Re: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
Anybody know anything about the Conn 8D having this...erm... Factory dust of some sort? Jon From: Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 18:50:30 -0800 (PST) Often I'll give my leadpipe a good squirt of valve juice and blow and wiggle to simply oil my valves! Works pretty well too. Chris --- Graeme Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there would be much factory dirt in a Yamaha horn, but I would > strongly advise pouring a teaspoon or so of valve oil (eg. Al Cass) down the > mouthpipe, and blowing it vigourously through the horn while wriggling the > valve levers. This will spread it in a mist over the inside of the horn and > help to prevent corrosion. Follow this up with light machine oil on the top > and bottom bearings. > > This is something I do frequently to my horns, and I have managed to greatly > limit green copper carbonate deposit build up. > > One horn I have had from new has no corrosion whatsoever. > > Cheers, > > Graeme Evans > (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) > +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:54 PM > Subject: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance > > > >Hello everyone, > >I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I > have > > to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. > >Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn > from > > constructing it? > >Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of > the > > horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? > > > >Thanks, > >Mike > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/graev%40comcen.com.au > > > > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/blackjackcajun%40hotmail.com _ Find gifts, buy online with MSN Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com.sg/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
Often I'll give my leadpipe a good squirt of valve juice and blow and wiggle to simply oil my valves! Works pretty well too. Chris --- Graeme Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there would be much factory dirt in a Yamaha horn, but I would > strongly advise pouring a teaspoon or so of valve oil (eg. Al Cass) down the > mouthpipe, and blowing it vigourously through the horn while wriggling the > valve levers. This will spread it in a mist over the inside of the horn and > help to prevent corrosion. Follow this up with light machine oil on the top > and bottom bearings. > > This is something I do frequently to my horns, and I have managed to greatly > limit green copper carbonate deposit build up. > > One horn I have had from new has no corrosion whatsoever. > > Cheers, > > Graeme Evans > (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) > +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:54 PM > Subject: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance > > > >Hello everyone, > >I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I > have > > to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. > >Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn > from > > constructing it? > >Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of > the > > horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? > > > >Thanks, > >Mike > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/graev%40comcen.com.au > > > > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
Graeme, your advice is absolutely to be supported. As far as myself, I have not done it to any of my horns & cannot find any corrosion on any of my horns, but this is absolutely individual & has much to do with the content of acid in your breath or in the moist produced. Also the ph value in your sweat is source of corrosion. I recently got an old horn used by a colleague who produced a lot of "cold" sweat. The nickel silver hand shield & the shield on the lead pipe are merely eaten away. Watering the horn most carefully after playing is essential for the life span of the horn. Avoiding acidic (gas !!!) refreshment drinks just before playing might help also to avoid corrosion. The main source for corrosion (besides wrong maintenance) might be the use of cheap metal & careless handling during the manufacturing process. But this should not happen with instruments above cheapest band level. Anyway, your advice is excellent & I will recommend it also. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Evans Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:06 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance I don't think there would be much factory dirt in a Yamaha horn, but I would strongly advise pouring a teaspoon or so of valve oil (eg. Al Cass) down the mouthpipe, and blowing it vigourously through the horn while wriggling the valve levers. This will spread it in a mist over the inside of the horn and help to prevent corrosion. Follow this up with light machine oil on the top and bottom bearings. This is something I do frequently to my horns, and I have managed to greatly limit green copper carbonate deposit build up. One horn I have had from new has no corrosion whatsoever. Cheers, Graeme Evans (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance >Hello everyone, >I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I have > to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. >Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn from > constructing it? >Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of the > horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? > >Thanks, >Mike > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/graev%40comcen.com.au > > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
Who told you the nonsense about "factory dust" ?? As far as I know, all instruments are chemically cleaned, special if they are lacquered. But rinsing the instrument (NOT brushing) from backwards (filling water into the bell & turn the horn around until the water comes off the front hole) will not harm but have also the benefit of moisture the horn as it comes from the factory completely dry. Do not forget to add a very mild detergent (liquid dish cleaner) to the water; may-be after inserting the first three four cups of water. Clean the water off the horn carefully to avoid water drop marks. Have fun with your new horn. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance Hello everyone, I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I have to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn from constructing it? Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of the horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? Thanks, Mike ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
I don't think there would be much factory dirt in a Yamaha horn, but I would strongly advise pouring a teaspoon or so of valve oil (eg. Al Cass) down the mouthpipe, and blowing it vigourously through the horn while wriggling the valve levers. This will spread it in a mist over the inside of the horn and help to prevent corrosion. Follow this up with light machine oil on the top and bottom bearings. This is something I do frequently to my horns, and I have managed to greatly limit green copper carbonate deposit build up. One horn I have had from new has no corrosion whatsoever. Cheers, Graeme Evans (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: [Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance >Hello everyone, >I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I have > to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. >Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn from > constructing it? >Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of the > horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? > >Thanks, >Mike > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/graev%40comcen.com.au > > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] New Horn Maintenance
Hello everyone, I just recieved my new Yamaha YHR668NDII, and was wondering if I have to take it into the shop to get the so called "factory dust" cleaned out. Is it true that this dirt or whatever it is, is in the new horn from constructing it? Can I just attach a little bath hose to the mouthpiece reciever of the horn and flush it out with water? Would that suffice in clearing it out? Thanks, Mike ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
