[Hornlist] Re: Bass Clef

[HORNTRASH]

Now, I must be making the informings to you all that what I  am always having 
the preferentialings of is  Old  Notation For Alternate Reading of 
Trebleclef  aka O.N.F.A.R.T.  because why should any one of us be having the 
drudgeries to be making  the knowings of two clefs in the first place and, 
morealso, 
this is  the mostestest of simpletings to the learnings of its readings be  
making as it is treble clef written with ledger lines an octave lower than  the 
sounding note and it is easier for those who have already slavings away  and 
the 
hugestest of sacrifices of their timings made to learn to  read bass clef 
(either old or new notation) to transition backwards to simple  mindednesses of 
one clef be makings. .
 
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[Hornlist] Re: Bass clef notation

[DalleyHN]

I cannot say for sure why early bass clef notation was an octave too low. In 
my reading about the history of the horn I do not recall any discussion on 
the subject. In my opinion I think that the use of the old style notation 
occurred originally to notate C below middle C without using many leder 
lines. Low C probably was, in the beginning, the only low note the horn 
player encounted. So the bass clef symbol became a signal to the player that 
it was in fact a low note. Only later did composers and players add 
additional notes in the low range and used the old style bass clef, because 
it was now familiar to horn players. By the time of Dauprat and Duvernoy the 
use of the old style bass clef contained notes from Padal E to as high as B 
flat (third line treble clef), probably because it was easier to write the 
entire passage in the old style bass clef than to shift back and fourth to 
the treble clef.


Other instrument with unusual use of clef include the cello, which for many 
years wrote high passages in the treble clef, but an octave too high. String 
bass traditionally uses the bass clef, but with the notation an octave 
higher than sounding. This is a carry over from the early times when the 
celli and bassi were notated on one staff, but intended to play in octaves. 
Piccolo, of course is notated an octave below actual sounds, all in the 
treble clef. Bass Clarinet notated in the treble clef  (but sounding an 
octave lower) may be a more recent concept and probably based on use of the 
identical fingering from the clarinet. And that, of course is also seen in 
brass band publications from Europe where treble clef is used for parts for 
tenor horns, baritones, euphoniums, and tubas. Identical fingerings for 
identical note simplified classroom teaching of these instruments. Regards. 


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