Re: [Hornlist] Kruspe horn- last call

2007-11-18 Thread Dan Phillips

On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Hunt,Thomas wrote:

Try the hornplayer first. Talk to Ken Pope and te Brss Arts  
Unlimited folks first.



This gives me an opportunity to plug the newly redesigned IHS Online  
web site, which includes a new and vastly improved marketplace, where  
members can buy, sell and trade instruments and equipment.


http://www.hornsociety.org/component/option,com_marketplace/Itemid,60/

Dan


Dan Phillips
Website Manager
International Horn Society
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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread rob schmidtke
every instrument has these problems, piccolo in tchaik 4, triangle in Wagner 
Tanhouser overture, Contrabassoon in Beethoven 9, and just think per note how 
much you are being payed, more than your three buddies.
Rob

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found playing in the pit is fun and builds 
endurance. I am in the middle of a 30 show run of "Oliver" at our local theater 
group in Gainesville, Florida. The part is challanging because only a small 
ensemble is playing and I have to play the horn 1 or 2 part and also play parts 
of Trombone 1, Bassoon, Cello, and Trumpet 2. My part has a lot of paste up 
inserts in it. So it ends up with two hours of pretty steady playing iusing 
three mutes and stopped horn. And the range is from G, bottom line of bass clef 
staff to high C (fortunately only one note). Love it. Regards.
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RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe horn- last call

2007-11-18 Thread Hunt,Thomas
Try the hornplayer first. Talk to Ken Pope and te Brss Arts Unlimited folks 
first.
 
Is it a single f or Bb?
 
tom in iowa



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Sent: Sun 11/18/2007 9:15 PM
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Subject: [Hornlist] Kruspe horn- last call



Hi Everyone,

Due to sudden crisis in our lives other things are more important to us right 
now I have decided to sell my battered Kruspe single horn.  I know eBay is 
unconventional for professional horn people. I'm just letting you know if this 
is allowed.  That is where I occasionally sell a few things to put food on the 
table and the like.  I'm sure most of you that are looking for Kruspe horns 
probably check out eBay but just in case you don't

D.M.M.

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[Hornlist] Kruspe horn- last call

2007-11-18 Thread Dawn McCandless
Hi Everyone, 

Due to sudden crisis in our lives other things are more important to us right 
now I have decided to sell my battered Kruspe single horn.  I know eBay is 
unconventional for professional horn people. I'm just letting you know if this 
is allowed.  That is where I occasionally sell a few things to put food on the 
table and the like.  I'm sure most of you that are looking for Kruspe horns 
probably check out eBay but just in case you don't

D.M.M.

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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread dalleyhn
I have found playing in the pit is fun and builds endurance. I am in the middle 
of a 30 show run of "Oliver" at our local theater group in Gainesville, 
Florida. The part is challanging because only a small ensemble is playing and I 
have to play the horn 1 or 2 part and also play parts of Trombone 1, Bassoon, 
Cello, and Trumpet 2. My part has a lot of paste up inserts in it. So it ends 
up with two hours of pretty steady playing iusing three mutes and stopped horn. 
And the range is from G, bottom line of bass clef staff to high C (fortunately 
only one note). Love it. Regards.
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Re: [Hornlist] Elliot Carter Horn Concerto

2007-11-18 Thread Richard V. West
Chacun a son gout...I guess. Nevertheless, I thought the whole point of 
blowing the horn was to make music, so doesn't talking about music have 
a place on this list? Comparing the various attributes of valve oil 
makes for interesting chit-chat, now and then, but I don't think that 
it's an end in itself, do you? What's the point of playing that high f 
above c without a musical context? Might as well take up weight lifting.


I'm an old reprobate. I didn't like Schoenberg until the first time I 
played a Schoenberg composition. Ditto Webern and Petrassi. I didn't 
think much of Berio until a trombonist friend of mine, Stu Dempster, 
performed---and I do mean "performed"---a Berio piece. While I still 
would rather play anything by Brahms or Mozart or [insert name of 
favorite composer here] in comparison to some contemporary composers, 
the fact remains that our instrument is being presented with new 
challenges that are certainly worth discussing.


Richard in Seattle

Susan Thompson wrote:

I agree that valve oil is more interesting...even when I'm playing natural
horn.

--Susan Thompson

Kendall Betts wrote:

Personally, I don't care much for Elliot Carter's music.  Valve oil  and
it's related subjects are more interesting.  Anybody agree?
 
KB
 


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Re: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Shipping horns

2007-11-18 Thread Simon Varnam

Another suggestion:

Don't send the horn "and case", send the horn in a "specially designed 
transportation apparatus" with strict instructions that the contents 
must not be touched with the bare hands, and must be kept in a 
pressurised (~1000hPa) atmosphere of 80% nitrogen at all times or else 
they will ...( add your own scary consequence). Horn players will know 
that most manufacturers supply these devices with the instrument.


But seriously, what do they do with items that will seriously damage 
the customs inspector if opened without due precautions? Call the bomb 
squad?


Simon

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RE: [Hornlist] Elliot Carter Horn Concerto

2007-11-18 Thread Susan Thompson
I agree that valve oil is more interesting...even when I'm playing natural
horn.

--Susan Thompson

Kendall Betts wrote:

Personally, I don't care much for Elliot Carter's music.  Valve oil  and
it's related subjects are more interesting.  Anybody agree?
 
KB
 

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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread Paul Mansur

It's the composer's option.  S(he) wanted it to sound that way.

Paul Mansur

On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My part was 4th.  Why do they do that  And so many measures  
rest!!!

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RE: [Hornlist] Elliot Carter Horn Concerto

2007-11-18 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> Personally, I don't care much for Elliot Carter's music.  
> Valve oil  and it's related subjects are more interesting.  
> Anybody agree?

Yes, his music has never done much for me, either.  And that said, a horn
forum isn't the only place one can discuss music and music making, but it is
the only place to discuss those things unique to the horn.

-S-

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[Hornlist] Re: Re:Ethical dilemma - how to pack a horn for delivery

2007-11-18 Thread Steven Mumford


I've taken it to the extreme and just made several VERY long driving trips 
to pick up horns.  I didn't want to take the chance that some irreplaceable 
vintage parts might get damaged.  The upside is, I got to sightsee some very 
nice parts of the country.  
  I'm getting perilously close to my 1,000th eBay sale (989 tonight) and 
I've never had any trouble with any of the shipping companies.  I'm knocking on 
wood.  I try to pack things so they can be dropped a couple of stories without 
getting hurt because I figure they WILL do that.  I've shipped everthing from 
metal alto clarinets to sousaphones.  
  I'm liking the post office lately because I can print out the shipping 
label online and then just drop it off at the back door of the post office, no 
questions asked and no waiting, they know me there. 
   
  - Steve Mumford   
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[Hornlist] Elliot Carter Horn Concerto

2007-11-18 Thread KendallBetts
 
Personally, I don't care much for Elliot Carter's music.  Valve oil  and it's 
related subjects are more interesting.  Anybody agree?
 
KB
 
Peter H. writes: 

am  always struck by how little interest this sort of thing seems to generate 
on  this (memphis) list (as opposed to carrying instruments onto planes, gig 
bags,  sore chops, who can supply a recital blurb on Hindemith, changing 
mpces.,  finding a piece that includes horn and - fill in the blank - and down 
the  
liet), but I really have no theory as to why. I don't mean to carp (well,  
maybe a little whitefish would be nice); I'm just  perplexed.







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RE: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread epstein
You are so right.  If the third horn pokes you in time for you to come in, you 
don't really have to count the rests and can simply enjoy the opera!
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RE: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread hans
These many rests give you the opportunity to listen to the
other voices in the orchestra & the singers on stage. A good
opportunity to learn !!


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My part was 4th.  Why do they do that  And so many
measures rest!!!
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RE: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread hans
Blah, blah, blah - when attempting to play in the pit, one
should be prepared with all kind of transpositions - but
long before 



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You should play Aida (third or fourth part) with no F and
all other possible transpositions.  It was a nachtmare for a
nineteen year old.

-- Original message from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> Just finished playing "Rigoletto." Talk about
transporsing, ugh! Ab, 
> Bb, D, C, E, B, A and on and on! Only one part in F and I
almost blew it!!
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[Hornlist] RE: Soundwear

2007-11-18 Thread David Goldberg

Simon Varnam wrote:

You've got it the wrong way round!
Oil is sold in barrels so you can put your horn IN one before shipping 
it.

Even if the ship sinks the oil will keep it afloat and rust-free.



Indeed so.  Not only was this good advice known to the ancients, but it 
comes from a reliable source.


1 Samuel 16:1 sez:

The LORD said to Samuel: "How long will you grieve for Saul, whom I have 
rejected as king of Israel? Fill your horn with oil, and be on your way. ...



   {  David Goldberg:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  }
   { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
 { Ann Arbor Michigan }

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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread epstein
My part was 4th.  Why do they do that  And so many measures rest!!!
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[Hornlist] Graudate Study

2007-11-18 Thread dlundeen
Graduate Horn Opportunities for 2008-09

Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ (close to NYC and Philadelphia)

1 or 2 MM - Awards up to full tuition plus $4K
1 or 2 DMA or Artist Diploma - Tuition plus minimum $6K

Instruction in orchestra, chamber, solo and original instrument. Studio
will provide Baroque and Classical natural horns by Lowell Greer and
Richard Seraphinoff. Good freelance playing opportunities.

Contact: Douglas Lundeen, Prof. of Horn - [EMAIL PROTECTED] rutgers.edu




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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread jamesarthurkirk
You should play Aida (third or fourth part) with no F and all other possible 
transpositions.  It was a nachtmare for a nineteen year old.

-- Original message from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- 


> Just finished playing "Rigoletto." Talk about transporsing, ugh! Ab, Bb, D, 
> C, 
> E, B, A and on and on! Only one part in F and I almost blew it!! 
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RE: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread hans
But very simple text to read. Next time: just read in the
other tonalities. Studying scales & chords helps a lot. 

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Just finished playing "Rigoletto."  Talk about transporsing,
ugh!  Ab, Bb, D, C, E, B, A and on and on!  Only one part in
F and I almost blew it!!
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Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread epstein
Just finished playing "Rigoletto."  Talk about transporsing, ugh!  Ab, Bb, D, 
C, E, B, A and on and on!  Only one part in F and I almost blew it!!
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[Hornlist] Travel in Nepal pt.2

2007-11-18 Thread hans
Well, from Kathmandu we flew to the strangest airport, Lukla
(you find it in YouTube). Watch the landing & departure to
know all about. But we felt not that dramatic, except when
we flew back to Kathmandu & got the last flight around noon,
when the clouds had begun to fog everything. But all went
smooth. The first two days where hard somewhat with 8 hours
walking per day, but what kind of walking ? Down for 350
meters in altitude from initial 2880 meters. Up again for
300 m, a first hanging bridge of some 150 m length, some 50
m above ground & a bit swinging. But after the first bridge
crossing, we became used until the very long bridge 150 m
above ground, just before the strenuous very steep ascend to
Namche Bazaar (3.550 m) with a climb of 750 m, very narrow
path & extremely steep sides, nearly free fall for 800 m.
And the millions of stone steps, some high 40 cms (16"). The
knees very forced to obey my commands, but sometimes
painful, special when walking down. Well, one valley
followed the other until we reached this bridge (no.16 !!).

Namche Bazaar, a bigger settlement, the entry point to the
MtEverest region. Weather was at best, we had not a single
rain drop for six weeks. Namche was just to regain knee
power and to prepare for more, when walking up to Khumjung &
Khunde & the Everest View Hotel, but we had seen Everest
during our ascend to Namche. From the Everest View Hotel,
built for Japanese guests flown in by helicopte. The hotel
has also containing pressured cabins /rooms to acclimatisate
& prevent high altitude sickness ($ 135.- /person).
Everything must be carried on the back of the sherpa people
for ten days, some of them carrying over hundred kilos,
twice their own weight. The view was incredible: Ama Dablam
to the right (the most beautiful mountain), streight forward
Lhotse & in the far back MtEverest, left back Khunde Ri &
right back Thamserku.

We proceeded to Tengboche after another deep valley (450 m
down, 600 up) & got our first nightmare: no room in no lodge
due to the Mani Rhimdu Buddhist Festival. We found a
solution & spent a night in a tent, outside temp. was -5 C,
but fleece jacket warmed me like a bear skin - this plastic
recycle cloth are really protective. The toilet situation
was terrible there, as most travellers were not used to this
kind of Indian toilet, so there was sh... Everywhere. We
preferred "on the rocks". Magnificent view to all sides in
the morning. After another night in the lodge we proceeded
to Pangboche & finally Periche (4260 m), but to reach it, we
had to cross an emergency bridge of 12 m, 6 m above the
strong current, no rope to hold, just two planks held
together by a rope, also inclining to the right. My wife got
a hand from our guide & seemed to crossd this ?bridge? With
no problems. There I stood like a bathed poodle. Well, I
checked the situation (alternative were a 4 hours deviation
or wading through the current at the old bridges site),
measured the steps needed for the crossing, closed my eyes
twice - and made it whistling a funny melody.

As we arrived a midday, I used the afternoon to climb up the
moraine dividing us from the next destination Dingboche. The
moraine was about 400 m tall (means up to 4660 m) & there
was a narrow valley between the two sides of the moraine.
What a beautiful silence, like in the best sound studio. A
lammergeier flew just 30 m above me, Edelweiss & Enzian
plenty, strange rock formations & blue sky, best view to the
Lhotse & Ama Dablam, also Makalu, Island Peak, Baruntse &
P38.  So next day, we crossed over to Dingboche & spent two
nights in the Hotel Family - most places charged 20.- USD
for a double with private toilet. We got a thermos of 3 lit.
Hot water from the kitchen & had to mix it with the ice cold
water in the morning. Unbelieveable, how good these old
chinese thermos works. This place was at  4.460 m altitude. 

Because of the big japanese & Italian groups trecking up to
MtEverest Base camp, where night tempos were at -30 C. I
where most of them had to sleep in their sleeping bags in
the dining hall, we decided to remain in the other valley,
where we were near to Lhotse for less than 5 kms &  near to
Mt.Everest for just 8 kms or 5 mls. One walk up the valley
led us to Chukhung at an altitude of 4.730 meters, which was
plenty high for us. But we had zero problems with the
altitude, no headache, no stomach or breathing problems. The
way back was made in four days only, as we got better &
better in walking the more we left the higher region. So we
could run where it was possible, while the way up MUST be
slow, slow & slow again (because the health risk).

Our guide was very kind & helpful & played the banboo flute
for us while walking or resting. Our porter, a cook in a
Kathmandu hotel, carried our 30 kgs luggage & run infront of
us to look for the lodges & prepared our room. We will do
such an adventure again, off course, but in two years when
we will surround the Annapurna (much less steps) but up to
5.200

[Hornlist] Re: RE: Soundwear

2007-11-18 Thread Simon Varnam


Cabbage wrote:



The situation is even worse for valve oil.   I spent $4.95
on my most recent purchase.   This is over $12,000 a barrel!

Luckily, a barrel of valve oil will last a long time,
even though it doesn't fit very easily in the
little compartment of my MB case.



You've got it the wrong way round!
Oil is sold in barrels so you can put your horn IN one before shipping 
it.

Even if the ship sinks the oil will keep it afloat and rust-free.

Collie Flour

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