RE: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines
A couple years ago, the musician's union (in the U.S.) negotiated an arrangement with the Dept. of Transportation to allow instruments to be brought on board. There were a couple of letters available thru the union, one from the Transportation Dept., the other from the union that both confirmed this arrangement, so that these can be copied and produced at the airport to remind airline and security personnel of this. You might be able to find these on the AFM website and print them off. Failing that, you might want to call ahead and explain your situation and ask them if they are aware of the agreement between the Trans Dept and the union...this might speed up the process when you arrive at airport. Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lament at the check-in, that you need the horn unharmed for a concert next day it might be stored in one of the spezial storage bins on board NOT in the luggage compartments with all the other luggage. If you notify your airline about the size of the case that it is a musical instrument, it works also. Be at the security check well in time, as they may inspect the horn specially (for bullets inside the tubings, yes no joke, I had to remove the slides blow through the horn once). Wrapping the horn in bubble plastic sheet packing it into a strong box, well, it works well for a long distance overseas flight, but how to get rid of the box, when continuing your journey by train ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines Does anyone know if you can get a standard conn 8d case in carry on storage on most standard 7-- jets? thanks, Ron ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines
In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:51:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple years ago, the musician's union (in the U.S.) negotiated an arrangement with the Dept. of Transportation to allow instruments to be brought on board. The actual ruling allows you to carry on an instrument, and it will not count as one of your carry on items. Just remember, that this ruling by the FAA in association with the AFM applies only to instruments that already meet the carry on guidelines. You can't carry on a tuba or a string bass and expect them to stow it up front next to the peanuts and behind the coffee maker. Fixed bell horn cases will never meet these guidelines, nor will many cut bell cases. But, even though it doesn't meet the guidelines, it's not off by much in most situations. Getting a horn case on board, no matter what the design, can sometimes be a breeze, and sometimes be a pain. Be persistent and insistent, but polite, and the crew will almost always accomodate your request to carry on and stow your horn. Let them know what it is and how valuable it is (and don't be afraid to exaggerate its value - they don't know). Don't forget that these crew sometimes deal with real jerks who insist that they carry on half the gift shop from Disney World in the fifteen steamer trunks they just bought at Walmart - just so they won't have to wait at the baggage claim area. A little bit of consideration toward the crew can go a long way. (I know it's a little bit big, but it's my livelihood and extremely valuable. I need it tomorrow for a concert. Could you please help me stow it conveniently here in the cabin? It has always fit before.) Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn case on ailines
Does anyone know if you can get a standard conn 8d case in carry on storage on most standard 7-- jets? thanks, Ron ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines
I've been on many 7-- jets, and I have a Conn8D with standard case. And I'm thinking no...sorry, wrap it in bubble tape and send it off? -Cayce On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:20:10 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a standard conn 8d case in carry on storage on most standard 7-- jets? thanks, Ron ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/taiven%40gmail.com -- A chief event of life is the day in which we have encountered a mind that startled us. When your life falls apart, always remember that I will be the one who will stay to help you pick the pieces up. When the rest of the world walks out on you, remember not to close the door because I am the one who will be walking in to help you through it all. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines
Lament at the check-in, that you need the horn unharmed for a concert next day it might be stored in one of the spezial storage bins on board NOT in the luggage compartments with all the other luggage. If you notify your airline about the size of the case that it is a musical instrument, it works also. Be at the security check well in time, as they may inspect the horn specially (for bullets inside the tubings, yes no joke, I had to remove the slides blow through the horn once). Wrapping the horn in bubble plastic sheet packing it into a strong box, well, it works well for a long distance overseas flight, but how to get rid of the box, when continuing your journey by train ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Horn case on ailines Does anyone know if you can get a standard conn 8d case in carry on storage on most standard 7-- jets? thanks, Ron ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
