Re: [Hornlist] Tight as can be...
If there is a fortunate placement of a brace, you could try a tenor sax neck strap, or other size that matches her physicals. And/or, find a friendly repair tech (most of us are) and find a mutually agreeable spot to solder a hook ring some where on the instrument. Bruce Hunter Sheldon Kirshner wrote: try some finger exercises without the horn, just the open hand, then just fingering around say a length of garden hose, the on the horn without the horn being in position to play, then in position without blowing...have her try to remember the feeling of no tension as she goes toward being in position to blow. Shel Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all , I have a young student who is extremly tensed when she plays the horn . I am being patient , but it seems that what ever method I pick, her muskle tonus is huge . It gets to the point that she cannot finger properly because hwe hand is so clenched arround the hand guardas she play . It does not seem that it should be that way - my relationship with that young girl are respectfull and caring ..any advice ? Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skirshner%40ameritech.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bhunter3%40mindspring.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:there is music and music
Who is the horn player? nice playing indeed. Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:there is music and music
Who is the horn player? nice playing indeed. Alon Reuven I think the hornists are Alessio Allegrini and Jonathan Williams. Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] upcoming conference on metallurgy of musical instruments
This announcement arrived today on a musicology mailing list I monitor. I know nothing more about the conference, but it might be of interest to those within range of Oxford. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:59:21 +0100 From: Harper-Scott JPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CONF: Metals in Musical Instruments To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forwarded message from Paul Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] METALS IN MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS A unique conference celebrating the metallurgy of musical instruments with virtuoso concert performances, academic lectures and visits to museums and collections. Oxford, United Kingdom 12th to 14th September 2008 Lectures will take place in the Holywell Music Room, opened in July 1748 and probably the oldest building of its type in Europe. It contains the only surviving Donaldson organ, built in 1790 and restored in 1985. Accommodation and dinner (if pre-booked) will be at Wadham College, founded in the reign of James I. * Friday 12th September 18.15Dinner (at Wadham College) 19.30Architecture of the Holywell Music Room (John Melvin, John Melvin Architects and Town Planners) 20.00Harpsichord Recital and Talk (Steven Devine, Professor of Fortepiano - Trinity College) Saturday 13th September 09.00Introduction and Welcome (Tim Young, Chairman - Historical Metallurgy Society) 09.10Boosey Hawkes to Beeson - 150 years' making brass wind musical instruments (Bradley Strauchen, Deputy Keeper of Musical Instruments - Horniman Museum) 09.50The tonal quality of brass instruments, their construction and the effects of elapsed time (Jared Berry, Consultant; Charles Snead, Director of the School of Music - University of Alabama; John Berry, Coleman Professor of Mechanical Engineering - Mississippi State University) Coffee 11.00Historical Pipe Organs: influence of microstructure and composition on corrosion of lead-rich pipes (Carla Martini Christina Chiavari - University of Bologna) 11.40Experimental Casting of Pre-Hispanic Bells (Raul Ybarra, Mexico) 12.20Characterising the properties of historical iron music wire in relation to production technology (Stephen Birkett - University of Waterloo, Ontario) LUNCH Afternoon tours of the Bate Collection of Musical Instruments, the Ashmolean Museum, the Pitt Rivers Museum Gamelan and the Museum of the History of Science. 18.15Dinner (at Wadham College) 19.45Brass Concert and Talk (Crispian Steele-Perkins, accompanied by Steven Devine) Post-concert bar Sunday 14th September 09.00Short contributions, including Sabine Klaus on 'The Jamestown Trumpet', Kilian Anheuser on 'The Metallography of a Byzantine Trumpet' and Justine Bayley on 'Medieval Brass Music Wire'. 09.40A Gotlandic string bridge of copper alloy (Ny Bjorn Gustafsson - Riksantiquariambietet, Stockholm) Coffee 10.50German Silver - what's in a name? (Louise Bacon, Head of Collections, Conservation and Care - Horniman Museum; Brian Gilmour - University of Oxford) 11.30Hand-held XRF applications (to be confirmed) LUNCH CLOSE * The conference is organised by the Historical Metallurgy Society. Further information can be found on the Society's website at http://hist-met.org/conf2008.html. If you have any queries, or would like to know more about the conference, please contact Eddie Birch on 01226 370331 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The conference fee is £75.00 which includes the concerts and refreshments. Dinner, bed and breakfast at Wadham College is £160.00. Other accommodation options are also available. It is also possible to purchase tickets for the evening concerts separately through Tickets Oxford (01865 305305) at £8.00 per concert or £14.00 for both. End of forwarded message -- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...
Such straps also are useful for those of us who (ahem) have many, many years of experience. I use one inch woven strapping. It holds its shape so you can quickly insert you hand after dewatering, or waking up on the last measure of a 50 measure rest. Herb Foster - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 10:55:37 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be... If it's a grip issue, I might be able to help. I had a grip problem when I came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago. I was playing a Holton 179 my left hand would get painful cramps from gripping holding this heavy instrument. The cramping most definitely impaired my technique. I tried various commercially made straps found they added too much bulk and made it even more difficult for my short fingers to reach the levers. I fashioned a strap made of thin cotton cloth that anchors on the pinky hook enabling me to play the horn w/o putting my pinky into the hook. Because the weight of the instrument is supported by the crotch between the thumb first knuckle, there's no pain, strain or cramping. I gave one of my straps to another small female horn player and also another to my 11 year old student. It solved grip cramping problems for them as well. If you think this might be the issue, contact me off list. Valerie in Tacoma Beauty Product Reviews Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews and Join Our Product Review Team! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/JKFkuJNzuTny3HjRXCYDc767Lc8tgxW73iHhDxR58mFuagtpWa2Wc0/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...
Hi Valerie in Tacoma and Herb, It seems as if necessity is indeed the mother of invention... As a long-time sufferer of carpal tunnel syndrome, I too have experimented with a length (perhaps 10 or so ) of an inch wide canvas belt, folded in half with button holes at either end. The button holes go over the pinky hook, and the player's hand goes into the loop formed by the strap, (you don't have to put your pinky finger into the hook) with the weight of the instrument supported in the Y formed by the thumb and index finger. Cost? $1.00 for the cotton canvas belt, and $5.00 for a shoemaker to sew reinforcing thread around the button holes. I'm trying one right now, and so far, so good. We'll see how it goes long term. Sincerely, martin bender On 9-Jul-08, at 12:45 PM, Herbert Foster wrote: Such straps also are useful for those of us who (ahem) have many, many years of experience. I use one inch woven strapping. It holds its shape so you can quickly insert you hand after dewatering, or waking up on the last measure of a 50 measure rest. Herb Foster - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 10:55:37 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be... If it's a grip issue, I might be able to help. I had a grip problem when I came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago. I was playing a Holton 179 my left hand would get painful cramps from gripping holding this heavy instrument. The cramping most definitely impaired my technique. I tried various commercially made straps found they added too much bulk and made it even more difficult for my short fingers to reach the levers. I fashioned a strap made of thin cotton cloth that anchors on the pinky hook enabling me to play the horn w/o putting my pinky into the hook. Because the weight of the instrument is supported by the crotch between the thumb first knuckle, there's no pain, strain or cramping. I gave one of my straps to another small female horn player and also another to my 11 year old student. It solved grip cramping problems for them as well. If you think this might be the issue, contact me off list. Valerie in Tacoma Beauty Product Reviews Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews and Join Our Product Review Team! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/JKFkuJNzuTny3HjRXCYDc767Lc8tgxW73iHhDxR58mFuagtpWa2Wc0/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/embee%40magma.ca ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
For bass clef work I also employ McCoy's / 46 Progressive Exercises for Low Horn. I have struggled on and off with bass clef horn, even prior to coming back to the horn a year ago after a 10 year hiatus. Largely due to mild dyslexia, and secondly by being programmed to one tack treble clef frame of reference for years when my mind was more sponge like. The simple etudes in he McCoy book are helping me bridge a gap that even 12 years ago in my prime I was struggled with. I still remember *shudders* My Freshman Keyboard class as a music major. I had to memorize the bass lines in order to play for my exam. Was sad. Spent more time in the piano lab then with my horn in those days. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
All musicians should learn to play the piano. I was in the same boat as you - I got to college as a guitar player and had never seen a bass clef. Perseverance furthers, and learning to play the piano is valuable beyond words to any musician of any instrument, in my opinion. -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:04 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff For bass clef work I also employ McCoy's / 46 Progressive Exercises for Low Horn. I have struggled on and off with bass clef horn, even prior to coming back to the horn a year ago after a 10 year hiatus. Largely due to mild dyslexia, and secondly by being programmed to one tack treble clef frame of reference for years when my mind was more sponge like. The simple etudes in he McCoy book are helping me bridge a gap that even 12 years ago in my prime I was struggled with. I still remember *shudders* My Freshman Keyboard class as a music major. I had to memorize the bass lines in order to play for my exam. Was sad. Spent more time in the piano lab then with my horn in those days. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
I would like to suggest that if the person needing to learn bass clef is male, that singing bass in a choir or other vocal ensemble is an excellent way to learn the staff, and also help train the ear. Tenors often use the displaced octave treble clef, so they don't always get the opportunity to use bass clef. Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact be possible, but not probable. Paxmaha - ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] TMJ problems
Someone please tell me there's a light at the end of this tunnel. I've been experiencing TMJ problems for over a year now. My dentist says playing horn is triggering it. She can see changes on my X-rays since I've been playing again, 2 1/2 years now. She put me in a night guard, gave me a topical treatment, I take anti-inflammatory meds, an anti inflammatory dietary supplement (JointMD) which does help somewhat. When it's really bad, I have to follow an all liquid diet. But I still have a lot of oral sensitivity and jaw pain and it's only getting worse. Sigh.. Has anyone out there conquered this problem? Please share what you did. I'm willing to try anything at this point (except giving up the horn, of course!). Please reply off list if you're not comfortable responding in public. Valerie in Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org