[Hornlist] Stolen horn

2008-04-17 Thread Ed Glick
A friend, who is not a member of these lists, has asked me to post this notice 
of a stolen horn:

The horn was stolen from a car in Arlington (TX) a few days ago. It's a Paxman 
25-L in yellow brass with a detachable bell - serial # 2665. The owner, 
Katherine Walden, has filed a police report and is checking the usual places -- 
pawn shops, eBay, etc. If you have any information about this horn, please 
contact either Katherine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phone 817-896-8333, or Dennis 
Houghton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phone  888-749-0210 or cell 817-602-9791

Thanks, Ed Glick

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Re: [Hornlist] Re: OT: Is there a trumpet list similar to this hornlist?

2008-01-13 Thread Ed Glick
In the winter of 1946, as part of the U.S. Army Education Program
(designed to keep us busy after the war had ended in Europe) I had the
good fortune to be sent to study horn at the Guildhall School of Music
and Drama in London. (I didn't realize how fortunate I was because my
teacher was Dennis Brain.) When I arrived at school the first day, when
some of the horn students there saw my instrument case, they asked me
what kind of a horn I had. I told them it was a Conn. (By this time I
had been transferred from an artillery outfit to the 1st Division Band
and, I think, the standard Army issue horn was the Conn 6D). No, they
asked, was it a *french* horn? I said, Yes. Then I took the horn out
of its case and they told me that what I had was a *german* horn. It
turned out that the so-called french horn referred to the peashooter,
a narrow bore horn much like a natural horn with piston valves added -
at least that's how they described it.  The german horn they referred
was the type of horn most of us play now - larger bore with rotary
valves. The students told me that at that time [1946] only three
professional horn players, Dennis Brain, his father, Aubrey (who by this
time was no longer playing because of an injury), and one other person
whose name I'm not sure of, could still get jobs playing the french
horn (the peashooter.) Incidentally, it was on this single F horn with
long-throw piston valves that Dennis Brain recorded among many other
works, the Britten Serenade, and the Beethoven Sonata.  I also heard
him on this same instrument in a live performance of a Haydn Trio in
which he nailed perfectly a high E flat (above high C). 

I don't know if Paul Kampen is still on this list, but if he is, he
could certainly add much to my reminiscences of horn playing practices
in England during the mid-1940s.

Ed Glick


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/13/2008 12:50 PM 
How I love languages!
 
When I was a kid it was always called french horn, (I remember the 
clipped 
tones of that chap on the BBC record who nearly put me off music  for
life)  
Then it changed to just horn (unless you were talking to the  general
public). 
 
But I never could understand why Americans always called any wind 
instrument 
horn (nor why you call a wind quintet a woodwind quintet,  even
though 
only a quartet of the five are woodwind).
 
Now, let's not get into a row about crotchets and minims!  :-)
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence 
(who, as a student of old english is still mourning the passing of 
words 
like forþferde and hwaet)
 
 
 
lawrenceyates.co.uk



   
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Re: [Hornlist] Kruspe question

2007-11-11 Thread Ed Glick
Richard's description of pre-WW II Kruspe horns matches, for the most part, my 
horn. I bought my double Kruspe in 1940. I was told then it was about twenty 
years old, so that would mean the horn was built around 1920. As far as I can 
see, there is nothing that looks like a typical serial number on the 
instrument; there is, however, a two digit number on the third valve assembly. 
Although it's an unusual spot for a serial number, perhaps that was meant to be 
one. In addition to the Kruspe eagle trademark, (including Ed. Kruspe 
Erfurt), there are the words New Symphony Model, Made in Germany. Because 
of this, I'd always assumed that the instrument was made primarily for export 
to the U.S. (and possibly other English speaking countries).

After about a 20 to 25 year hiatus from playing horn, I started again about a 
year and a half ago. The horn still holds its own among all the Conns, Schmids, 
Paxmans, etc., in the university's horn choir in which I've been playing. (This 
is not to say that I'm always holding my own among all of the young students 
who play those other instruments!) 

At my age (81) I won't be in the market for a new horn. I just hope that my 
horn holds up at least as long as I hope to hold up. My most immediate goal is 
to make the IHS Symposium in Denver this summer, where I'm looking forward to 
meeting many of the listers whose posts I've enjoyed reading over the past 
several years.

Ed Glick

 Richard V. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2007 2:30 AM 
Hi Dawn:

As far as I know, Kruspe horns rarely, if ever, had actual production 
serial numbers. What they often had, however, was the design patent 
number engraved on the bell below the Kruspe eagle trademark. The design 
patent number is commonly preceded by the initials D.R.G.M (Deutsches 
Reich Geschuetz Nummer), for example D.R.G.M. 1027194, which is the 
design patent number for the Kruspe New Symphony or Walter Kruspe 
full double horn (not the Horner model). Most Kruspe horn designs had 
specific design patent numbers. If you do find an actual serial number, 
I'd love to hear about it.

If the horn is engraved Made in Germany it was probably intended for 
export, not domestic use. My guess is that it predates WW2. A large 
number of German horns were imported into the United States during the 
1920s and 1930s for professional and student use. This stopped, of 
course, during the war and didn't restart until German industrial 
reconstruction in the early 1950s, and only then from the Western Zone. 
Alexander, for example, being in Mainz was in West Germany (BRD), while 
Kruspe (Erfurt) and Knopf (Markneukirchen) were in East Germany (DDR) 
and able to export to the West only in very small numbers, either under 
stringent state supervision or the occasional smuggled instrument.

You can see the current Kruspe setup on their website 
http://www.edkruspe.de/index_en.html It's a little difficult to 
navigate, but does have an English version with a brief history of the 
company.

Richard in Seattle

Dawn McCandless wrote:
 Hi, 

 Just obtained an old Single Kruspe horn.  Where would one find any serial 
 numbers?  There is a 16 on the bottom of the middle valve cap.  Is that it?  

 The horn is brass, has string rotors and says: EDKRUSPE, ERFURT and Made in 
 Germany.  It was the previous owners fathers horn and he is 85 now and they 
 guess the horn is about 65 years old.  That puts it about 1942 from those 
 estimates.

 It's not in perfect condition and, unfortunately, has hints of red rot. 
 Couple dings.  The keys were clacky, but quieted down with thick key oil.  
 Before oiling the rotors I pulled the 3 slides and they did pop when pulled 
 out.  

 It has a wonderful tone.  Guess despite it's appearance and old age problems 
 it isn't dead yet!

 Oh, I do have another question.  How did they consider these single horns 
 back then?  Was it made as a student horn as they tell people single horns 
 are now a days (at least here in the states... ).  Or, is it considered a 
 normal horn despite the fact it is a single horn in F?  


 Dawn Marie
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