Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you realize you are speaking of the Official State Bird of California. They can be seen in abundance all along our highways and byways, usually in pairs. Umm, could this be the same as the Hawaiian Good Luck Sign? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
In a message dated 12/9/2003 8:53:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I hope you realize you are speaking of the Official State Bird of > California. They can be seen in abundance all along our highways and byways, > usually > in pairs. That's nothing. In England you have to do it with the other arm... -William ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
In a message dated 12/9/2003 2:35:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Clayton Whetmore, here: > Hans Pizka wrote: > > >What´s the matter with 6 fingers ? The sixth one is just there to show > >YOU THE DIRTY FINGER ! > > > Ah, the worth of a bird in the hand over two in the bush! > I hope you realize you are speaking of the Official State Bird of California. They can be seen in abundance all along our highways and byways, usually in pairs. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
Clayton Whetmore, here: Hans Pizka wrote: What´s the matter with 6 fingers ? The sixth one is just there to show YOU THE DIRTY FINGER ! Ah, the worth of a bird in the hand over two in the bush! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
Clayton Whetmore, here: Julio de la Rosa wrote: John: Sorry to hear that you have 6 fingers. Is that on just one hand or both? Julio de la Rosa If these are functional fingers on the left hand they just might make for some interesting options in configuring triple horn wraps and valve and paddle placement. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
The Jack Attack writes: "William writes: No that is only my opinion. It is not the most pertinent sentence I have made on that subject since it is only opinion." The thought struck me that someone may just be mixing up "pertinent" and "impertinent". (Excuse me if it's me being impertinent now!) All the best, Graham ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
Har dee har har... Octave key? I thought a flipper or a duck's foot was the official octave key :) (If you don't get it, think about how much pressure it enables you to incorrectly use to play higher notes.) -William In a message dated 12/8/2003 11:40:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Just the one hand. I was the star's stand in for the Princess Bride ;-P > > Thanks for the clarification Julio. A side note, it makes it easier to > play those five valve instruments with a pinky hook. I can still use as > much of the "octave key" as I desire > > The Jack Attack! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
What´s the matter with 6 fingers ? The sixth one is just there to show YOU THE DIRTY FINGER ! = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdelarosa Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:10 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic John: Sorry to hear that you have 6 fingers. Is that on just one hand or both? Julio de la Rosa ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
Julio wrote: Sorry to hear that you have 6 fingers. Is that on just one hand or both? ** Just the one hand. I was the star's stand in for the Princess Bride ;-P Thanks for the clarification Julio. A side note, it makes it easier to play those five valve instruments with a pinky hook. I can still use as much of the "octave key" as I desire The Jack Attack! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
John: Sorry to hear that you have 6 fingers. Is that on just one hand or both? Julio de la Rosa - Original Message - From: "John Dutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic > William writes: > No that is only my opinion. It is not the most pertinent sentence I have > made > on that subject since it is only opinion. > > When you point the finger at someone you have 4 fingers pointing back at > you. > > ** > The semantics of your statement are correct. In my opinion the reality > of my statement is also correct. Read on... > > I completely concur with your four fingers statement as well. Now, I > was not intending some great egregious attack on your person or > arguments or even doing utter (udder? I am milking this then?) than > making a comment upon the thread. I was merely amused at the sheer > determination of your postings to change everyone's mind to your > opinion. At no point did anyone ever say to you that you were a loon > for liking mechanical linkage. Also, no one is deriding your harmonic > series chart either. Research is a wonderful thing and knowing where > the harmonics sit in relationship to each other is admirable when it is > both intellectual knowledge and practical knowledge. There is sometimes > a danger with research however in that we fail to maintain or advance > the practical knowledge at the same rate of study. The beauty and > simplicity of the math then become their own lure of distraction. > Still, I am not attacking either your opinions or your quests for > knowledge. A well reasoned opinion is a great thing. Often it is what > spurs our research into both the outer and inner perceptions we have of > our world. Would you have done all your quantification of theory on > valve linkage if, like many of us, the linkage doesn't seem to affect > how we play the instrument provided it works as it should and so is > merely a preference and not a hindrance? By the way, my main horn has > string linkage. After 20 years of orchestral performance I have never > had a string break in performance. Does this mean it will never happen? > Logically, no it does not. Thank goodness it hasn't happen any of the > times I have played Bruckner 4 on 1st. Maintenance of any mechanical > device is always a requirement whether strings or miniballs or the > bearings (as our recent young poster has now discovered). > > The above comments not withstanding, I like a lively discussion so keep > plugging away there William. It is nice to see the next generation so > passionate regarding the horn. > > The Jack Attack! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Opinions and logic
William writes: No that is only my opinion. It is not the most pertinent sentence I have made on that subject since it is only opinion. When you point the finger at someone you have 4 fingers pointing back at you. ** The semantics of your statement are correct. In my opinion the reality of my statement is also correct. Read on... I completely concur with your four fingers statement as well. Now, I was not intending some great egregious attack on your person or arguments or even doing utter (udder? I am milking this then?) than making a comment upon the thread. I was merely amused at the sheer determination of your postings to change everyone's mind to your opinion. At no point did anyone ever say to you that you were a loon for liking mechanical linkage. Also, no one is deriding your harmonic series chart either. Research is a wonderful thing and knowing where the harmonics sit in relationship to each other is admirable when it is both intellectual knowledge and practical knowledge. There is sometimes a danger with research however in that we fail to maintain or advance the practical knowledge at the same rate of study. The beauty and simplicity of the math then become their own lure of distraction. Still, I am not attacking either your opinions or your quests for knowledge. A well reasoned opinion is a great thing. Often it is what spurs our research into both the outer and inner perceptions we have of our world. Would you have done all your quantification of theory on valve linkage if, like many of us, the linkage doesn't seem to affect how we play the instrument provided it works as it should and so is merely a preference and not a hindrance? By the way, my main horn has string linkage. After 20 years of orchestral performance I have never had a string break in performance. Does this mean it will never happen? Logically, no it does not. Thank goodness it hasn't happen any of the times I have played Bruckner 4 on 1st. Maintenance of any mechanical device is always a requirement whether strings or miniballs or the bearings (as our recent young poster has now discovered). The above comments not withstanding, I like a lively discussion so keep plugging away there William. It is nice to see the next generation so passionate regarding the horn. The Jack Attack! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
