic 500 W Boyd Norman, OK 73019 (405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax Conn-Selmer Educational Artist http://ouhorns.com Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Telemann concertos, also 4 horn Suite.
In addition to the other works mentioned, Telemann also wrote a quite avant-gard Suite in F major, Four Horns, two oboes, and string orchestra. Eight movements, transfering some of the best known characters in Greek mythology to the banks of Alster. Alster's Echo is a movementGreat piece Matthew Scheffelman Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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[Hornlist] The Pope Effect
Ken wrote: I guarantee you that if someone pays a large amount for a repair on their horn - they'll be influenced to think that their instrument feels different. That's great, Ken, and gives us new hope. How much will you charge to fix my horn so that with my lips it can play the 1st horn part of Konzertstuck? Larry Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited (http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
