[Hornlist] Re: natural horn rental
Responding to: I've been playing it on my modern horn (in Eb), as if it were a natural horn, but it would be really neat if I could get my hands on a real natural horn for the recital (and a bit before so I can practice with it). Idaho is the anti-culture center of the world (and our campus currently does not own a natural horn), so does anyone know of any way I can rent a natural horn from someone/someplace nearby? Also, if I can't find one, what suggestions do people have for making a modern horn feel/sound more like a natural horn (I know it won't sound the same, but even a little closer would be better than nothing). I've heard that removing all unnecessary slides helps, is this true? Thanks, Heather Response: I am quite fond of Idaho, I drive through a couple of time each summer it seems there are some nice places, but maybe not Eastern Idaho. I know of a natural horn with crooks for sale Lowell Greer always seems to have one for sale too. Contact me off list. If you cant find one for your recital, I dont think removing the valves does anything, except clue the audience in to the fact that you dont have valve pipes, which is a good idea. I did quite a lot with a single F horn without the valves before I got a Jurachek (sp?) hand horn, only to learn that the bore of those horns just isnt correct for a true copy. My hand isnt correct either; it is in general bigger than the average hand size of 200 years ago. The key is that a true natural horn will be of smaller bore size and more gradually tapered throughout the horn. Fewer slides means there can be less straight sections of tubing. But there are many varieties of old horns. For a recital I played this Summer I did play a natural horn work on my valve horn, but changed my mouthpiece to my sheet metal one. This makes a big difference for me, it evens the colour out . . . Richard Burdick ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Natural Horn
Hi Robert, You've got a natural horn sitting right there with you now -- your modern horn, conveniently crooked in keys from B basso to Bb alto! This article talks about basic technique and the hand positions you need to learn: http://www.compositiontoday.com/articles/natural_horn.asp Once you have figured out scales and can get the notes well you can work up a slow movement of a Mozart concerto or something. For some people this comes naturally -- in a matter of minutes after being introduced to the concepts, they can play diatonic melodies. Others it may take a few days of practice to understand. For your performance, you might choose the Beethoven horn sonata. It's relatively easy, both for the chops and for the hand (few difficult notes), and since it is written for horn in F it is trivial to convert from your modern horn knowledge to your growing feel for the natural horn. If you are really set on playing a valveless horn for the 18th century society ball, you could always get a cheap used single horn and have a repairman perform a valvectomy. Hope this helps. Marc Here in Sweden I'm involved in a 18'th century society, that annually hosts balls and other fun events. There's always a concert on these occasions, and being a hornplayer, I'd love to contribute by playing something on a natural horn. Unfortunately natural horns are expensive, hard to borrow, and noone I've talked to is able to give lessons on how to play it. Then there's the question of repertoire. I'm an amateur myself, and though I've had the pleasure of playing many great works, I'd need something that didn't require being a virtuoso. Any suggestions of repertoire, or maybe some tips on where to look? Regards, Robert Behrer -- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn End of Horn Digest, Vol 54, Issue 26 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Natural Horn Reiche Trio Recording
They had only one left. I hope my wife got it :-). Herb Foster If not, Herb, give jpc.de a try: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/ detail/-/hnum/9718944 Bill Melton Hauset (B) / Sinfonie Orchester Aachen (D) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Natural horn
http://orchard.wccnet.org/~goldberg/music/ Go here to see another instrument that a clarinet is not; click on clarinet.GIF If you click on vhorn.GIF, you will see a real instrument that I heard in a street band in Prague - I posted this before, but IE users were not able to see it. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College } { Ann Arbor Michigan } [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendell R wrote Understanding, getting a feel for and manipulating the natural harmonics is what it is all about. That's how a horn works. Its not a clarinet. Think about it. *** Tres insightful, Wendell. At last I can understand why my French File Cut Rico Royal No. 2 1/2 reeds keep falling out of my Farkas MDC mouthpiece. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Natural horn
Wendell R wrote Understanding, getting a feel for and manipulating the natural harmonics is what it is all about. That's how a horn works. Its not a clarinet. Think about it. *** Tres insightful, Wendell. At last I can understand why my French File Cut Rico Royal No. 2 1/2 reeds keep falling out of my Farkas MDC mouthpiece. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Natural horn
For anybody really interested in Natural horn there is a yahoo group for Natural Horn. It is a small and infrequent item in my email. New members are welcome. We would really like to know about natural horn performances before they happen. Richard Burdick 1st Horn Regina Symphony Regina, SK Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Natural horn mouthpieces
Moosewood makes copies of a few of Lowell's mouthpieces. He makes both Courtois and Raoux copies. http://www.hornmouthpiece.com/nathorn.htm The Jack Attack! - I'm looking for a natural horn mouthpiece. My school has 4 Lowell Greer natural horns but they never did buy mouthpieces for them. They have a narrow bore, so I was thinking that some sort of Viennese style horn would be appropriate? If so, where can I purchase one? -William ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: natural horn recordings of valved horn music
Didn't John Wunderlich record it. Or was that which broke his recorder? Herb Foster --- nancy bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard B. asked: Have any of our wonderful natural horn artists recorded valved horn music such as the two Strauss Concertos? Gee Leonard, I don't know, but I did hear Professor Gestopftmitscheist play the Gliere on natural horn a couple of years ago. Oh. My. God. Too bad no one recorded the performance :-) Nan Bremer Columbia City, Indiana, USA Principal horn, Manchester Symphony Orchestra Appleseed Woodwind Quintet - Fifth horn, Ill Wind Horn Quartet... Call me for bookings, 555-1212 :-) _ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: natural horn recordings of valved horn music
Leonard B. asked: Have any of our wonderful natural horn artists recorded valved horn music such as the two Strauss Concertos? Gee Leonard, I don't know, but I did hear Professor Gestopftmitscheist play the Gliere on natural horn a couple of years ago. Oh. My. God. Too bad no one recorded the performance :-) Nan Bremer Columbia City, Indiana, USA Principal horn, Manchester Symphony Orchestra Appleseed Woodwind Quintet - Fifth horn, Ill Wind Horn Quartet... Call me for bookings, 555-1212 :-) _ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org