Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals
Sorry, Jay, I understood it right that way. As a pro I must be more sensitive than others anyway. If there were big differences, they could never for an ensemble, but I have seen so many "individualists" recently even in big orchestras, that I began to doubt, if they really understood "ensemble spirit". "J. Kosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Perhaps the confusion is regarding the American (English?) idiom - > "not on the same page" > -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals
Perhaps the confusion is regarding the American (English?) idiom - "not on the same page" In this instance I think that Steve meant that the musicians have minor differences about phrasing, interpretation, etc. - not that the musicians have big differences, or lack of ability. Listening to a recording of the session might provide a better view of how all the parts are performned than is possible while actually playing. In any case, I really appreciate all of the constructive ideas and suggestions regarding my original question about 'quintet metronome' - I have read and saved them all, and will try using them. I have also found that reading (not playing) the part and analyzing the rhythms has been much more helpful to ME than sight-reading with the other players. Jay Kosta Endwell NY USA --- At 06:54 AM 2/18/2003 GMT, you wrote: >Sorry, Steve, my bloodpressure is lower than most expect, otherwise I could not do Siegfried etc. And I am not yelling, as you suppose, when I say something absolutely true. I just wonder about the "very curious" advise often given by people who have zero ideas about real professional horn playing, - not just in the orchestra, but as soloist & in small high class ensembles. This all very politely said. I could go on the common level also, if desired ..you would wonder. And after that long exposure to all kind of holes with the baton or with horn or other instruments in hand I am still alive & able to show them how things should be. > >.. > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >> Hans wrote: >> > You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional musicians = >> > life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER >> perform= >> > at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE RECORDINGS. >> T= >> > HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And there >> = >> > is a sound engineer . No need to work with tape & metronome, except >> be= >> > fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These >> peopl= >> > e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals because >> = >> > of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background. >> >> OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and Karen's >> replies. That's what I was talking about. And, try not to yell, it's bad >> for your blood pressure. >> -Steve Mumford >> ___ >> post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de >> > > >-- >Prof.Hans Pizka >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to >www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) >www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) >www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon > >mail is virus checked >___ >post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jkosta%40pronetisp.net > > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals
Sorry, Steve, my bloodpressure is lower than most expect, otherwise I could not do Siegfried etc. And I am not yelling, as you suppose, when I say something absolutely true. I just wonder about the "very curious" advise often given by people who have zero ideas about real professional horn playing, - not just in the orchestra, but as soloist & in small high class ensembles. This all very politely said. I could go on the common level also, if desired ..you would wonder. And after that long exposure to all kind of holes with the baton or with horn or other instruments in hand I am still alive & able to show them how things should be. .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hans wrote: > > You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional musicians = > > life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER > perform= > > at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE RECORDINGS. > T= > > HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And there > = > > is a sound engineer . No need to work with tape & metronome, except > be= > > fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These > peopl= > > e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals because > = > > of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background. > > OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and Karen's > replies. That's what I was talking about. And, try not to yell, it's bad > for your blood pressure. > -Steve Mumford > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals
Hans wrote: > You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional musicians = > life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER perform= > at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE RECORDINGS. T= > HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And there = > is a sound engineer . No need to work with tape & metronome, except be= > fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These peopl= > e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals because = > of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background. OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and Karen's replies. That's what I was talking about. And, try not to yell, it's bad for your blood pressure. -Steve Mumford ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org