RE: [Hornlist] RE: Looking for other Pizka horns
There is another fact mentioned in this article, which is most importanmt: IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO BLOW AIR THROUGH THE HORN, JUST GIVE THE AIR THE RIGHT IMPULS, SO THE SOUND WAVE WILL TRAVEL THROUGH THE INSTRUMENT. That´s exactly what I said during all times of my horn playing life. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hurricane Chinooks Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:50 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Looking for other Pizka horns This is the only research that I know of concerning the effects of different finishes: http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke/Brass%20Clinic.html#Finis hes Joyce date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:17:33 +0200 from: "Alon reuven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What does silver plating or gold plating do to your horn? Alon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.6/770 - Release Date: 4/20/2007 6:43 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
I really think you should examine how you have described the horn on your own. "have found the workmanship of the Conns to be generally inferior (slides that don't fit well, awkward triggers & >grip configuration, etc.), " "the Conns' intonation lacking & the lower register on all of >them consistently weaker than all the competitors" Why fight all of those aspects? As described by Melvin it is a horn of use to be... The biggest champions of CONN no longer support it Myers, Betts, Bloom etc.. That speaks volumes as well. JMHP Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable? Valerie, "They don't make them like they used to" describes the history of the Conn8D quite well. I'm not their history expert, but I do know that the 1966 Conn horn I own was made in Elkhart, Indiana. But when the company moved, they changed enough of the horn to make it drastically inferior to what it used to be. It may have improved somewhat since then, but I do not know. Keep the dialogue going-I'm sure you will find some helpful info. Got to run! Melvin >From: "Valerie WELLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Horn List >To: horn@music.memphis.edu >Subject: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable? >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:55:08 -0700 > >I'm enjoying horn shopping & may take it up as a permanent hobby since it's >>so fun and I can't seem to settle on what I want to buy. AnywayCan >>someone please tell me what makes Conn horns desirable (especially the Conn >>8D)? I've looked at several different models of new Conns & other new >horns >of comparable price range & have found the workmanship of the Conns >to be >generally inferior (slides that don't fit well, awkward triggers & >grip >configuration, etc.), but the tone on all the Conns seemed equal or >superior >to their competitors (although it varied from instrument to >instrument). Can >anyone tell me what makes the tone of the Conn so nice? > >I was told by someone who should know (whose name I will not mention here) >>that the Conn 8D, ANY year, is the "only horn" he'd ever buy. Hmmm... I'd >>love to hear comments & discussion on this. > >I also found the Conns' intonation lacking & the lower register on all of >>them consistently weaker than all the competitors (but that could be due to >>my lack of familiarity with Conns). I found Yamaha horns to have excellent >>intonation and the notes seemed to just "pop" into place. Thanks in >advance >for your comments. ~Valerie > > >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >>http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwin%40hotmail.com _ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/xerocool9%40aol.com AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
--- Melvin Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Valerie, > "They don't make them like they used to" describes > the history of the Conn8D > quite well. I'm not their history expert, but I do > know that the 1966 Conn > horn I own was made in Elkhart, Indiana. But when > the company moved, they > changed enough of the horn to make it drastically > inferior to what it used > to be. I would argue that the Texas horns and the new 8D's are not "drastically inferior" to the Elkhart Conns, but "drastically more inconsistant." I have an (early) Texas 8D that I'd put up against most 8D's, of any vintage. While the worksmanship isn't great (I've had two solder joints pop on the horn in the year I've owned it), it still plays very well. Most importantly for me, it cost a bunch less than any comparable horn (8D or otherwise) I've blown on since, probabally because of its Texas heritage. And yes, I am a fan of the 8D sound. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
Valerie, "They don't make them like they used to" describes the history of the Conn8D quite well. I'm not their history expert, but I do know that the 1966 Conn horn I own was made in Elkhart, Indiana. But when the company moved, they changed enough of the horn to make it drastically inferior to what it used to be. It may have improved somewhat since then, but I do not know. Keep the dialogue going-I'm sure you will find some helpful info. Got to run! Melvin From: "Valerie WELLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:55:08 -0700 I'm enjoying horn shopping & may take it up as a permanent hobby since it's so fun and I can't seem to settle on what I want to buy. AnywayCan someone please tell me what makes Conn horns desirable (especially the Conn 8D)? I've looked at several different models of new Conns & other new horns of comparable price range & have found the workmanship of the Conns to be generally inferior (slides that don't fit well, awkward triggers & grip configuration, etc.), but the tone on all the Conns seemed equal or superior to their competitors (although it varied from instrument to instrument). Can anyone tell me what makes the tone of the Conn so nice? I was told by someone who should know (whose name I will not mention here) that the Conn 8D, ANY year, is the "only horn" he'd ever buy. Hmmm... I'd love to hear comments & discussion on this. I also found the Conns' intonation lacking & the lower register on all of them consistently weaker than all the competitors (but that could be due to my lack of familiarity with Conns). I found Yamaha horns to have excellent intonation and the notes seemed to just "pop" into place. Thanks in advance for your comments. ~Valerie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwin%40hotmail.com _ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
Just a small tip for your new hobby; I've never even touched a Conn so I can't say much about that, but I've tried several Yamaha and Hoyer horns. If you like Yamaha instruments I'd say that Hoyer is a good chance too, at least worth testing. The prof modells from hoyer is amacingly good compared to the price (at least here in Europe). Hoyer has had their problems with tight A'' s and other things, but it isn't a problem anymore, they have improved much and there is a great difference between the old horns and what they make today. All the instruments I've tried has been surprisingly good, both intonation and slides, valves and such, and I've not found any horns with the old "classical" problems that Hoyer used some time to get rid of. I bought a 5801 in red brass not so long ago and is very happy with it, especialy the low register and the lovely soft sound. I have friends who play on 6801 (I have heard someone call it hoyer's copy of the 8D, but I'm not sure) and they have only good things to say about it. The top models from Hoyer (and Yamaha) is a nice alternative for us who don't have the money to buy nice Paxman horns or other expencive instruments. Much horn for the money, to say it that way. On 22/04/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Valerie, do check out the Holton Merker Matic in both nickel and rose brass. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/trude.johansen%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
If you haven't tried the Holton Merker models your search won't be complete. My bias is that I loved mine (no longing playing) and also owned an 8D in the past. - Original Message - From: "Valerie WELLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable? I'm enjoying horn shopping & may take it up as a permanent hobby since it's so fun and I can't seem to settle on what I want to buy. AnywayCan someone please tell me what makes Conn horns desirable (especially the Conn 8D)? I've looked at several different models of new Conns & other new horns of comparable price range & have found the workmanship of the Conns to be generally inferior (slides that don't fit well, awkward triggers & grip configuration, etc.), but the tone on all the Conns seemed equal or superior to their competitors (although it varied from instrument to instrument). Can anyone tell me what makes the tone of the Conn so nice? I was told by someone who should know (whose name I will not mention here) that the Conn 8D, ANY year, is the "only horn" he'd ever buy. Hmmm... I'd love to hear comments & discussion on this. I also found the Conns' intonation lacking & the lower register on all of them consistently weaker than all the competitors (but that could be due to my lack of familiarity with Conns). I found Yamaha horns to have excellent intonation and the notes seemed to just "pop" into place. Thanks in advance for your comments. ~Valerie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
Valerie, do check out the Holton Merker Matic in both nickel and rose brass. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
I'm enjoying horn shopping & may take it up as a permanent hobby since it's so fun and I can't seem to settle on what I want to buy. AnywayCan someone please tell me what makes Conn horns desirable (especially the Conn 8D)? I've looked at several different models of new Conns & other new horns of comparable price range & have found the workmanship of the Conns to be generally inferior (slides that don't fit well, awkward triggers & grip configuration, etc.), but the tone on all the Conns seemed equal or superior to their competitors (although it varied from instrument to instrument). Can anyone tell me what makes the tone of the Conn so nice? I was told by someone who should know (whose name I will not mention here) that the Conn 8D, ANY year, is the "only horn" he'd ever buy. Hmmm... I'd love to hear comments & discussion on this. I also found the Conns' intonation lacking & the lower register on all of them consistently weaker than all the competitors (but that could be due to my lack of familiarity with Conns). I found Yamaha horns to have excellent intonation and the notes seemed to just "pop" into place. Thanks in advance for your comments. ~Valerie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Looking for other Pizka horns
This is the only research that I know of concerning the effects of different finishes: http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke/Brass%20Clinic.html#Finishes Joyce date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:17:33 +0200 from: "Alon reuven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What does silver plating or gold plating do to your horn? Alon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.6/770 - Release Date: 4/20/2007 6:43 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Looking for other Pizka horns
Makes it look more beautiful, you care more about avoiding dents, sound gets a bit more brilliant - at least for me. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alon reuven Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:18 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Looking for other Pizka horns What does silver plating or gold plating do to your horn ? Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Looking for other Pizka horns
In a message dated 21/04/2007 16:18:25 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "What does silver plating or gold plating do to your horn ? Alon" Makes it more expensive Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Concerto announcement
Sorry for the late notice. This weekend Saturday April 21st @ 8 p.m. & Sunday April 22nd @ 3 p.m. I will be performing the 3rd Horn concerto of L. F. Dauprat with the Nexen Regina Symphony Chamber Players on our Government House series. In Regina Saskatchewan Canada. My performances will be on Natural horn in E. I reduced the orchestration for our small group. I am quite sure this is a Canadian premiere. I dont know of any other performance of the work ever. The Dauprat Concerti were probably too hard for the hornist, to make it into the standard repertoire for horn back when they were written around 1818. For those of you that cant make it. I am revising Naturalhorn.com to feature a recording of this Concerto in a horn & piano version. When my site goes from green to blue it will be there. For now, you might want to hear my old recording of the Dauprat Grand Sextet #6 which you can hear on the What Playing section on the left. This recording is my old recording of that, and not the version that will be on CD soon. I will be changing the site completely really soon! Richard Burdick Naturalhorn.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Looking for other Pizka horns
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