Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Triple
Save your money and buy a Paxman. They have been the most consistent triples I have played. Sincerely, Martin Bender On 15-Aug-07, at 11:00 PM, Luke Zyla wrote: Has anyone played a Yamaha Triple? What do you think? Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/embee%40magma.ca ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist]CSO name Horn Quartet Album
As an aside ... There were numerous groups within the orchestra that used the CSO name for their group. In some cases not all the members of the group were part of the orchestra. In the late 70's or there about the management and orchestra agreed, as part of collective bargaining, that the name usage would stop in return for management booking additional concerts for small ensembles and for the orchestra in a program called members of . Groups in existence were grandfathered in. Which might explain the personel on the album . Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2007, at 12:37 AM, sheldon kirshner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never, I think. Leuba was principal with the CSO for a couple of seasons, under Reiner I believe; Brouk, who had an absolutely gorgeous sound, took over principal for a season or two, from the section, but didn't seek it, Wayne Barrington played 3rd, I believe, for some time--he played, to my recollection, a Conn 28D--the second horn through all of this was Wedgewood, who is not listed. Shel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Herrick Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:39 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album I just bought a horn quartet album on ebay. Members of the Chicago Symphony. It's got Christopher Lauba, Paul Binstock, Wayne Barrington, Robert Wirth and Frank Brouk (presently solo horn) No date. Anyone know when this was the horn section? A closer reading of the back seems to indicate that the are not all members of CSO. Lauba was Professor of Music in Puerto Rico, Wirth has played in Minneapolis six seasons; Binstock teaches music in Roseville Minnesota. Maybe only Barrington and Brouk are CSO? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skirshner%40ameritech.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jasoncat%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Triple
Actually Yamaha triples are quite nice and very consistent, just a bit on the heavy side, and not as much options as paxman, but changing the high-f tuning slide reciever to one from Paxman will improve the triples and descants by quite a lot. Seemed more efficient and centered. Tim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: martin bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Triple Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:32:36 -0400 Save your money and buy a Paxman. They have been the most consistent triples I have played. Sincerely, Martin Bender On 15-Aug-07, at 11:00 PM, Luke Zyla wrote: Has anyone played a Yamaha Triple? What do you think? Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/embee%40magma.ca ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tim_vg%40techemail.com _ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] pronunciation of Yancich
it's pronounced Yan' sitch Paul Mansur On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Mark Syslo wrote: I am proud to use Mr. Yancich's books with my private students. They are very well done. I commonly refer to all of my private students' books by the author, but I suspect I'm messing up Mr. Yancich's name. Pronounced Yan sich, or Yan chich? MJS ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha Triple
Yup - owned one for a couple years around 2001-2003. (an 891) I loved it. It played quite nicely in all registers. The sound was a little on the small side, but it was very flexible. It was tough to get used to the weight of the instrument, but once I did, I had no issues with it. When I bought it from Chuck Levins, they had 2 and I tried them both (my friend bought the other one). They were very similar. If presented with the opportunity to buy it back, I almost certainly would! (In fact, the gentleman to whom I sold it put it on hornplayer.net this time last year. I was trying to scrounge up the money to buy it back from him then.) Again, I rarely used the high F side, but the double portion of the horn was fabulous. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Zyla Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:00 PM To: Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha Triple Has anyone played a Yamaha Triple? What do you think? Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.c om No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 9:48 AM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn Quartet Album
John Dutton wrote: Principal Horns of CSO: Dutschke (1891-1895) Ketz (1895-1896) De Mare, L (1896-1922) Hoss, W (22-23) Frank, W (23-27) ? Farkas (36-41) Helen Kotas (41-47) Farkas (48-60) Leuba (60-62) Brouk (62-63) Van Norman (63-65) Brouk (65-66) Clevenger (66-) You're missing Pellegrino Lecce (1927-1936). ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Custom slide for 70's Alex
Hi, Steve wrote: I'm trying to get a price on an F-extension to be used in place of the stopping valve tubing of my 5-valve Bb single horn. I'm curious - I've seen horns with this kind of F extension. How are the acoustics of the horn affected by the addition of such a long (presumably) cylindrical section of tube? I would have thought that a disproportionate amount of the F-horn would be cylindrical. Anny comments? Regards, Graham -- Jag använder gratisversionen av SPAMfighter för privata användare. 1067 spam har blivit blockerade hittills. Betalande användare har inte detta meddelande i sin e-post. Hämta gratis SPAMfighter här: http://www.spamfighter.com/lsv ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Embouchure frustrations
Hey Friends - Please pardon me as I bring up yet another embouchure topic and pardon me further if the e-mail is dreadfully long. For the past 20+ years, I have played with a VERY funky embouchure. This is due mostly to a few significant injuries. The first of which was the destruction of one of my two front teeth. A portion of the real tooth still remains, but a permanent crown fills out the rest. The second injury was an infection in my ear which pinched a nerve in my face and caused the right side of my face to go dead temporarily (for about a month). Both of these injuries occurred early in my life (12 and 14 years of age respectively). Through college and beyond, I did just fine with my messed up embouchure - making do and getting some decent jobs out of the deal. However, very recently, my embouchure has simply stopped working. Some days it's fine, others it's not. Compound that with the fact that my crown was knocked out recently and reset it seems to be a good time to start over. I've read Wendell's book (borrowed copy - I'm ordering my own copy later this week) as well as the Farkas books and am trying to start over. It's in this process where I have SEVERAL questions. First, I have posted a few pictures to which I'll provide some links including my old embouchure and 2 new approaches that I've been working on. Second, I'd like to describe the process through which I've gone recently as well as the pitfalls I've encountered and see if anyone has significant advice. I read the recent embouchure posts very carefully with great interest and have used those as guides as well. So, here goes - My old embouchure relied on me rolling out my bottom lip and setting quite low in my upper lip (the top of the red slightly visible above the mouthpiece). Due to these very odd compromises, the corners of my mouth grew incredibly strong as did my upper lip. However, I think that is working against me quite a bit right now! (Here's a pic of my old embouchure: HYPERLINK http://www.sublymerecords.com/emb/emb_a.jpghttp://www.sublymerecords.c om/emb/emb_a.jpg ) The first approach that I've taken is to use Wendell's set on the bottom and lift into place method from his book. This seems to work acceptably well and is very repeatable and consistent. However, it is obviously incredibly difficult considering the dramatic shift from previous embouchures. I ended up with the following placement: HYPERLINK http://www.sublymerecords.com/emb/emb_b.jpghttp://www.sublymerecords.c om/emb/emb_b.jpg Again, this seems to work acceptably well and I'm willing to put the time and effort into learning this correctly, but I still think I'm doing something wrong. I can't get an air seal with this embouchure above a 3rd space c and thus can only go to maybe the adjacent d. I'm afraid my corners are pulling too hard and thus creating flat lips. I'm also noticing some intense pressure on the teeth. Not painful (and certainly less than my previous embouchure) but different than before and thus noticeable. Upon doing more reading and investigating, I've started to modulate a little bringing the lips more forward (towards a pucker but obviously not a full pucker). Picture: HYPERLINK http://www.sublymerecords.com/emb/emb_c.jpghttp://www.sublymerecords.c om/emb/emb_c.jpg As you can see, the air seal is much better, but with this embouchure, I get tired inside of 3 to 5 minutes of moderate playing and find it a little more difficult to keep a low chin. A colleague of mine was working with me and was suggesting that as my embouchure tightens, the corners should move somewhat downwards (kind of like a frown). No matter how hard I try this, I simply cannot get this to happen. I can pull my corners back with no problem at all, but down just won't happen. Additionally, I find that I get a rather strong double buzz in the process of working through the embouchure change - particularly in the middle low register (between middle c and pedal c). Any advice or thoughts would be dearly welcome. I am at a total loss and submit myself entirely to your care! If there's anyone in the Northern VA / DC area who would be willing to work with me on this, I'd obviously be willing to pay the studio fees. Sincerely, Jeremy Cucco No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 9:48 AM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Triples
Hi all, For the past 30 years I was a double horn player . Now I play a triple . in order to choose it I have tryed Yamaha , paxman , Alex , schmid and kuhn . I found out that the Yamaha is a very well made horn , but it does not have a very good low register . I , personally do not like the Yamaha sound - it does not seem to br flexible enough for me . The Alexander which I have tryed seem to be good but yet it did not have a responce I liked . At least the one which I have tryed had too much resisstence . The Paxman is a very good instrument but yet , it is extremly heavy , and would fit , in my opinion , only for orchestral use . It felt like operating a machine . I have visited both in the kuhn and schmid workshops . (I would sper you enthusiastic descriptions , But just visiting such a workshop is an experience ) schmid horns are wonderfully made . I have tryed an E flat triple along side with two high f triples . The E flat triple was very good. I was pretty sure that I would pick it up . But then , when I have tryed the kuhn , with its great low register , and all three sides of the horn are balanced - I decided to pay the price of 2900 kg .- not much for a triple horn , but more than the Schmid , which wheigh pretty much like double horn . I think that kuhn , as of today , is a very dynamic firm , and in the last show in Switzerland , Ricco kuhn has presented a Quatro horn - a horn which can be switched between high F and High Eb . The question is what would one like to do with his q her new triple .all around horn , just like a double ? symphonic ?Are you a very good low horn player , and need some more security in the high register ? take care , Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
