[Hornlist] Alexander Horn restoration

2005-05-14 Thread Paul Rincon
Hello!

I am considering several shops to restore an Alexander 103 I found at a
local middle school, any experiences (both positive and negative) with these
shops would be very helpful in determining where to send it to.

The shops I am considering are: Osmun
Lawson
Ken Pope repair
and Dan Oberloh wind repair up in Seattle

If any of you can recommend shop and give me your experiences with them, I
would be most grateful.


Thanks

Paul R.



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Re: [Hornlist] Alexander Horn restoration

2005-05-14 Thread Alan Cole
I have no doubt that all 4 shops are top notch.  I wouldn't hesitate at 
commissioning any of them do to an end-to-end Alexander 103 
restoration.  That goes for the Patterson horn works out in L.A.  the 
Atkinson folks in Burbank as well.

As it turns out, the only Alexander 103 restoration project with which I 
have direct experience is the extremely successful restoration-modification 
job done on my circa-1958 Alexander 103 by Lawson Brass Instruments of 
Boonsboro, Maryland, USA -- http://www.lawsonhorns.com/

That was close to 20 years ago  the horn still plays better than new -- 
way better.

The restoration consisted of plating  refitting the rotors, plus extensive 
dent repair  correction of the misaligned central valve-tube midsection of 
the horn, a defect caused by broken solder joints in some critical places 
-- a common problem with those horns, according to Mr. Lawson, who said 
he's seen plenty of'm broken that same way -- even had 1 like that 
himself.  (The solder-break problem  some of the dents could be the result 
of using 1 of those minimally protective typical Alexander upside-down 
hardened-cardboard horn cases, I suspect.)

Modifications were replacement of the stock leadpipe (which was shot 
anyway) with a custom made Lawson leadpipe, slight lengthening of the main 
tuning slide (about 1 inch), screw bell conversion,  installation of a 
Lawson ambronze bell flare sized to fit the 1958 Alexander (i.e, somewhat 
smaller than a Lawson bell made to fit a Lawson horn, but with a compatible 
screw ring).  And not only that, I replaced the original Alexander 
instrument case -- basically just the functional equivalent of a hardened 
gig bag -- with a highly protective custom-fit flat case, complete with 
blue nylon zipper raincoat-style case cover.

The only thing I didn't get done was replacement of the original set of 
1-piece 1-2-3 valve levers with  a set of articulated valve levers like the 
ones on Yamaha  Lawson horns,  no doubt certain others,  that hinge right 
there at the right angle in back.  Also, for some reason I'm not able to 
explain I didn't want the Alexander 103 valve levers adorned with silver 
coins, either, even though I've had'm soldered onto several other horns in 
the years since.

(Feel free to E-Mail me on- or off-list for my 4 good reasons to have 
silver coins installed as touchpieces on horn valve levers.)

Results of the Lawson restoration  modification of the old Alexander 103 
were -- are -- so successful that after a few years the devil made me 
spring for a (used) Lawson 804 that's now my main horn (although the 
restored Lawson-Alex is a close 2nd). I was surprised to find a Lawson 804 
on the used market.  That is, those horns play so well  sound so good -- 
why would any horn player who owns 1 ever let it go?  In this case it turns 
out the original owner of my used Lawson 804 in effect traded it in on a 
different Lawson model.

For horn players of minimal talent  incomplete training -- i.e., like me 
-- a real nice thing about using a high-quality professional instrument in 
top condition is the secure knowledge that any performance problems I 
encounter are due to my own inadequacies  not those of the horn.

-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
 
At 10:56 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote:
Hello!
I am considering several shops to restore an Alexander 103 I found at a
local middle school, any experiences (both positive and negative) with these
shops would be very helpful in determining where to send it to.
The shops I am considering are: Osmun
Lawson
Ken Pope repair
and Dan Oberloh wind repair up in Seattle
If any of you can recommend shop and give me your experiences with them, I
would be most grateful.
Thanks
Paul R.


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Re: [Hornlist] Alexander Horn restoration

2005-05-14 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 5/14/2005 7:56:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I am considering several shops to restore an Alexander 103 I found at a
 local middle school, any experiences (both positive and negative) with these
 shops would be very helpful in determining where to send it to.
 

Bob did my son's Reynolds Contempora bass trombone and knew exactly how to 
modify it to take away the 'stuffiness' without compromising the extraordinary 
Reynolds sound.  Another shop that does superb work, especially if it's an 
older Alex, is Robb Stewart, near Los Angeles.  He has a web site that shows 
off 
his work.  I played a Kruspe he restored that was stunning.

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