[Hornlist] Lawson horns (was: North East Horn Workshop)

2009-03-12 Thread daniel . canarutto

Dear Kendall,
I have never had an opportunity of trying a Lawson, ad unfortunately I  
can't cross the ocean right now. I have a question, though. I  
understand, from various sources, that Lawson horns are mainly  
designed to yield the big American sound. Is it true? Or, do you  
produce different models, some of them suited for (say) a German type  
of sound? Do you think a Lawson horn could be played in the Berliner  
Philharmoniker?


(Yes, I know: it's the player, not the horn--I apologize if my  
question is too equipment-minded...)


Daniel

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Dear Horn Listers:

Please allow me this opportunity to invite those of you attending the NEHW
at Ithaca College this weekend to visit the Lawson Horns / Kendall Betts Horn
Camp exhibits in room 3304 in the Whalen Center.

I will have the full inventory of Lawson demonstration models, mouthpieces,
lead-pipes, and bell flares on display and available for testing.  I have
extensive stock of all mouthpiece cups and rims and will offer them at a
discount for workshop attendees.  Any order for a lead-pipe or bell   
flare  made there

will receive a discount as well.  I also will have a used Lawson  Model 8211
Descant for sale.  This horn is owned by noted NY  free-lancer, Bobby Routch,
and is in as new condition.  Here is  an opportunity to purchase a fine
instrument without a wait for delivery  next year.

I will also have information on KBHC.  I welcome your visit and I will  be
happy to answer any questions you might have regarding Lawson Horns, KBHC and
horn lore in general.

All that said, this looks to be a stellar workshop with headliners Gail
Williams, Adam Unsworth and the American Horn Quartet.

I hope to see you in Ithaca!

Sincerely,

Kendall Betts



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[Hornlist] Clevenger's horn

2009-03-12 Thread phirsch

Anyone on the list know what make and model Dale's current orchestral
instrument is? All of his section appear to be playing the standard Steve
Lewis horn, but his has some interesting looking straight slides and extra
tubing on it. Even with binoculars, I wasn't able to get a good enough look
to tell what sort of arrangement it had, though I could see that it had a
normal looking leadpipe, so I doubt that it is any sort of triple.

Just curious.

Peter Hirsch.

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[Hornlist] Re: Lawson horns (was: North East Horn Workshop)

2009-03-12 Thread KendallBetts
Dear Daniel,
 
Thank you for your interest and questions.
 
Our current Classical Model 804C is our version of a medium belled  horn.  
This model made in red brass or yellow brass with yellow brass  or ambronze 
bell flare would be what many European players would  like.  We have several 
over there currently played by professionals in  Norway, Denmark and 
Switzerland 
and I have had inquiries of late from other  Europeans.
 
As to American Sound, we are a large and diverse community of horn  players 
here.  Our sounds all have European roots, though, and the  two schools of 
playing here evolved primarily from students of  Gumpert.  Anton Horner was 
an F horn player and promoted the silver large  belled Kruspe.  Hence the 8D, 
etc.  Others such as Bruno Jaenicke and  Willem Valkenier were B horn players, 
and preferred narrower belled brass  horns.  Hence the Geyer, Conn 6D (now 
10D) etc.  That's the story in a  nutshell.
 
Walter and Bruce Lawson successfully made designs over the years based on  
those roots.  Their goal was to improve sound, response, intonation with  those 
models listed above as the primary starting points as well as the Alex  103.  
Lawson horns are refinements, not just copies, and Walter purposely  designed 
the wrap to be unique in the world.  The early models were listed  as small, 
medium, medium large and large.
 
The small belled horns, similar to an Alex 103 played quite well and I  think 
Ted Thayer used one for a while in the National Symphony, coming from an  
Alex 103.  He switched to the Classical when it came out and the general  
consensus was the Classical was a definite improvement for this type of  
horn.  
We could build that again but we are busy enough making the current  models.  
For Alex 103 players, our lead-pipes are worth a try and I have  some being 
play-tested now by members of a German orchestra.  The  Lawson's had other Alex 
playing Europeans switch to our pipes in  the past and I've converted Alex's 
for American customers this year  already. 
 
The medium and medium large horns sold quite well, especially the medium  
large.  Barry Tuckwell used a medium large Lawson for several years before  
signing on with Holton.  Many Alex and Geyer type players also liked  those.
 
The large horn was most popular with many being made and still being  used.  
The Kruspe/Conn type players primarily went for those.  
 
The medium large and large horns evolved into the present Fourier Model  
804F with changes in the tapers, multi-boring in the straight sections and the  
V2 leadpipe.  This is our version of a Kruspe type horn.
 
The small and medium horns evolved into the present Classical model 804C,  
with the above listed changes done in a way to give the instrument more  
resistance, what some people call slotting, I believe.  This is our  version 
of a 
Geyer type horn.
 
We now offer many different bell flares with the goal of satisfying the  
various sound needs of different individuals.  I anticipate having  aftermarket 
flares available soon for makes not using the Alex type screw  ring.
 
As to the Berlin Philharmonic, players of that caliber can play on  anything! 
 I know they currently have a close relationship with  Alexander.  
Previously, they were using Yamaha for a number of years.  I would relish a 
chance, 
though, for them to try our equipment and I would  welcome their opinions!
 
I've made crooks with our tapers for my own natural and Vienna horns and  
this is something I hope to market in the future, as well.
 
I know you play a Rauch, and we have made pipes for those as well.   Please 
contact me off-list if you would like to arrange a trial.
 
Best wishes,
 
Kendall Betts
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/12/2009 1:01:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes:

message:  7
date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:00:25 +0100
from:  daniel.canaru...@unifi.it
subject: [Hornlist] Lawson horns (was: North East  Horn Workshop)

Dear Kendall,
I have never had an opportunity of  trying a Lawson, ad unfortunately I =20
can't cross the ocean right now. I  have a question, though. I =20
understand, from various sources, that  Lawson horns are mainly =20
designed to yield the big American sound. Is  it true? Or, do you =20
produce different models, some of them suited for  (say) a German type =20
of sound? Do you think a Lawson horn could be  played in the Berliner =20
Philharmoniker?

(Yes, I know: it's the  player, not the horn--I apologize if my =20
question is too  equipment-minded...)

Daniel


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Re: [Hornlist] Pictures of compensating horns

2009-03-12 Thread Steve Freides
Many thanks, Carlberg!

-S-

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Carlberg Jones
carlbergjo...@prodigy.net.mx wrote:
 At 2:26 PM -0500 3/12/09, Steve Freides wrote:

 I would appreciate links to pictures of compensating double (or
 triple) French Horns

 http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/FRENCH-HORN-COMPENSATING-DOUBLE-H-ZALZER_W0QQitemZ320288721133QQihZ011QQcategoryZ16215QQcmdZViewItem
 - lots of pictures including closeups.

 --
 Carlberg Jones
 Skype - carlbergbmug
 Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes
 Aguascalientes, Ags.
 MEXICO
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Re: [Hornlist] Clevenger's horn

2009-03-12 Thread Greg Campbell

phir...@nypl.org wrote:

Anyone on the list know what make and model Dale's current orchestral
instrument is? All of his section appear to be playing the standard Steve
Lewis horn, but his has some interesting looking straight slides and extra
tubing on it. 


Maybe he was playing a descant? I believe he plays one of the older-wrap 
Paxman 40 models.


Greg

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[Hornlist] Mighty Owensboro Symphony Section

2009-03-12 Thread Leonard Peggy Brown
I came across a faded picture of the horn section of the Owensboro Kentucky 
symphony of 1974.  John Cox and I are in it, I keep touch with John but I 
wonder what happened to the other guys.

 Have you ever run across:

Richard Reed, 3rd, a student at IU at the time.

Art May, 4th, band director, moved to Calif in about 75

Jack Zackary, first, band director in Kentucky


Regards,
Leonard 


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