Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Yes, right - these other instrumentalists also have to learn to
coordinate their finger movements with other parts of their bodies;
woodwinds face the very same problem of excess finger movement above
their keys and little holes as do hornplaying paddlewhackers. I haven't
ever noticed any though who look all stiff-fingered and slap-happy.
And how about string bass players in bluegrass bands? They often get so
excited as to whack their strings so hard that they double as percussion
instruments. It is a joy to behold. Probably wouldn't go over well
with our more sedate kind of music.
Bill Gross just pointed out a real problem from paddlewhacking - the
beginning of the note might be out of sync with the valve movement, so
that the entrance would split the note. Whack & quack, so to speak; but
I think that the tongue would soon learn to compensate.
Another danger now occurs to me - if you whack your paddles, you run an
increased risk of breaking the strings. Only hornists who play on
all-metal valved horns should whack. Since this type of valve probably
already clanks, the increased volume from real good whacking could be
used musically to good effect. Composers, take note.
hans wrote:
Davide, what would woodwinds do or violinists ?
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Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a
valve if your finger begins its motion above the valve
rather than on it? I'm not sure. It takes time for the
finger to accelerate - the acceleration should be faster
cutting through air, as there is less resistance. The
finger is then already in motion and so it will hammer the
lever rather than push against it - the valve would offer
increased resistance and perhaps open mostly under
deceleration instead of acceleration.
Confirming all this would take some experiment, requiring
different people and different fingers on the same person,
also trying it for different spring strengths. There must
be a range of time within which most of us depress a valve.
What exactly is 'bad' about this habit?
That is, what detrimental effect occurs? Other than
annoying your section mates, of course. How, if at all,
does the music suffer?
And what about removing your finger from a valve? Does your
finger leave the lever at the end of the motion? Does it
take more or less time to raise the lever than to lower it?
Are fingers faster than springs?
Maybe some day valves will be controlled by servo-motors so
that all you have to do is to touch or put pressure on a
contact plate and the motor will then switch the valve
faster than you can. Maybe not - people with nervous muscle
tics would play some strange melodies. And you would have
to check your batteries before every session.
All of the above is asked non-judgmentally, in a spirit of
experiment.
But I do have reservations about taping your fingers to the
levers.
What would happen if you suddenly and unthinkingly try to
stifle a sneeze? That might be the end of your horn, your
face, and the person on your left. But you would become a
celebrity on the Duct-Tape website (
http://thezac.com/ducttape/ , for one).
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RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Only one way to find out, I'll stick to it till I have an answer. I think the idea is not to affix the finger to the paddle rather to help remind the player not to move his finger off the paddle. It should help me focus on not moving the finger off the paddle. Right now it really is frustrating. It happens in one figure as I play middle line C to middle line C#. All fingers in place on the C, but when I depress 2&3 from the c# the index finger pops up. > But how about allergies against the glue > == > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem > > The double tape does seem better than the rubber band. > It'll allow the player to keep his fingers arched like a > pianist, instead of laying flat on the paddle > >> Great method, but does it really help, if the students > idols >> - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers > up in the air >> not only when playing solo, but also in the orchestra > Well, left >> hand fingers, just to be exact here >> >> I had a masterclass once in Japan, at a very famous > university. The >> student had all slides in, full in, except the tuning > slide, and he >> played an Alex103 (what else in Japan). So I asked him, > why he had all >> slides full in. He responded, the two Czech brothers were > doing the >> same & they were his idols . No wonder, they had to > play with that >> large vibrato then . >> >> > >> == >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of >> Melvin Baldwin >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:55 PM >> To: horn@music.memphis.edu >> Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: The Horn List >>>To: "'The Horn List'" >>>Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, >> 25 Jan 2007 >>>20:17:51 -0600 >>> >>>Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've >> developed. When I >>>play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I >> have started >>>to left my index finger off the first valve. This means >> I've got to >>>move it much further to get the valve to respond. I > figure >> there are >>>some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a >> second >>>person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no >> one is >>>willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this >> is not an >>>option. >>> >>>So any suggestions on how to break this habit? >>> >>> >>> >>>___ >>>post: horn@music.memphis.edu >>>unsubscribe or set options at >>>http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldw > i >> n%40hotmail. >>>com >> >> I know of a certain horn professor who used double-sided > tape to help >> one of his horn students keep his fingers in contact with > the valves. >> Melvin >> >> > >> _ >>>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN >> Entertainment Guide to >>>the >> Academy AwardsR >> > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline >> 1 >> >> ___ >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> unsubscribe or set options at >> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. >> de >> >> ___ >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> unsubscribe or set options at >> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airm > ail.net >> >> > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > de > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
But how about allergies against the glue == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem The double tape does seem better than the rubber band. It'll allow the player to keep his fingers arched like a pianist, instead of laying flat on the paddle > Great method, but does it really help, if the students idols > - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers up in the air > not only when playing solo, but also in the orchestra Well, left > hand fingers, just to be exact here > > I had a masterclass once in Japan, at a very famous university. The > student had all slides in, full in, except the tuning slide, and he > played an Alex103 (what else in Japan). So I asked him, why he had all > slides full in. He responded, the two Czech brothers were doing the > same & they were his idols . No wonder, they had to play with that > large vibrato then . > > > == > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Melvin Baldwin > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:55 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem > > > > >>From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: The Horn List >>To: "'The Horn List'" >>Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, > 25 Jan 2007 >>20:17:51 -0600 >> >>Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've > developed. When I >>play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I > have started >>to left my index finger off the first valve. This means > I've got to >>move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure > there are >>some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a > second >>person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no > one is >>willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this > is not an >>option. >> >>So any suggestions on how to break this habit? >> >> >> >>___ >>post: horn@music.memphis.edu >>unsubscribe or set options at >>http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldw i > n%40hotmail. >>com > > I know of a certain horn professor who used double-sided tape to help > one of his horn students keep his fingers in contact with the valves. > Melvin > > > _ >>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN > Entertainment Guide to >>the > Academy AwardsR > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline > 1 > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > de > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airm ail.net > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Davide, what would woodwinds do or violinists ?
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Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a
valve if your finger begins its motion above the valve
rather than on it? I'm not sure. It takes time for the
finger to accelerate - the acceleration should be faster
cutting through air, as there is less resistance. The
finger is then already in motion and so it will hammer the
lever rather than push against it - the valve would offer
increased resistance and perhaps open mostly under
deceleration instead of acceleration.
Confirming all this would take some experiment, requiring
different people and different fingers on the same person,
also trying it for different spring strengths. There must
be a range of time within which most of us depress a valve.
What exactly is 'bad' about this habit?
That is, what detrimental effect occurs? Other than
annoying your section mates, of course. How, if at all,
does the music suffer?
And what about removing your finger from a valve? Does your
finger leave the lever at the end of the motion? Does it
take more or less time to raise the lever than to lower it?
Are fingers faster than springs?
Maybe some day valves will be controlled by servo-motors so
that all you have to do is to touch or put pressure on a
contact plate and the motor will then switch the valve
faster than you can. Maybe not - people with nervous muscle
tics would play some strange melodies. And you would have
to check your batteries before every session.
All of the above is asked non-judgmentally, in a spirit of
experiment.
But I do have reservations about taping your fingers to the
levers.
What would happen if you suddenly and unthinkingly try to
stifle a sneeze? That might be the end of your horn, your
face, and the person on your left. But you would become a
celebrity on the Duct-Tape website (
http://thezac.com/ducttape/ , for one).
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{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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[Hornlist] Fixing a fingering problem
Carlberg J wrote >So any suggestions on how to break this habit? [lifting a finger off >the valve lever] I've had good luck with students with a rubber band around the valve lever and the finger. Good to be aware of things like this. Good thinking, Carlberg. Another successful way to use a rubber band is to zap your student with it the moment the miscreant's finger leaves the lever. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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The bad is letting tounging and fingering getting out of sync.
> Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a valve if
> your finger begins its motion above the valve rather than on it? I'm
> not sure. It takes time for the finger to accelerate - the acceleration
> should be faster cutting through air, as there is less resistance. The
> finger is then already in motion and so it will hammer the lever rather
> than push against it - the valve would offer increased resistance and
> perhaps open mostly under deceleration instead of acceleration.
> Confirming all this would take some experiment, requiring different
> people and different fingers on the same person, also trying it for
> different spring strengths. There must be a range of time within which
> most of us depress a valve. What exactly is 'bad' about this habit?
> That is, what detrimental effect occurs? Other than annoying your
> section mates, of course. How, if at all, does the music suffer?
>
> And what about removing your finger from a valve? Does your finger
> leave the lever at the end of the motion? Does it take more or less
> time to raise the lever than to lower it? Are fingers faster than
> springs?
>
> Maybe some day valves will be controlled by servo-motors so that all you
> have to do is to touch or put pressure on a contact plate and the motor
> will then switch the valve faster than you can. Maybe not - people with
> nervous muscle tics would play some strange melodies. And you would
> have to check your batteries before every session.
>
> All of the above is asked non-judgmentally, in a spirit of experiment.
> But I do have reservations about taping your fingers to the levers.
> What would happen if you suddenly and unthinkingly try to stifle a
> sneeze? That might be the end of your horn, your face, and the person
> on your left. But you would become a celebrity on the Duct-Tape website
> ( http://thezac.com/ducttape/ , for one).
>
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RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
The double tape does seem better than the rubber band. It'll allow the player to keep his fingers arched like a pianist, instead of laying flat on the paddle > Great method, but does it really help, if the students idols > - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers up > in the air not only when playing solo, but also in the > orchestra Well, left hand fingers, just to be exact > here > > I had a masterclass once in Japan, at a very famous > university. The student had all slides in, full in, except > the tuning slide, and he played an Alex103 (what else in > Japan). So I asked him, why he had all slides full in. He > responded, the two Czech brothers were doing the same & they > were his idols . No wonder, they had to play with that > large vibrato then . > > > == > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Melvin Baldwin > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:55 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem > > > > >>From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: The Horn List >>To: "'The Horn List'" >>Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, > 25 Jan 2007 >>20:17:51 -0600 >> >>Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've > developed. When I >>play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I > have started >>to left my index finger off the first valve. This means > I've got to >>move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure > there are >>some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a > second >>person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no > one is >>willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this > is not an >>option. >> >>So any suggestions on how to break this habit? >> >> >> >>___ >>post: horn@music.memphis.edu >>unsubscribe or set options at >>http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwi > n%40hotmail. >>com > > I know of a certain horn professor who used double-sided > tape to help one of his horn students keep his fingers in > contact with the valves. > Melvin > > > _ >>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN > Entertainment Guide to >>the > Academy AwardsR > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline > 1 > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > de > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a valve if
your finger begins its motion above the valve rather than on it? I'm
not sure. It takes time for the finger to accelerate - the acceleration
should be faster cutting through air, as there is less resistance. The
finger is then already in motion and so it will hammer the lever rather
than push against it - the valve would offer increased resistance and
perhaps open mostly under deceleration instead of acceleration.
Confirming all this would take some experiment, requiring different
people and different fingers on the same person, also trying it for
different spring strengths. There must be a range of time within which
most of us depress a valve. What exactly is 'bad' about this habit?
That is, what detrimental effect occurs? Other than annoying your
section mates, of course. How, if at all, does the music suffer?
And what about removing your finger from a valve? Does your finger
leave the lever at the end of the motion? Does it take more or less
time to raise the lever than to lower it? Are fingers faster than springs?
Maybe some day valves will be controlled by servo-motors so that all you
have to do is to touch or put pressure on a contact plate and the motor
will then switch the valve faster than you can. Maybe not - people with
nervous muscle tics would play some strange melodies. And you would
have to check your batteries before every session.
All of the above is asked non-judgmentally, in a spirit of experiment.
But I do have reservations about taping your fingers to the levers.
What would happen if you suddenly and unthinkingly try to stifle a
sneeze? That might be the end of your horn, your face, and the person
on your left. But you would become a celebrity on the Duct-Tape website
( http://thezac.com/ducttape/ , for one).
{ David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Great method, but does it really help, if the students idols - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers up in the air not only when playing solo, but also in the orchestra Well, left hand fingers, just to be exact here I had a masterclass once in Japan, at a very famous university. The student had all slides in, full in, except the tuning slide, and he played an Alex103 (what else in Japan). So I asked him, why he had all slides full in. He responded, the two Czech brothers were doing the same & they were his idols . No wonder, they had to play with that large vibrato then . == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melvin Baldwin Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem >From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Horn List >To: "'The Horn List'" >Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 >20:17:51 -0600 > >Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I >play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started >to left my index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to >move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are >some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a second >person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no one is >willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this is not an >option. > >So any suggestions on how to break this habit? > > > >___ >post: horn@music.memphis.edu >unsubscribe or set options at >http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwi n%40hotmail. >com I know of a certain horn professor who used double-sided tape to help one of his horn students keep his fingers in contact with the valves. Melvin _ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to >the Academy AwardsR http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline 1 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: "'The Horn List'" Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:17:51 -0600 Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started to left my index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a second person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no one is willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this is not an option. So any suggestions on how to break this habit? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/melvinbaldwin%40hotmail.com I know of a certain horn professor who used double-sided tape to help one of his horn students keep his fingers in contact with the valves. Melvin _ From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Rubber band fixing the finger on the key or instant glue or brain surgery. Why is it so difficult to break a certain habit ? Decide to break it, make it a permanent decision. It works. It works against smoking & works against other drugs. Just decide & like your decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gross Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:18 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started to left my index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a second person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no one is willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this is not an option. So any suggestions on how to break this habit? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Postage due, of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem There's also the coin trick: you put a coin between the finger and the spatula. If the coin falls off, you send it to me. Herb Foster --- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play > ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started to left my > index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to move it much > further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are some techniques > that approach S&M in nature and require a second person, electronic devices > and aversion therapy. Since no one is willing to be in the same room when I > practice I find this is not an option. > > So any suggestions on how to break this habit? > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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There's also the coin trick: you put a coin between the finger and the spatula. If the coin falls off, you send it to me. Herb Foster --- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play > ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started to left my > index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to move it much > further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are some techniques > that approach S&M in nature and require a second person, electronic devices > and aversion therapy. Since no one is willing to be in the same room when I > practice I find this is not an option. > > So any suggestions on how to break this habit? > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Thanks, I'll give it a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlberg Jones Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:31 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem At 8:17 PM -0600 1/25/07, Bill Gross wrote: >So any suggestions on how to break this habit? [lifting a finger off >the valve lever] I've had good luck with students with a rubber band around the valve lever and the finger. Good to be aware of things like this. -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
At 8:17 PM -0600 1/25/07, Bill Gross wrote: So any suggestions on how to break this habit? [lifting a finger off the valve lever] I've had good luck with students with a rubber band around the valve lever and the finger. Good to be aware of things like this. -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem
Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note patterns I have started to left my index finger off the first valve. This means I've got to move it much further to get the valve to respond. I figure there are some techniques that approach S&M in nature and require a second person, electronic devices and aversion therapy. Since no one is willing to be in the same room when I practice I find this is not an option. So any suggestions on how to break this habit? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
