Re: [Hornlist] Tight as can be...

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Hunter
If there is a fortunate placement of a brace, you could try a tenor sax 
neck strap, or other size that matches her physicals. And/or, find a 
friendly repair tech (most of us are) and find a mutually agreeable spot 
to solder a hook ring some where on the instrument.

Bruce Hunter

Sheldon Kirshner wrote:

try some finger exercises  without the horn, just the open hand, then just 
fingering around say a length of garden hose, the on the horn without the horn 
being in position to play, then in position without blowing...have her try to 
remember the feeling of no tension as she goes toward being in position to blow.
   
  Shel


Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all ,
I have a young student who is extremly tensed when she plays the horn .
I am being patient , but it seems that what ever method I pick, her muskle
tonus is huge . It gets to the point that she cannot finger properly because
hwe hand is so clenched arround the hand guardas she play . It does not
seem that it should be that way - my relationship with that young girl are
respectfull and caring ..any advice ?
Alon
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[Hornlist] Re:there is music and music

2008-07-09 Thread Alon reuven
Who is the horn player? nice playing indeed.
Alon Reuven
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[Hornlist] Re:there is music and music

2008-07-09 Thread Daniel Canarutto

Who is the horn player? nice playing indeed.
Alon Reuven


I think the hornists are Alessio Allegrini and Jonathan Williams.
Daniel
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[Hornlist] upcoming conference on metallurgy of musical instruments

2008-07-09 Thread Steve Haflich

This announcement arrived today on a musicology mailing list I
monitor.  I know nothing more about the conference, but it might be of
interest to those within range of Oxford.

Message-ID:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:59:21 +0100
From: Harper-Scott JPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CONF: Metals in Musical Instruments
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Forwarded message from Paul Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED]

METALS IN MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS


A unique conference celebrating the metallurgy of musical instruments 
with virtuoso concert performances, academic lectures and visits to 
museums and collections.

Oxford, United Kingdom
12th to 14th September 2008

Lectures will take place in the Holywell Music Room, opened in July 1748 
and probably the oldest building of its type in Europe. It contains the 
only surviving Donaldson organ, built in 1790 and restored in 1985. 
Accommodation and dinner (if pre-booked) will be at Wadham College, 
founded in the reign of James I.



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Friday 12th September

18.15Dinner (at Wadham College)

19.30Architecture of the Holywell Music Room (John Melvin, John 
Melvin Architects and Town Planners)

20.00Harpsichord Recital and Talk (Steven Devine, Professor of 
Fortepiano - Trinity College)



Saturday 13th September

09.00Introduction and Welcome (Tim Young, Chairman - Historical 
Metallurgy Society)

09.10Boosey  Hawkes to Beeson - 150 years' making brass wind 
musical instruments (Bradley Strauchen, Deputy Keeper of Musical 
Instruments - Horniman Museum)

09.50The tonal quality of brass instruments, their construction and 
the effects of elapsed time (Jared Berry, Consultant; Charles Snead, 
Director of the School of Music - University of Alabama; John Berry, 
Coleman Professor of Mechanical Engineering - Mississippi State University)

Coffee

11.00Historical Pipe Organs: influence of microstructure and 
composition on corrosion of lead-rich pipes (Carla Martini  Christina 
Chiavari - University of Bologna)

11.40Experimental Casting of Pre-Hispanic Bells (Raul Ybarra, Mexico)

12.20Characterising the properties of historical iron music wire in 
relation to production technology (Stephen Birkett - University of 
Waterloo, Ontario)

LUNCH

Afternoon tours of the Bate Collection of Musical Instruments, the 
Ashmolean Museum, the Pitt Rivers Museum Gamelan and the Museum of the 
History of Science.

18.15Dinner (at Wadham College)

19.45Brass Concert and Talk (Crispian Steele-Perkins, accompanied by 
Steven Devine)

Post-concert bar



Sunday 14th September

09.00Short contributions, including Sabine Klaus on 'The Jamestown 
Trumpet', Kilian Anheuser on 'The Metallography of a Byzantine Trumpet' 
and Justine Bayley on 'Medieval Brass Music Wire'.

09.40A Gotlandic string bridge of copper alloy (Ny Bjorn Gustafsson 
- Riksantiquariambietet, Stockholm)

Coffee

10.50German Silver - what's in a name? (Louise Bacon, Head of 
Collections, Conservation and Care - Horniman Museum; Brian Gilmour - 
University of Oxford)

11.30Hand-held XRF applications (to be confirmed)


LUNCH

CLOSE



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The conference is organised by the Historical Metallurgy Society. 
Further information can be found on the Society's website at 
http://hist-met.org/conf2008.html. If you have any queries, or would 
like to know more about the conference, please contact Eddie Birch on 
01226 370331 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The conference fee is £75.00 which includes the concerts and 
refreshments. Dinner, bed and breakfast at Wadham College is £160.00. 
Other accommodation options are also available. It is also possible to 
purchase tickets for the evening concerts separately through Tickets 
Oxford (01865 305305) at £8.00 per concert or £14.00 for both.



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Re: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...

2008-07-09 Thread Herbert Foster
Such straps also are useful for those of us who (ahem) have many, many years of 
experience. I use one inch woven strapping. It holds its shape so you can 
quickly insert you hand after dewatering, or waking up on the last measure of a 
50 measure rest.

Herb Foster



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Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...

If it's a grip issue, I might be able to help.  I had a grip problem when I 
came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago.  I was playing a Holton 179  my left hand 
would get painful cramps from gripping  holding this heavy instrument. The 
cramping most definitely impaired my technique. I tried various commercially 
made straps  found they added too much bulk and made it even more difficult 
for my short fingers to reach the levers.  I fashioned a strap made of thin 
cotton cloth that anchors on the pinky hook enabling me to play the horn w/o 
putting my pinky into the hook. Because the weight of the instrument is 
supported by the crotch between the thumb  first knuckle, there's no pain, 
strain or cramping.  I gave one of my straps to another small female horn 
player and also another to my 11 year old student.  It solved grip  cramping 
problems for them as well.  

If you think this might be the issue, contact me off list.

Valerie in Tacoma  


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Re: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...

2008-07-09 Thread Martin Bender

Hi Valerie in Tacoma and Herb,

It seems as if necessity is indeed the mother of invention...

As a long-time sufferer of carpal tunnel syndrome, I too have  
experimented with a length (perhaps 10 or so ) of an inch wide canvas  
belt, folded in half with button holes at either end. The button holes  
go over the pinky hook, and the player's hand goes into the loop  
formed by the strap, (you don't have to put your pinky finger into the  
hook) with the weight of the instrument supported in the Y formed by  
the thumb and index finger.


Cost? $1.00 for the cotton canvas belt, and $5.00 for a shoemaker to  
sew reinforcing thread around the button holes. I'm trying one right  
now, and so far, so good. We'll see how it goes long term.


Sincerely,
martin bender


On 9-Jul-08, at 12:45 PM, Herbert Foster wrote:

Such straps also are useful for those of us who (ahem) have many,  
many years of experience. I use one inch woven strapping. It holds  
its shape so you can quickly insert you hand after dewatering, or  
waking up on the last measure of a 50 measure rest.


Herb Foster



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Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Tight as can be...

If it's a grip issue, I might be able to help.  I had a grip problem  
when I came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago.  I was playing a Holton  
179  my left hand would get painful cramps from gripping  holding  
this heavy instrument. The cramping most definitely impaired my  
technique. I tried various commercially made straps  found they  
added too much bulk and made it even more difficult for my short  
fingers to reach the levers.  I fashioned a strap made of thin  
cotton cloth that anchors on the pinky hook enabling me to play the  
horn w/o putting my pinky into the hook. Because the weight of the  
instrument is supported by the crotch between the thumb  first  
knuckle, there's no pain, strain or cramping.  I gave one of my  
straps to another small female horn player and also another to my 11  
year old student.  It solved grip  cramping problems for them as  
well.


If you think this might be the issue, contact me off list.

Valerie in Tacoma


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[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff

2008-07-09 Thread AllFlaExteriors
For bass clef work I also employ McCoy's / 46 Progressive Exercises for Low 
Horn. 
I have struggled on and off with bass clef horn, even  prior to coming back 
to the horn a year ago after a 10 year hiatus. Largely due  to mild dyslexia, 
and secondly by being programmed to one tack treble clef  frame of reference 
for years when my mind was more sponge like. 
 
The  simple etudes in he McCoy book are  helping me bridge a gap that even 12 
years ago in my prime I was struggled with. 
 
I still remember *shudders* My Freshman Keyboard class  as a music major. I 
had to memorize the bass lines in order to play for my exam.  Was sad. Spent 
more time in the piano lab then with my horn in those days. 



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RE: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff

2008-07-09 Thread Steve Freides
All musicians should learn to play the piano.   I was in the same boat as
you - I got to college as a guitar player and had never seen a bass clef.
Perseverance furthers, and learning to play the piano is valuable beyond
words to any musician of any instrument, in my opinion.

-S-

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 Subject: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
 
 For bass clef work I also employ McCoy's / 46 Progressive 
 Exercises for Low Horn. 
 I have struggled on and off with bass clef horn, even  prior 
 to coming back to the horn a year ago after a 10 year hiatus. 
 Largely due  to mild dyslexia, and secondly by being 
 programmed to one tack treble clef  frame of reference for 
 years when my mind was more sponge like. 
  
 The  simple etudes in he McCoy book are  helping me bridge a 
 gap that even 12 years ago in my prime I was struggled with. 
  
 I still remember *shudders* My Freshman Keyboard class  as a 
 music major. I had to memorize the bass lines in order to 
 play for my exam.  Was sad. Spent more time in the piano lab 
 then with my horn in those days. 
 
 
 
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 the live music 
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[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff

2008-07-09 Thread David A. Jewell
I would like to suggest that if the person needing to learn bass clef is male, 
that singing bass in a choir or other vocal ensemble is an excellent way to 
learn the staff, and also help train the ear. Tenors often use the displaced 
octave treble clef, so they don't always get the opportunity to use bass clef.  
Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact be 
possible, but not probable.
Paxmaha



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[Hornlist] TMJ problems

2008-07-09 Thread Valerie WELLS

Someone please tell me there's a light at the end of this tunnel.  I've been 
experiencing TMJ problems for over a year now.  My dentist says playing horn is 
triggering it.  She can see changes on my X-rays since I've been playing again, 
2 1/2 years now.  She put me in a night guard, gave me a topical treatment, I 
take anti-inflammatory meds, an anti inflammatory dietary supplement (JointMD) 
which does help somewhat.  When it's really bad, I have to follow an all liquid 
diet.  But I still have a lot of oral sensitivity and jaw pain and it's only 
getting worse.  Sigh..  Has anyone out there conquered this problem?  
Please share what you did.  I'm willing to try anything at this point (except 
giving up the horn, of course!).  Please reply off list if you're not 
comfortable responding in public.   Valerie in Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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