[Hornlist] Re: earthshaking oil question

2003-09-05 Thread J. Kosta


For my oiling needs I have 4 small bottles with 'eye drop' applicators - the 
bottles contain the following -
1) straight sewing machine oil (a low odor, clear, light machine oil).
2) straight Ultra-Pure Lamp oil (a low odor, clear, kerosene, which also has 
reasonable 'oiling characteristics' - search on kerosene and lubricity, if 
you want to do web research).
3) straight Al Cass.
4) a blend of Al Cass and sewing machine oil.
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The straight sewing machine oil is for the valve key mechanism, and the 
water keys. The 3 other oils are for the bearing ends (under the valve caps, 
and in the swing-arm gap) of the rotors. I never really oil the rotor 
bodies, but if the rotors become sluggish I rinse them thru the leadpipe 
with some Ultra-Pure to flush away whatever gunk (old grease, etc.) that is 
causing the problem. 

With my horns, I've found that the temperature has a great effect on what 
bearing oil works best - straight Ultra-Pure for winter, straight Al Cass 
for warm weather, and the blend for really hot weather. Also, for a really 
old, worn, euphonium with leaky piston valves, the sewing machine oil does a 
good job. 

With a properly operating rotary valve, the rotor body should never contact 
the walls of the rotor casing - there should always be a (very) small gap, 
and the typical amount of water condensation in the valves is enough to 
prevent excessive air leakage. Valves become sluggish when oil or grease 
leaks onto the rotors and 'gums-up' this small gap - that is when I use the 
Ultra-Pure to rinse the rotors. 

BTW, for slide grease I'm very happy with Selmer (pink goo) Slide and Cork 
grease (I keep the bottle in a ziplock bag for storage). 

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: earthshaking oil question

2003-09-05 Thread Billbamberg
For old valves I've found my son's Slide o Mix works wonders.  Has anyone 
used the modern Teflon filled lubes (EZ flow, etc.)?
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