RE: [Hornlist] Re: for no one
Well there was a story about Gershwin I heard many years ago that went something like this. Somebody may be able to fill in the details. The way I heard it was that at some point after he was established as a composer he decided that it was time for him to learn proper orchestration techniques. So he applied to a well-known composition instructor (in the Paris Conservatory, I believe). The instructor asked Gershwin how much money he made the previous year to which he replied $20,000 (a huge amount back then). The instructor then replied that Gershwin should teach him how to orchestrate. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kit Wolf Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:25 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: for no one > Thanks for your information; I found out that Paul taught himself to > read and write music in order to be able to produce his "Requiem", > which was premiered some time ago. I heard that he had a team of people that he hummed/sang to, who wrote it down for him. e.g. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE3D91E3FF933A05753C1A9679 58260 I don't mean this disparagingly - whatever works. At university here there's a folk music course, and many of the students have the measure of the classically trained musicians in terms of virtuosity even though I understand they learned to play without reading music. Kit ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Falling Apart
The best cure for hiccups or a laughing attack was to be playing under Dr. Revelli and have him stare at you. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KJ L Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:56 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Falling Apart Hi Tim! I'm in high school, too, and have had a few embarassing experiences like anyone... Once, a lightbulb exploded and hit me on the head, giving me a headache for the rest of a concert; another time I got so lost coming back from the restroom that the concert was held up from starting for 10 minutes. Last week I got the hiccups for the duration of a piece in an orchestra concert. I didn't have any solos, luckily, but it was really unnerving. Has anyone else had the hiccups? Do you know any quick fixes? Have a happy day, Kate ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Counting rests
Good suggestions, Luke. Sometimes it is also appropriate to ask the conductor for a cue on really long rests. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Zyla Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:57 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Counting rests I think that we all search for the answer to this question. I have had similar experiences with miscounted rests too many times to admit. I think this is the number one cause of mistakes in any performance. Here are some things that might help: Use your fingers. Right hand will keep count of the tens and left hand the ones. For example, m. 24 would be two fingers on the right hand and five on the left. As you start from m. 1, open the hand for m.1-5 and close for 6-10. Split up long rests into smaller pieces that correspond to major entrances of other instruments. For example, in a 50 measure rest you can note that the woodwinds enter in m.23, the trumpet enter in m. 42, etc. I wouldn't split it by doing 23 measures then 19 measures, etc, because this would have you counting different groupings than you other horn mates. Count as a team. Have a subtle signal for the arrival at every rehearsal letter. Communicate with each other to help keep your place. If you play assistant, help the principal keep their place. It helps to know the piece well. Listen to recordings and try to get a score to study the piece. Dover publications has lots of very inexpensive scores. Hope this helps. Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Counting rests > I'm going to ask - with some embarrassment - a question that I feel I > shouldn't have to ask by now. But here goes anyway. > > I just played 5th horn in Mahler's 8th symphony, and my enjoyment was only > tempered by the fact that I missed 3 entries. Now this wasn't helped by a > part with lots of 'Tacet bis' passages, but I also miscounted one and > daydreamed one. > > I've tried many things over the years: counting on my fingers; counting > backwards (5234, 4234, 3234...); watching the conductor both for entries > and to make sure I'm not counting in 2 when I should be counting in 4 or > vice-versa. I've certainly got better, and I more-or-less hold down 1st in > another orchestra. But it's perhaps the biggest bugbear of my playing: if > I do come in I normally get the notes, and sometimes they're reasonably > musical too. > > Trying to be analytical, a few things I've identified as problems are: > > - After a pause and change of time-signature, being uncertain whether the > conductor's beating a bar rest with an upbeat, or a bar in. > > - Counting at the wrong speed (in 2 rather than 4, or vice-versa). > > - Continuing to count even after the entry (hence the counting backwards). > > - With a long sequence of rests, forgetting which rest I'm counting. > > - Counting long numbers (26,2; 27,2 - if it's at a fast tempo). > > I've certainly improved, but I'm still not where I should be. Does anybody > have any other hints or ideas about other things that I might try. Also, > do you all 'hear' the numbers as you count, or have you learned to count > without doing this? I ask this following a discussion about reading - I > don't hear the words as I read, but I do hear the numbers as I count and > when they get large (4-syllables for '27') I think this might be slowing > me up. > > Kit > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40suddenlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Phrasing
Debbie reminds us, "Classical music is always either going to someplace or coming from someplace ..." And sometimes both; the end of one phrase can also be the beginning of the next phrase which makes for some interesting mental gymnastics. Please refer to David Kaslow's book, "With Aspirations High" for a succinct discussion of phrasing principles. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Books (was: My killer lick sheet)
I deal with international customers frequently. If you go to http://www.xe.com/ucc/full, you can convert the USD price is to your money. You should be able to send a cheque for that amount to an American company who can then deposit it in virtually any American bank account. The banks will calculate the amount in USD that finally gets credited to the American bank account. It takes about ten days from the time the cheque is deposited for the banks to complete this process. Some banks may charge a fee for depositing a foreign cheque; I don't think mine does. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J L Williams Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:56 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Books (was: My killer lick sheet) Having just started Horn lessons (rather late in life) I thought to get Jeff Smilty's book based on your findings. Neither he, nor his European counter-part use paypal and his european man doesn't do cheques. I'm afraid I'm stuck unless I pay extra for an international direct transfer or send cash via registered post. I had no probs with Wendell's book via paypal. Peeps over seas from these need to know this. Jim ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Rheinberger Sonata
I have a copy in stock. Please see my webpage: http://www.mayhews.us/CI/Music/Sheetmusic.htm. Just send me an email if you want to order it. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Cheuvront Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:20 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Rheinberger Sonata Hello Everyone, Does anyone have the horn part for the Rheinberger Sonata in Eb Op. 178, a scanner, and some free time? I ordered the music a few weeks ago and just found out it's on backorder. I want to put it on a recital in the near future and don't want to wait much longer to start preparing. Please reply to me off-list. Thank you in advance, Josh Cheuvront ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Rheinberger Sonata
I have a copy in stock. Please see my webpage: http://www.mayhews.us/CI/Music/Sheetmusic.htm. Just send me an email if you want to order it. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Cheuvront Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:20 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Rheinberger Sonata Hello Everyone, Does anyone have the horn part for the Rheinberger Sonata in Eb Op. 178, a scanner, and some free time? I ordered the music a few weeks ago and just found out it's on backorder. I want to put it on a recital in the near future and don't want to wait much longer to start preparing. Please reply to me off-list. Thank you in advance, Josh Cheuvront ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] "Watery" horn
It is simple chemistry. The chemicals used in cleaning the horn destroy or greatly reduce the surface tension of water. The water then does not stick, but rolls into balls of droplets which simply roll out of the horn effortlessly when you drain it, leaving a lot less stuck inside. Sort of like using RainX on the windshield of your car; then the rolls off so easily you don't even need windshield wipers during a rain storm. Cheers, Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valerie WELLS Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:25 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] "Watery" horn I have a friend who purchased a used horn. She noticed that it was very "watery", that is, it needed draining more than the horn she'd previously played. She had it professionally cleaned & it changed. It no longer was a "watery" horn. For reasons I don't quite grasp, the clean horn seems to gather less water. Maybe some of you will have some insight as to why this is so? Does built-up grease & grime promote water condensation? Is metal corrosion more hydrophillic than clean metal? "Inquiring minds want to know." Valerie, happy Balanced Embouchure student ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
