[Hornlist] Re:Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread V�lim�ki

Also a lot of fun with natural horn, and much much easier!
Playing it next week.

Jaakko Välimäki
Lappland Chamber Orchestra
Finland

 from: hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 subject: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A
 
 What is so difficult with this symphony ? I have received
 several stories about it, that it is feared very much  horn
 players are just happy when the horns are back in their
 case. Yes, off course, it is a difficult piece, IF PLAYED ON
 THE REGULAR BIG HORNS. But this symphony - I nicknamed it
 THE UNAVOIDABLE - is a standard for every professional
 chamber orchestra, which required a very light sound from
 the horns. To day we have the right instruments to produce
 this very special silvery sound: the single high-F horn. 
 
 But if you are not familiar with the F-horn fingerings 
 finger it one octave lower, you might go to hell playing
 this symphony. But if you are at home with the F-horn
 fingerchart - at home means, that you can play these things
 even fold blind - then there should not be any difficulty. I
 have played it between 250-  500-times with various chamber
 orchestras ( gave up counting)  earned a lot of money with
 it. It was great fun allwaysd  the conductors very scared
 BEFORE the audience. Wonderful music, but after that
 mantimes it has become difficult to bear the earworm
 beginning from the first movement.



  

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[Hornlist] Dennis Brain anniversary

2007-08-20 Thread hans
Hello friends, colleagues, horn students, horn fans,

May I remind you to the coming 50th anniversary of Dennis
Brains tragic early death at age 36 early monrning on
Sept.1st, 1957, when driving home after a performance of
Tchaikovski´s Sixth (pathetique) on August 31st, 1957 in
Edinburgh. He had refused giving Richard Mereweather (the
genious horn designer for Paxman) a ride as if he felt
something. Anyway D.B. was much overworked  really
exhausted which might have resulted  finally that he fell
into one so called sleep of a mini second.

We - means Luca Benucci, Dale Clevenger  myself - just
dedicated the mini-symposium of three days we held in
Sicily, we dedicated it to the memory of D.B. It is not a
shame to tell you, that we both - Dale  me - came to tears
when we told the listeners about our feelings when we got
the terrible notice of the accident. Dale was 17 then, I was
not yet 15 1/2. I remember that I just had played my first
Mozart 4 with the orchestra I played as a professional then.
It was four days after, when I heard the terrible news.
Dennis Brains Mozart concertos was our only horn record we
owned, Dale  me.

Well, if you admire Dennis Brain as we do, you should be
interested into the DVD I prepared  which is scheduled to
be ready for shipping at the anniversary. If you are
interested, send me a simple note with no other text than
Brain DVD as the topic. You will receive a pdf file with
full details  inlay card.

I know, this is shameless advertising, but it might be of
great interest for a multitude of horn players, old  young,
students, amateurs or prfessionals.


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RE: [Hornlist] Re:Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread hans
But how about the written f2 (concert d2)  Intonation ?
Must be PERFECT . A mini-flip by the right hand  it is
corrected.  Try this signal playing standing  with quite
open bell. That is a superb effect, perhaps wanted by
Mozart.

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Also a lot of fun with natural horn, and much much easier!
Playing it next week.

Jaakko Välimäki
Lappland Chamber Orchestra
Finland

 from: hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 subject: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A
 
 What is so difficult with this symphony ? I have received
several 
 stories about it, that it is feared very much  horn
players are just 
 happy when the horns are back in their case. Yes, off
course, it is a 
 difficult piece, IF PLAYED ON THE REGULAR BIG HORNS. But
this symphony 
 - I nicknamed it THE UNAVOIDABLE - is a standard for
every 
 professional chamber orchestra, which required a very
light sound from 
 the horns. To day we have the right instruments to produce
this very 
 special silvery sound: the single high-F horn.
 
 But if you are not familiar with the F-horn fingerings 
finger it one 
 octave lower, you might go to hell playing this symphony.
But if you 
 are at home with the F-horn fingerchart - at home means,
that you can 
 play these things even fold blind - then there should not
be any 
 difficulty. I have played it between 250-  500-times with
various 
 chamber orchestras ( gave up counting)  earned a lot of
money with 
 it. It was great fun allwaysd  the conductors very scared
BEFORE the 
 audience. Wonderful music, but after that mantimes it has
become 
 difficult to bear the earworm
 beginning from the first movement.



 


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Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread Jonathan West
On 20/08/07, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jonathan, you are absolutely right. Today´s young  less
 young players are much better prepared - technically - than
 we were or are, but they miss the music all too often or
 completely. Everything needs to be set up, nothing from
 the heart, nothing naturally (with few exceptions, by far
 not enough exceptions !).


I suspect that has been true of young players throughout the ages,
with rare exceptions. I think it is perhaps unfair to complain that
young players lack a maturity which requires age and experience they
have not yet had an opportunity to acquire.

For instance, I learned Strauss 2 while I was at college. At least, I
learned the notes. Quite frankly I couldn't make head or tail of it
musically, particularly the first movement (though I lacked the
maturity at the time to fully realise the fact).

A couple of years ago, I was asked to participate in a performance of
the Sonatina for Wind Happy Workshop, which was another of Strauss's
Indian Summer pieces. And as I listened to it and practiced my part,
and as we rehearsed it I gradually felt I understood better what
Strauss was on about. I listened to several other of his late works
and gained insight from them as well. I suspect that years of playing
and listening to much other music has also contributed. I don't think
it is possible to understand Strauss without also having listened
extensively to Mozart, Schumann, Wagner, Bruckner and Mahler, among
others.

Now, 25 years on from when I first learned the concerto, I think I
could now manage a fairly musical performance of it. Of course, as an
amateur player I'm not likely ever to be asked to perform it! But that
doesn't bother me. It is enough to know that I have learned enough
that I could give it a go, even though there is always more still to
learn.

Regards
Jonathan West
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RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread hans
Jonathan, I studied Strauss 2 when I was seventeen - well, I
studied it with the first performer, my teacher Gootfried
von Freiberg (we spent just just two weeks with it, means
two or thre lessons) and I played it in public at age 18, no
near 19. My first performance with orchestra was 1964. This
performance has been recorded secretly by my father  I
found the tape after his death so I produced it on CD, all
played on single F Pumpenhorn. As I began my music studies
at age 4 with violin, at age 9 adopting viola  horn too,
exposed to orchestra playing  professional playing  solo,
I think I did it mature. But I am not the surveyors rod of
all things. With this performance Oct. 1964 I am within the
list of the first ten soloists of this piece. 

May I include some interesting info for you as pdf file. It
is a shameless advertising.

Kindest greetings

Hans


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[Hornlist] RE: Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread Alon reuven
Hans is allmost there - I do think that one may use a high F horn , but not
single , but double .I mean , Bb/Hi F.and because you may use it right on
the F# on the top of the staff , you would have no hard time with the
fingerings . As for the sound - just follow your ear , and  your body would
guide you properly .
Alon
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RE: [Hornlist] RE: Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread hans
Your problem is, that you are used to Bb fingering, while I
prefer the F-fingering, so high F fingering is ZERO problem.
On the Bb horn you miss the great opportunity to avoid
finger-squeezing for the ##-tonalities, haha.

If you like a bit stronger sound, use the Bb-high F but
removing the Bb-slides. It works superbly  is a compromise.

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Hans is allmost there - I do think that one may use a high F
horn , but not single , but double .I mean , Bb/Hi F.and
because you may use it right on the F# on the top of the
staff , you would have no hard time with the fingerings . As
for the sound - just follow your ear , and  your body would
guide you properly .
Alon
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