RE: [Hornlist] King Eroika horn
I owned a King Eroica from 1973-1986. I used it all through highschool and college. This nickel-silver horn played very well and at that time was considered by a few to be an alternative(perhaps even a substitute) for the Conn 8D. It had a unique two-piece lever design for the thumb valve. It was a large bore horn like the Conn and the only bad thing about it was the G at the top of the staff tended to be on the flat side. I only got rid of it when my teacher hooked me up with a used Conn 8D. Melvin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:53:49 + To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] King Eroika horn Anyone have any experience w/ the King Eroika horn? Please tell me about it. Valerie _ Be your own boss. Click here for information on starting your own business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iieVCyWp1z4dfXQ0aMnugYn6I9nkJ0XgBMJSn0jcEXaV552Rm/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwin%40hotmail.com _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: RE: [Hornlist] chicken or egg - I try it the 3rd time
Mark, Paul Rincon answered correctly regarding R. Strauss, but regarding Mozart I might ask you, if you ever have had a look who arranged the piano reduction of the Mozart Concertos you studied or you will study. Do you own the piano parts or do you just study your horn part from a copy of a copy where the arranger is not visible any more ? Would any arranger in the world dare it to write a new piano reduction, if genius Mozart had written the piano version first ? You are quite funny. Mozart wrote the concertos in a very special way as we can see on the incomplete scores for the two movements in D, we erroneously put together name it concerto no.1 and in the also autograph score for the no.3 concerto, which we number as no.4 today and in the so called Concert Rondo K.371 the other fragments. He started with the introduction as full score. As soon as the solo instrument joins, he continued with the sololine, the first violin the bass line first until the next tutti. After completing a movement he filled in the 2nd violin, viola thze usual four wind instruments, which sometimes were not written in the score but as a separate sheet of music. On repeated passages, Mozart left the work for the copyist, who wrote out the performance material. There was no score published earlier than the first Breitkopf publication edited by Henri Kling, who also arranged the piano reductions. The Mozart Concertos were not popular in the 19th century. There was just the old Andre edition of the three concertos in E-flat, but also another publication of the (modern numbering) no.4 concerto K.495 by Contore d´arte et d´industrie in Vienna, perhaps under Leitgeb´s participation. All the Mozart Concertos became popular by the effort of Karl Stiegler from Vienna Aubrey Brain in London. You have to remember, printing was extremely costly then, so very few sets were published. Printed music was too expensive for most players students. Well, some got the chance to opy parts by hand. So things became preserved also. This is the message I tried to send. Believe me, I never had any control or censorship of my letters from China. You seem to believe old myths. You should come to China to think different. I have been here about 40-times since 1984 and seen experienced the unbelieveable changes. I have Internet high speed access from nearly every hotel room (I do not travel like these rucksack tourists staying in 5 - 10.- dollar lodges but also avoid the 80.- USD up hotels.), - and the internet access is complimentary. What bothers, is the language situation. Even taxi drivers seem not to understand the term hotel, jewelry shops dont know gram or ounce as weight, even sign language fails often as they are not trained to think further. But you find a lot people, trying to help you even not being asked for. That is nice. If they speak any foreign language they try to use it when where possible. And you get everything in the shops. The shopping malls are up to date. You see all famous bran ds, the real things not copies. The architectural modern design mixed with some traditional (Tang Dynasty) is very impressing so is the size. Traffic is enormous. Food is excellent perfect cheap. We had ten satays mutton, thick noodles with tofu vegs, a plate peanuts in 5 colors plus sliced lotus roots cucumbers, another plate of vegs, 1 middle sized coke, turkish bread for a total of 5.-USD. And they had an English menu. The other day we ate Peking Duck 5 other delicacies one bottle beer for 19.-USD (famous restaurant). Greetings from Xi´an in the heart of China to all. Hope the message gets out Hans Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:01 -0500 Von: John Baumgart [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: \'The Horn List\' horn@music.memphis.edu Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] chicken or egg Give it time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellen Manthe Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:15 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] chicken or egg And no one has been the least offended by any of his comments... Ellen On 3/14/08 7:06 PM, Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 2008, at 6:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu These empty messages are being caused by filtering by the list server. Hans is sending messages that include only HTML, without the plain text alternative that is normally part of HTML emails. When the server strips out the HTML, the result is usually an empty message body, which the server discards. After looking at the raw message source and the headers, my best guess is that for some reason, the messages he is sending are missing some HTML tags, and the filtered result includes only the two carriage returns that we are seeing. The horn list sends plain text messages with no
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[Hornlist] RE:King Eroika horn
This is purely an amateurs opinion. I currently play on a King Eroika that had the bell cut and the lacquer stripped. I originally got it as a travel horn, but started playing it more than my Abilene 8D because the valves work so much better. Now, for one group I'm in, it's my horn of choice. The Eroika is not a small horn; you have to put a lot of air though it. It is also a very dark horn that can get quite loud without turning. If you prefer a bright sound, then you will not like the Eroika. If the phase of the moon is just so, with the proper section of music in the proper range, that horn will just open up and sing. I've never been able to do that on my 8D. Kathy Anaheim, CA ---Original Message--- Anyone have any experience w/ the King Eroika horn? Please tell me about it. Valerie Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
