Steve,
Since I'm in digest mode, someone may have already answered this
question before I get to it. But to make a long story short,

This concert D you speak of is not available as an in-tune harmonic on
the F horn. To play it open would require much adjustment, either with
lip or the hand, and would render it very difficult to play with steady
pitch and/or good tone. So th 1-2 valve combination, or 3rd valve alone,
will work much better.

You are correct that this concert D can be played open, but only on the
B-Flat horn. But typically, even though "less is more" with tubing
length, the sound quality will not match very well with notes played
just below this range on the F horn. Many American players, in concept,
play the F side from concert C on down, and the B-flat side from concert
C# on up. The difference in length between the F-side "C" and the B-flat
side "D" played open is substantial. Hence, it will make a much cleaner
tone transition on a double horn if a continuum of shortening tubing
length is used:

Concert pitch:
Bb3     F side     1
B3       F side     2
C4       F side     0
C#4    Bb side   23
D4      Bb side   12 (or 3)

In this manner the tubing length is more graduated and allows the tone
colors of the two horns to match better in passages which require
working in and around this range.

Hope it helps more than hurts,
Brent


>A question: why is the fingering for concert D above middle C (written
as A
>above middle C for horn in F if I've got this right) not given as open
(no
>valves) in the fingering chart in my beginners horn book for B-flat
horn?
>I'm learning pretty much on my own - my son takes lessons, we bought
him a
>new horn, and I'm playing the old one, which is a loaner from a school
at
>which his teacher works.  When I asked my son's teacher about how to
choose
>among multipler fingerings, he said the general rule was to blow
through as
>little tubing as possible, so an open fingering is preferable to one
with
>valves held down.  Why, then, is concert D not listed as open in the
book?
>The horn I have is a double and I get the B-flat horn with the thumb
key.
>
>Put another way, I can play the first five notes of a major scale in
concert
>F, starting a fifth below middle C, by alternating open and the first
valve
>- why, if I hold the thumb key down, wouldn't I use the same way to
play the
>first five notes of a concert B-flat scale?  The book shows 1 and 2,
which
>also works, of course.
>
>-S-
>Steve Freides
>Ridgewood, NJ



Brent A. Shires
Horn Instructor, University of Central Arkansas
Studio Phone:  501-450-5768
Cell Phone: 501-472-3350
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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