[Hornlist] Re: Donato
Wendell wrote: OK, I hate being this negative so I am going to stop. But the reason I wrote this is because i hear a lot of playing that is headed in this direction. This is the stuff the demo tables at a horn workshop is made of. Just bad, insensitive notes. Ugly. Two thumbs down. Those of you who saw The Professor this summer in Denver saw some great fooling around and being facetious, etc. This is what the joke was all about. _ I share Valerie's view that many things can appear humorous, and I disagree with Wendell's last sentence that implies that humor occurs only when it is meant to be humor. Some of the best humor is the unintended kind. I also see the kind of horn playing mentioned by Wendell that is, Just bad, insensitive..., yes I hear it all the time, and it is usually by amateur hornists who have far less technical ability than Donato. This insensitivity occurs in the thousands of youth and amateur adult ensembles across out great nation (U.S., that is). We can applaud Professors Pizka and Rider for expressing heartfelt convictions for the need for aesthetic expression. For others like Valerie to see humor in situations is also a valid reference (Palineze sentence structure). Take a look at this video, and see if you don't get a light hearted reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLRYjaNSywfeature=channel_page Best regards, Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Contacting John Webb
Greetings, I am trying to reach John Webb, but his web domain seems to have gone defunct as of last November. I was told by Etienne Cutajar that Mr. Webb made the horns used on the Pinnock recording of the Brandenburg Concertos. I would like to find out more about his instruments and whether or not he is still making them. Thanks in advance for any help, Jesse Windels ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Contacting John Webb
Hi Jesse, As far as I am aware, John Webb is still based in Wootton Bassett - his contact details are/were: John Webb, Padbrook, Chaddington Lane, Bincknoll, Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, SN4 8QR, England Telephone: +44 (0) 1793 853171 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 848498 Email: wwwebbr...@aol.com As you say, the web domain is non-functional - I don't know about the email address; it probably still works as it is just a normal AOL address. Tony Halstead may well be able to point you in the right direction if you can't get in contact with him directly (see his website www.halsteadmusic.co.uk for an email address. Tim Costen -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+tim.costen=isode@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+tim.costen=isode@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Windels Sent: 10 January 2009 19:37 To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Contacting John Webb Greetings, I am trying to reach John Webb, but his web domain seems to have gone defunct as of last November. I was told by Etienne Cutajar that Mr. Webb made the horns used on the Pinnock recording of the Brandenburg Concertos. I would like to find out more about his instruments and whether or not he is still making them. Thanks in advance for any help, Jesse Windels ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tim.costen%40isode.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Donato
Larry, Wendell, Valerie, Hans, et al: One of the reasons I enjoy plowing through the horn lists so much is the variety of opinion. We have a talent for discussing the minutia of mouthpiece, horn make, who sat in the horn section on the third recording of XXX in Sheboygan in 1936, transposition, horn teachers, (stop me!) and other topics like no other group on the planet. Add to that the wide variations in age, locale, and personality, and we have a recipe for a fascinating stone (horn) soup. When I assess video or audio offerings from the lists, PART of the lens I use is made up of my age (55), gender, (f), locale (WA by way of CO and NM), horn experience level (back to performance level after many years of not working at it since a stint at NMSU as an applied horn major in the 70's), and current job (elementary art teacher - recovering elementary principal.) I can understand several of the reactions to Donato's clips but layer on my own free associations when I watch. Here's a hint: (just spewed without correct grammar because free association doesn't lend itself well to such...) Volume down too loud, tiny room, no editing or he wouldn't include the camera flips at the beginning, (intentional? For what reason?), full walls, wonder if prizes or collections, rigidly linear display, body language has side or back to camera much of the time, volume manipulation?, discordant, wonder if housemates/neighbors have trouble with volume, oops - Mom/Auntie invading sanctuary, jumping up and down?, bluegrass and Celtic fiddles do that and it's cooler, somehow, doesn't add to horn sound, flashback to marching season in HS (brrr), serious need for attention, Judy Miller Show similar, but Gilda framed show as if she were 9 or 10 so it was endearing, somehow, mental illness? I'll stop because my brain-flits aren't interesting to anyone but me, but my point is that my own history informs my reaction to his clips. I also have had the privilege of playing with Valerie while Wendell conducted AND laughing until my sides hurt at IHS in Denver when the Professor taught me everything I needed to know about the fine art of Clamology. It's a big, wide world, and I'm glad that youtube offers me a look at Brain, beginning horns at their first recitals and everything in between. I'm *thrilled* that we really don't need a consensus on any of it. Joyce message: 8 date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:37:41 -0800 (PST) from: Larry Jellison lajelli...@yahoo.com subject: [Hornlist] Re: Donato Wendell wrote: OK, I hate being this negative so I am going to stop. But the reason I wrote this is because i hear a lot of playing that is headed in this direction. This is the stuff the demo tables at a horn workshop is made of. Just bad, insensitive notes. Ugly. Two thumbs down. Those of you who saw The Professor this summer in Denver saw some great fooling around and being facetious, etc. This is what the joke was all about. _ I share Valerie's view that many things can appear humorous, and I disagree with Wendell's last sentence that implies that humor occurs only when it is meant to be humor. Some of the best humor is the unintended kind. I also see the kind of horn playing mentioned by Wendell that is, Just bad, insensitive..., yes I hear it all the time, and it is usually by amateur hornists who have far less technical ability than Donato. This insensitivity occurs in the thousands of youth and amateur adult ensembles across out great nation (U.S., that is). We can applaud Professors Pizka and Rider for expressing heartfelt convictions for the need for aesthetic expression. For others like Valerie to see humor in situations is also a valid reference (Palineze sentence structure). Take a look at this video, and see if you don't get a light hearted reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLRYjaNSywfeature=channel_page Best regards, Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Donato
Rx Hans Wendell: (1) Kava-kava 250mg 3 times a day or as needed for stress anxiety. (2) Long vacation. (3) Avoid Donato videos and discussions. --- Rx for everyone else: (1) Funny Donato videos as needed for stress anxiety. Valerie ;o) Find out how fast you can be debt free! Click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbwZcisZOtKryZ0TkaINa6NQTcp31jXR2pjhgVE4V9cnUTTTW/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RIP Arthur Goldstein
Arthur Goldstein passed away last week on Jan. 2. http://www.legacy.com/Newsday/DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonId=12214 0718 Is a link to the obituary. He was a wonderful, humorous guy who was always great to see and be around. I will miss him, Debbie Schmidt ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] OT: Looking for Robert Cook
Hope it's ok to post this here. Bob and Patti Cook were good friends of ours back in Germany, when he was a member of the 3AD Band. Through moves we have lost touch and I am hoping that we can find each other again. Bob plays French Horn and Patti the Oboe. If you know how do get a hold of them, would you please let them know that Perry Anne Crawford are trying to get in touch? Our email address is crawfordzoo (at) gmail.com Thank you bunches! -- Greetings ~ Anne ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Donato
But please, folks. If you aspire to be this type of player, think =20 again. This has nothing to do with music, it's just showing off- and =20 not very well at that. I could not agree more, sheer unmusical extravagance without any discernible humour for me personally. Not to be condoned, in my humble opinion, by anyone who really loves the horn. Take care all, Simon Locke ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Donato
As I have said, I prefer style to vulgarity. For stress and anxiety, I take a dose of Florence Foster Jenkins (no relation). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtf2Q4yyuJ0 Here the accompanist has to change keys on the fly (not a diptera or zipper, Cabbage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExSlVoQ0e5cfeature=related Herb Foster From: wells123...@juno.com wells123...@juno.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:31:07 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Donato Rx Hans Wendell: (1) Kava-kava 250mg 3 times a day or as needed for stress anxiety. (2) Long vacation. (3) Avoid Donato videos and discussions. --- Rx for everyone else: (1) Funny Donato videos as needed for stress anxiety. Valerie ;o) Find out how fast you can be debt free! Click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbwZcisZOtKryZ0TkaINa6NQTcp31jXR2pjhgVE4V9cnUTTTW/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Donato
Larry wrote: -Take a look at this video, and see if you don't get a light hearted reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLRYjaNSywfeature=channel_page Well, it is kind of funny in a way, about on the level of a fart joke. - Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Donato
Joyce Thank you for working in public education. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Joyce Rainwalker Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:08 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Donato Larry, Wendell, Valerie, Hans, et al: One of the reasons I enjoy plowing through the horn lists so much is the variety of opinion. We have a talent for discussing the minutia of mouthpiece, horn make, who sat in the horn section on the third recording of XXX in Sheboygan in 1936, transposition, horn teachers, (stop me!) and other topics like no other group on the planet. Add to that the wide variations in age, locale, and personality, and we have a recipe for a fascinating stone (horn) soup. When I assess video or audio offerings from the lists, PART of the lens I use is made up of my age (55), gender, (f), locale (WA by way of CO and NM), horn experience level (back to performance level after many years of not working at it since a stint at NMSU as an applied horn major in the 70's), and current job (elementary art teacher - recovering elementary principal.) I can understand several of the reactions to Donato's clips but layer on my own free associations when I watch. Here's a hint: (just spewed without correct grammar because free association doesn't lend itself well to such...) Volume down too loud, tiny room, no editing or he wouldn't include the camera flips at the beginning, (intentional? For what reason?), full walls, wonder if prizes or collections, rigidly linear display, body language has side or back to camera much of the time, volume manipulation?, discordant, wonder if housemates/neighbors have trouble with volume, oops - Mom/Auntie invading sanctuary, jumping up and down?, bluegrass and Celtic fiddles do that and it's cooler, somehow, doesn't add to horn sound, flashback to marching season in HS (brrr), serious need for attention, Judy Miller Show similar, but Gilda framed show as if she were 9 or 10 so it was endearing, somehow, mental illness? I'll stop because my brain-flits aren't interesting to anyone but me, but my point is that my own history informs my reaction to his clips. I also have had the privilege of playing with Valerie while Wendell conducted AND laughing until my sides hurt at IHS in Denver when the Professor taught me everything I needed to know about the fine art of Clamology. It's a big, wide world, and I'm glad that youtube offers me a look at Brain, beginning horns at their first recitals and everything in between. I'm *thrilled* that we really don't need a consensus on any of it. Joyce message: 8 date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:37:41 -0800 (PST) from: Larry Jellison lajelli...@yahoo.com subject: [Hornlist] Re: Donato Wendell wrote: OK, I hate being this negative so I am going to stop. But the reason I wrote this is because i hear a lot of playing that is headed in this direction. This is the stuff the demo tables at a horn workshop is made of. Just bad, insensitive notes. Ugly. Two thumbs down. Those of you who saw The Professor this summer in Denver saw some great fooling around and being facetious, etc. This is what the joke was all about. _ I share Valerie's view that many things can appear humorous, and I disagree with Wendell's last sentence that implies that humor occurs only when it is meant to be humor. Some of the best humor is the unintended kind. I also see the kind of horn playing mentioned by Wendell that is, Just bad, insensitive..., yes I hear it all the time, and it is usually by amateur hornists who have far less technical ability than Donato. This insensitivity occurs in the thousands of youth and amateur adult ensembles across out great nation (U.S., that is). We can applaud Professors Pizka and Rider for expressing heartfelt convictions for the need for aesthetic expression. For others like Valerie to see humor in situations is also a valid reference (Palineze sentence structure). Take a look at this video, and see if you don't get a light hearted reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLRYjaNSywfeature=channel_page Best regards, Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
