As Packard Motorcar used to say "Ask the man who owns one".  I think you'll 
have a hard time arguing with Paul on this one.

- Steve Mumford



Paul wrote:

William,

You may disagree with this statement completely, but it is important to
consider two of your own statements.

The first is:
"The sound might not be what you desire".

If you don't understand how important the sound color and weight are in
Baroque concerti ( or for all music), then there is  no basis for a
discussion.

The second is :
"Also, where do people get the notion that below a particular note you
must
use another horn completely? If you can get away with the same horn and
a
decent sound and still play it musically, who cares?"

Robson's question was about a Bb/Bb alto instrument.
My statement refered to that instrument.
If you consider intonation part of what constitutes a musical
performance, then you should understand that while it may be possible
to play on only one horn ( and I assume you actually mean one side of
this particular instrument- the Bb alto side), the intonation
possibilities for the lower register notes using the normal Bb horn are
much more satisfactory because you have more usuable overtone positions
to work with on the regular Bb horn than on the Bb alto horn.
Also the response on the normal Bb horn is much better for the lower 
notes than the Bb alto horn's lower response.

If you want to limit your approach to just what is
technically possible, you can play the Neruda on a single F horn--- all
of the notes are there. :)

Please let us know when and if you try this. I am sure a lot of us
would like to be there. :)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: valkh...@aol.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:10 am
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda


I disagree with this statement completely. You can play notes well
below
the G above the treble clef. The sound may not be what you desire but
it is
completely possible due to the fact that the Fundamental is actually
the F
below  the treble clef. This means F down to B natural is doable. Of
course
there's a  break of an octave so the next series is F down to B natural
an
octave above -  meaning the entire treble clef is playable -
technically :)

Also, where do people get the notion that below a particular note you
must
use another horn completely? If you can get away with the same horn and
a
decent sound and still play it musically, who cares?

-William


In a message dated 4/25/2009 11:34:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
corno...@aol.com writes:

Hello  Robson,

No, the Bb alto horn is very limited below the top of the  staff- it is
generally used above written high G.
Almost everything  below that requires a regular Bb horn.

I have a Bb/Bb alto model 60,  made by Paxman  and have found very
little use for it besides the  Neruda and some other baroque concertos,
and a few other symphonic  compositions,  like the Haydn symphomy #51.

Paul  Navarro




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