[Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-19 Thread Jeremy Hansen
The Hi-MD minidiscs only use proprietary software for Windows, subject to
DRM. There are some home grown applications to do it better however.
Macintosh users are left out in the cold.

Jeremy C. Hansen
Eastern Illinois University

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[Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-17 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Dear readers,

We have endorsements of the following models, then:

Nomad Jukebox 3
HP iRiver 140
Marantz PMD670

William, specifications on the Nomad list only line in. Can you confirm that
it works with a standard (1/8) microphone without a preamp? Also, can you
upload by drag and drop rather than proprietary software?

It would appear that the iRiver 340 and 140 support recording from an
external microphone. The manuals do not show WAV as a recording format for
the 340, only WMA and others. The 140 product manual does list recording to
WAV format, with CD specs and up to 48khz. Steve, do you record to WAV or
WMA? Also, can you confirm that you can in fact upload just by drag and drop
rather than by proprietary software?

Jeremy Hansen 

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RE: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-17 Thread Smit Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check out the new Hi MD series on Sonu's web site.

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Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-17 Thread Graeme Evans
Can you confirm that
it works with a standard (1/8) microphone without a preamp? Also, can you
upload by drag and drop rather than proprietary software?
I use a Nomad JB3. You WILL need some sort of pre-amp in order to use a 
microphone, as the analogue input is line level (0.5V 50K impedance). There 
is some very good portable gear displayed on www.core-sound.com Pre-amps and 
digital converters (even better!) are available.

Cheers,
Graeme Evans
(Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra)
+61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax)
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-17 Thread Valkhorn
 
On my Jukebox Nomad 3, I can adjust the gain as high as I want if I set it  
to mic-in instead of line-in.
 
Did you try those two settings? Perhaps yours was an earlier model?
 
-William
 
In a message dated 1/17/2005 4:02:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I use a  Nomad JB3. You WILL need some sort of pre-amp in order to use a  
microphone, as the analogue input is line level (0.5V 50K impedance).  There 
is some very good portable gear displayed on www.core-sound.com  Pre-amps and 
digital converters (even better!) are  available.

Cheers,


 
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[Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-16 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Here is the breakdown as best I can tell. The market is in a sorry state,
and there seems to be no perfect product. Most recorders either record in
mp3 format or do not allow faster than realtime digital transfer to your
computer. 

Nomad Jukebox: records in uncompressed WAV, but some models do not allow
adjustment of levels. Apparently does not mount as a desktop volume, so
special transfer software is needed.

Iriver 140: seems to do the trick, but has terrible reviews about quality
control and durability. Other models do not allow the adjustment of line
levels.

Sony Hi-MD: Compatible with uncompressed WAV format, but it seems from the
literature that it only records in ATRAC and you must convert it. Also, the
conversion and transfer requires software that is Windows only and subject
to DRM. The Net-MD players are all no good. Many people buy them thinking
that the USB device included will allow the recorder to transfer digitally
to their machine.

Edirol R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use
compact flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a
volume, or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers.
The Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is that
they are very expensive.

Please update my information as needed. Note that my own hunt has been for a
recorder that is hard drive based, allows high-speed digital upload to a Mac
(preferable as a USB mass-storage device), accepts a microphone input,
records at least 1.5 hours, and allows adjustment of input levels while
recording. 

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Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-16 Thread Chris Tedesco
What Creative Nomad were you looking at?  The models I checked out had no
recording function.

Chris


--- Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is the breakdown as best I can tell. The market is in a sorry state,
 and there seems to be no perfect product. Most recorders either record in
 mp3 format or do not allow faster than realtime digital transfer to your
 computer. 
 
 Nomad Jukebox: records in uncompressed WAV, but some models do not allow
 adjustment of levels. Apparently does not mount as a desktop volume, so
 special transfer software is needed.
 
 Iriver 140: seems to do the trick, but has terrible reviews about quality
 control and durability. Other models do not allow the adjustment of line
 levels.
 
 Sony Hi-MD: Compatible with uncompressed WAV format, but it seems from the
 literature that it only records in ATRAC and you must convert it. Also, the
 conversion and transfer requires software that is Windows only and subject
 to DRM. The Net-MD players are all no good. Many people buy them thinking
 that the USB device included will allow the recorder to transfer digitally
 to their machine.
 
 Edirol R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use
 compact flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a
 volume, or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers.
 The Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is that
 they are very expensive.
 
 Please update my information as needed. Note that my own hunt has been for a
 recorder that is hard drive based, allows high-speed digital upload to a Mac
 (preferable as a USB mass-storage device), accepts a microphone input,
 records at least 1.5 hours, and allows adjustment of input levels while
 recording. 
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders

2005-01-16 Thread Valkhorn
 
It seems to me that if you're going to record digitally, that Compact Flash  
just won't cut it. A 2 GB CF cartridge is 90 dollars, however that will not 
get  you far beyond 2 or 3 hours of recording. If you wanted to record two 
recitals  in one night, or two in one day, you'd have to swap them out or buy a 
second  cartridge.
 
The Nomad I have allows you to adjust levels, and select either a line in  
recording or mic-in recording.
 
-William
 
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:07:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Edirol  R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use
compact  flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a
volume,  or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers.
The  Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is  that
they are very expensive.


 
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