Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals

2003-02-18 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Sorry, Jay, I understood it right that way. As a pro I must be more sensitive than 
others anyway. If there were big differences, they could never for an ensemble, but I 
have seen so many "individualists" recently even in big orchestras, that I began to 
doubt, if they really understood "ensemble spirit".


"J. Kosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Perhaps the confusion is regarding the American (English?) idiom - 
> "not on the same page"
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals

2003-02-18 Thread J. Kosta
Perhaps the confusion is regarding the American (English?) idiom - 
"not on the same page"

In this instance I think that Steve meant that the musicians have minor
differences about phrasing, interpretation, etc. - not that the musicians
have big differences, or lack of ability.

Listening to a recording of the session might provide a better view of how
all the parts are performned than is possible while actually playing.

In any case, I really appreciate all of the constructive ideas and
suggestions regarding my original question about 'quintet metronome' - I
have read and saved them all, and will try using them. I have also found
that reading (not playing) the part and analyzing the rhythms has been much
more helpful to ME than sight-reading with the other players. 

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA
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At 06:54 AM 2/18/2003 GMT, you wrote:
>Sorry, Steve, my bloodpressure is lower than most expect, otherwise I
could not do Siegfried etc. And I am not yelling, as you suppose, when I
say something absolutely true. I just wonder about the "very curious"
advise often given by people who have zero ideas about real professional
horn playing, - not just in the orchestra, but as soloist & in small high
class ensembles. This all very politely said. I could go on the common
level also, if desired ..you would wonder. And after that long exposure
to all kind of holes with the baton or with horn or other instruments
in hand I am still alive & able to show them how things should be.
>
>..  
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>> Hans wrote:
>> > You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional
musicians =
>> >  life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER 
>> perform=
>> >   at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE
RECORDINGS. 
>> T=
>> >  HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And
there 
>> =
>> >  is a sound engineer .  No need to work with tape & metronome,
except 
>> be=
>> >  fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These 
>> peopl=
>> >  e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals
because 
>> =
>> >  of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background.
>> 
>>  OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and
Karen's 
>> replies.  That's what I was talking about.   And, try not to yell, it's
bad 
>> for your blood pressure.
>> -Steve Mumford
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals

2003-02-17 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Sorry, Steve, my bloodpressure is lower than most expect, otherwise I could not do 
Siegfried etc. And I am not yelling, as you suppose, when I say something absolutely 
true. I just wonder about the "very curious" advise often given by people who have 
zero ideas about real professional horn playing, - not just in the orchestra, but as 
soloist & in small high class ensembles. This all very politely said. I could go on 
the common level also, if desired ..you would wonder. And after that long exposure 
to all kind of holes with the baton or with horn or other instruments in hand I am 
still alive & able to show them how things should be.

..  

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Hans wrote:
> > You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional musicians =
> >  life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER 
> perform=
> >   at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE RECORDINGS. 
> T=
> >  HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And there 
> =
> >  is a sound engineer .  No need to work with tape & metronome, except 
> be=
> >  fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These 
> peopl=
> >  e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals because 
> =
> >  of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background.
> 
>  OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and Karen's 
> replies.  That's what I was talking about.   And, try not to yell, it's bad 
> for your blood pressure.
> -Steve Mumford
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[Hornlist] Re: recording rehearsals

2003-02-17 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
Hans wrote:
> You have quite strange views about the reality of a professional musicians =
>  life. If they are not on the same page, as you said, they can NEVER 
perform=
>   at that great level as Canadian or Empire Brass. AND FOR THE RECORDINGS. 
T=
>  HERE IS ALSO A PRODUCER; WHO CAN READ MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND MUSIC And there 
=
>  is a sound engineer .  No need to work with tape & metronome, except 
be=
>  fore their very first recording, just to know about themselves. These 
peopl=
>  e are hardest professionals, and they became hardest professionals because 
=
>  of their ebormous musical & working discipline & their study background.

 OK, breathe slowly, that's good, just relax, now read Jack and Karen's 
replies.  That's what I was talking about.   And, try not to yell, it's bad 
for your blood pressure.
-Steve Mumford
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