Synesthesia is when two of your senses are linked up - in Sibelius' case, sound and color. So when he heard specific pitches, he associated them with specific colors. I knew a horn player that had it with letters and color.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Horn Digest, Vol 50, Issue 23> To: > horn@music.memphis.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:01:16 -0600> > Send Horn > mailing list submissions to> horn@music.memphis.edu> > To subscribe or > unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn> or, via email, send a > message with subject or body 'help' to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You can reach > the person managing the list at> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When replying, please > edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Horn > digest..."> > > Please edit replies to include only relevant text. Please DO > NOT include the entire digest in your reply. For more netiquette information, > see:> > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> > Today's Topics:> > > 1. Re: Mozart Effect (Bill Hauser)> 2. Gliere Symphony No 3 (Robert Dickow)> > 3. RE: Re: Mozart Effect (Robert Dickow)> 4. Sibelius effect for children > (Derek Crockett)> 5. Re: Sibelius effect for children (Sven Bring)> 6. NHR - > Pachelbel Rant (David Goldberg)> 7. RE: Sibelius effect for children (Steve > Freides)> 8. Re: NHR - Pachelbel Rant (Fred Baucom)> 9. RE: Re: Mozart Effect > (Pandolfi, Orlando)> 10. Sibelius Effect..... Bad Low ball... (matthew > scheffelman)> 11. Favors and good will (Larry Jellison)> 12. Shipping horns > (a cautionary tale) (Carl Bangs)> 13. Re: Shipping horns (a cautionary tale) > (Jerry Houston)> 14. Re: Shipping horns (a cautionary tale) (Carl Bangs)> 15. > RE: Shipping horns (a cautionary tale) (hans)> 16. Re: NHR - Pachelbel Rant > (Bill Tyler)> 17. Re: Shipping horns (a cautionary tale) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])> > 18. Re: Sibelius Effect..... Bad Low ball... (Fred Baucom)> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > message: 1> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:34:41 -0600> from: "Bill Hauser" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Effect> > > The only > thing I would add:> > John Williams Effect: The child speaks copious amounts > -- seemingly of great > importance -- only to find that he/she only repeats > what has already been > said by others. Often combines the sayings of several > others within the same > line, seemingly without even knowing it. Sometimes > even quotes himself, but, > alas, 'twas not his to begin with. For this, the > child will win numerous > awards and be held in high regard by an unknowing > following.> > > > > ------------------------------> > message: 2> date: Wed, > 21 Feb 2007 10:58:03 -0800> from: "Robert Dickow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > subject: [Hornlist] Gliere Symphony No 3> > A week ago I played 6th horn with > Spokane Symphony in the performance of> Gli=E8re's Symphony No 3 'Ilya > Murometz' and it was really a fun => experience. I> didn't know that piece at > all until then, and it is truly exciting. What> great imagination on Gliere's > part! The horn parts were a gas too. The => piece> is a massive work (80 > minutes in the full version), rather strongly a => mix of> > Wagner/Strauss/Scriabin and John Williams ;-).> > If you don't know the work, > check out the London Symphony recording.> > Robert Dickow> Lionel Hampton > School of Music> University of Idaho> > > > ------------------------------> > > message: 3> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:58:03 -0800> from: "Robert Dickow" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Effect> > > Aren't we > being a little hard on ol' John Williams. Amongst the d=E9j=E0 => vu> strains > in his music, even some of those are quite brilliant (e.g. the> Asteroid Belt > sequence in Star Wars V, which is reminiscent of Bernard> Herman's work for > Hitchcock films), and other passages are very original => and> quite lovely > (E.G. long passages at climax of Artificial Intelligence). => He> is a film > composer with which to reckon.> > -----Original Message-----> On Behalf Of > Bill Hauser> > The only thing I would add:> > John Williams Effect: The child > speaks copious amounts -- seemingly of => great> > importance -- only to find > that he/she only repeats what has already => been=20> said by others. Often > combines the sayings of se....> > > > ------------------------------> > > message: 4> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:09:15 -0600> from: "Derek Crockett" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: [Hornlist] Sibelius effect for children> > > Sibelius Effect: Get on government welfare and work only when you want for > > the rest of your life> > > _________________________________________________________________> Find what > you need at prices you’ll love. Compare products and save at MSN® > Shopping. > > > http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701> > > > > ------------------------------> > message: 5> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 > 12:25:22 -0800 (PST)> from: Sven Bring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: Re: > [Hornlist] Sibelius effect for children> > I thought this list was > moderated.=0A=0ASven=0A=0A----- Original Message --=> --=0AFrom: Derek > Crockett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> edu=0ASent: Wednesday, > February 21, 2007 8:09:15 PM=0ASubject: [Hornlist] S=> ibelius effect for > children=0A=0A=0ASibelius Effect: Get on government we=> lfare and work only > when you want for =0Athe rest of your life=0A=0A_______=> > __________________________________________________________=0AFind what you => > need at prices you=92ll love. Compare products and save at MSN=AE =0AShoppi=> > ng. =0Ahttp://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=3D37,ptnrdata=3D24102&tc=> > ode=3DT001MSN20A0701=0A=0A_______________________________________________=> > =0Apost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or set options at http://musi=> > c2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sven.bring%40glocalnet.net=0A=0A=0A-- => > =0ANo virus found in this incoming message.=0AChecked by AVG Free Edition.=> > =0AVersion: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/694 - Release Date: 2007-02-=> > 20 13:44> > > ------------------------------> > message: 6> date: Wed, 21 Feb > 2007 17:50:56 -0500> from: David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: > [Hornlist] NHR - Pachelbel Rant> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM> > > -- > > { David Goldberg: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] }> { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }> { Ann Arbor > Michigan }> > > > ------------------------------> > message: 7> date: Wed, 21 > Feb 2007 19:11:59 -0500> from: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: > RE: [Hornlist] Sibelius effect for children> > This list is not moderated, > although Wade does step in and say something> when necessary. I agree with > the sentiment that politics does not belong> here, although I confess to have > ignored the beginnings of this particular> thread.> > -S- > > > -----Original > Message-----> > From: Sven Bring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:25 PM> > To: The Horn List> > Subject: Re: > [Hornlist] Sibelius effect for children> > > > I thought this list was > moderated.> > > > Sven> > > > ----- Original Message ----> > From: Derek > Crockett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: horn@music.memphis.edu> > Sent: > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:09:15 PM> > Subject: [Hornlist] Sibelius > effect for children> > > > > > Sibelius Effect: Get on government welfare and > work only > > when you want for > > the rest of your life> > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > Find > what you need at prices you'll love. Compare products > > and save at MSNR > Shopping. > > http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&;> > tcode=T001MSN20A0701> > > > _______________________________________________> > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu> > unsubscribe or set options at > > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sven.bring%40gl> ocalnet.net> > > > > > > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG > Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/694 - Release > > > Date: 2007-02-20 13:44 _______________________________________________> > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu> > unsubscribe or set options at > > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays> computer.com> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > message: 8> date: Wed, 21 Feb > 2007 16:31:37 -0800 (PST)> from: Fred Baucom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: > Re: [Hornlist] NHR - Pachelbel Rant> > Some hornist should tape an > 'after-beat' rant, from all those marches we pl=> ayed under protest in high > school...would make the cello part in Pachelbel => look pretty good by > comparison.=0A=0AFred=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message --=> --=0AFrom: David > Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=0ATo: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > usic.memphis.edu>=0ASent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:50:56 PM=0ASubject=> > : [Hornlist] NHR - Pachelbel Rant=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D=> > JdxkVQy7QLM=0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0A { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> g }=0A { > Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }=0A => { Ann Arbor Michigan > }=0A=0A____________________________________________=> ___=0Apost: [EMAIL > PROTECTED] or set options at http://m=> > usic2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net> > > ------------------------------> > message: 9> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:23:31 > -0500> from: "Pandolfi, Orlando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: RE: [Hornlist] > Re: Mozart Effect> > All I can say is, he's a better thief than I am.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] => [mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED] On => Behalf Of Robert Dickow> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 > 1:58 PM> To: 'The Horn List'> Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Effect> > > > Aren't we being a little hard on ol' John Williams. Amongst the d=E9j=E0 => > vu> strains in his music, even some of those are quite brilliant (e.g. the> > Asteroid Belt sequence in Star Wars V, which is reminiscent of Bernard> > Herman's work for Hitchcock films), and other passages are very original => > and> quite lovely (E.G. long passages at climax of Artificial Intelligence). > => He> is a film composer with which to reckon.> > -----Original > Message-----> On Behalf Of Bill Hauser> > The only thing I would add:> > John > Williams Effect: The child speaks copious amounts -- seemingly of => great> > > importance -- only to find that he/she only repeats what has already => > been=20> said by others. Often combines the sayings of se....> > > _______________________________________________> post: > horn@music.memphis.edu> unsubscribe or set options at => > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pandolfi%40deerfield.edu> > > > ------------------------------> > message: 10> date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 > 23:22:41 -0800 (PST)> from: matthew scheffelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: > [Hornlist] Sibelius Effect..... Bad Low ball...> > If one of the last things > I wrote was the Sibelius> Seventh Symphony (one of the greatest pieces of > music,> ever) I would quit composing. > The insult is silly and immature. > Clearly someone with> a fear of polar bears and long winters. All joking> > aside.........> > ....Sibelius's music is not for the large Ego. He> wrote > music that is wildly considered to be> unrewarding to the performing musician > (unofficial> poll). Unrewarding music for the performer (not the> soloist > mind you) has some negative reviews and> questions behind it...Consider and > compare the> so-called rival for the time, Mahler. Mahler's music> was ego > driven for the orchestra, and oh so rewarding> (how many of us Horn players > drool over the sight of a> Mahler score?). > Sibelius was a Monet of sorts, > his abstract and> completely beautiful choices of sound was a stark> contrast > to other composers of his time. While he> loved Wagner, I think he was moved > by other emotions> of sound.> Curiously, he had the gift of Synesthesia. I > think> that fact alone may explain much of his sound palate.> > Matthew > Scheffelman> Horn> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> > Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.> > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html > > > ------------------------------> > > message: 11> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:30:33 -0800 (PST)> from: Larry > Jellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: [Hornlist] Favors and good will> > > Prof. Pizka related an experience of being asked by a> desperate person for > scanned music, then later being> told, "never mind".> > Another situation > that needs consideration is when you> ask another horn player to substitute > in an ensemble. > You need to be the person of authority to make the> offer. > I have been asked to substitute to only be> told later either "we need to get > the approval of the> principal or the conductor", or, "we found someone> else > to substitute". This is inconsiderate behavior> toward those individuals > willing to extend a favor to> the ensemble.> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> > Need Mail bonding?> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! > Answers users.> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091> > > > ------------------------------> > message: 12> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 > 02:08:56 -0800> from: Carl Bangs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: [Hornlist] > Shipping horns (a cautionary tale)> > Do not trust Staples to pack your horn > safely. I recently purchased a > horn without a case on EBAY. It was packed > by Staples and shipped UPS. > The leadpipe had been bent so that the horn > could be wedged into an 18 > inch box. The result was a bent bell and a > crumpled bell throat. I have > repaired the horn.> > If you ship an uncased > horn, use a sturdy box large enough so that the > horn is not touching the > sides. Pack it in packing peanuts so that the > horn floats as if it were in > the womb and it will arrive safely. I have > never had a horn that I shipped > arrive damaged.> > Do not use crumpled or shredded paper, or soft foam.> > My > rant is ended.> > Carl> > > ------------------------------> > message: 13> > date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:21:29 -0800> from: "Jerry Houston" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Shipping horns (a cautionary tale)> > > Carl Bangs wrote:> >> > If you ship an uncased horn, use a sturdy box large > enough so that the> > horn is not touching the sides. Pack it in packing > peanuts so that the> > horn floats as if it were in the womb and it will > arrive safely. I> > have never had a horn that I shipped arrive damaged.> > I > go a step farther than that when I ship an uncased horn. I pack it with > > suitable packing material in a box that fits closely, then pack that box in > > a bigger box that allows for several inches of additional peanuts on all > > sides.> > It's a few dollars more for the additional box and extra shipping > charges, > but I just think of it as extra insurance. > > > > > ------------------------------> > message: 14> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 > 02:56:42 -0800> from: Carl Bangs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: Re: [Hornlist] > Shipping horns (a cautionary tale)> > Jerry Houston wrote:> > > Carl Bangs > wrote:> >> >>> >> If you ship an uncased horn, use a sturdy box large enough > so that the> >> horn is not touching the sides. Pack it in packing peanuts so > that the> >> horn floats as if it were in the womb and it will arrive safely. > I> >> have never had a horn that I shipped arrive damaged.> >> >> > I go a > step farther than that when I ship an uncased horn. I pack it > > with > suitable packing material in a box that fits closely, then pack > > that box > in a bigger box that allows for several inches of additional > > peanuts on > all sides.> >> > It's a few dollars more for the additional box and extra > shipping > > charges, but I just think of it as extra insurance.> >> The > problem with a close fitting box is that if the horn can move at > all, the > box becomes a fulcrum against which the torque of the horn can > cause the > bell throat to become twisted. This happens frequently in > cases. I have > found that shipping a horn without the case is much safer.> > > > ------------------------------> > message: 15> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 > 13:43:17 +0100> from: "hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: RE: [Hornlist] > Shipping horns (a cautionary tale)> > But I shipped a cut bell horn in ist > very compact case,> again packed in another strong carton with enough buffer> > material on all sides so the horn case could not touch the> walls of the > carton. But what happen ? Custom inspectors> (were from the USA, but could be > elsewhere in the world)> suspected illegal "wild life products" when reading > the word> "horn", so they opened the box & the horn case, but were too> > stupid to pack the horn back into its case. So they bent> away an aluminium > hook inside the case, using a plier, and> when the cut bell did not fit into > the case again, they> forced the lid of the horn case back into its place,> > squeezing & nearly folding the cut bell. One has too own a> great amount of > stupidity or a minimum of brain power to do> such an action. It is a pity, > that such negligence mixed> with careless stupidity is abundant. People are > all born> with a brain in their head, but many never lear how to use> it, > obviously.> > Carl, you see, your suggestion about packing a horn, is the> > right one, but will fail also sometimes (see above). Nothing> seems to work > perfectly, today. That is our main problem. We> have rules to obey, but > everybody seems to amend the rules> for himself or herself. We trust too much > regulations. If we> work hard ourselves to make things work properly or to> > prevent any damage, we commit the greatest error, if we> assume, the other > side would work as carefully as we do or> at least as we try. We do not > calculate with stupidity.> > When shipping a horn (or other fragile & > valuable things),> we should state the following on the shipping papers:> > > ONLY BE INSPECTED in PRESENCE OF receiving customer> > That works.> > If > there are difficulties delivering the parcel, because> receiving customer > might not be at home, go sure, to send> the parcel to a person, who is > authorized & who is> understanding how to care about such goods (send it to> > customers busines address, perhaps).> > > ============================================================> > ================================================> > -----Original > Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On> Behalf > Of Jerry Houston> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:21 AM> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]; The Horn List> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Shipping horns (a > cautionary tale)> > Carl Bangs wrote:> >> > If you ship an uncased horn, use > a sturdy box large enough> so that the > > horn is not touching the sides. > Pack it in packing peanuts> so that the > > horn floats as if it were in the > womb and it will arrive> safely. I > > have never had a horn that I shipped > arrive damaged.> > I go a step farther than that when I ship an uncased > horn.> I pack it with suitable packing material in a box that fits> closely, > then pack that box in a bigger box that allows for> several inches of > additional peanuts on all sides.> > It's a few dollars more for the > additional box and extra> shipping charges, but I just think of it as extra > insurance.> > > _______________________________________________> post: > horn@music.memphis.edu> unsubscribe or set options at> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.> de> > > > > ------------------------------> > message: 16> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 > 06:31:48 -0800 (PST)> from: Bill Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> subject: Re: > [Hornlist] NHR - Pachelbel Rant> > > > Fred Baucom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some hornist should tape an 'after-beat' rant, from all those marches we > played under protest in high school...would make the cello part in Pachelbel > look pretty good by comparison.> > Fred> > > > ... however, there's that smug > feeling you get when a rehearsal is interrupted because some other section > can't play after-beats. > > > Bill> > > ---------------------------------> Be > a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews > at Yahoo! Games.> > ------------------------------> > message: 17> date: Thu, > 22 Feb 2007 09:56:09 EST> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: Re: [Hornlist] > Shipping horns (a cautionary tale)> > We have a guide on our page at > http://www.brassarts.com/how_to_ship_a_horn.htm> > Please email me at [EMAIL > PROTECTED] if you have any questions about the > page or about the procedure. > Any reputable horn shop has a lot of experience > shipping horns. But we > usually don't have a lot of experience selling office > supplies.> > Dave > Weiner> Brass Arts Unlimited> > > ------------------------------> > message: > 18> date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:05:09 -0800 (PST)> from: Fred Baucom <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Sibelius Effect..... Bad Low ball...> > > Well said, Matthew...Sibelius has long been my favorite composer of symphon=> > ies, and the 7th is pure genius. I will have to look up 'Synesthesia' - no=> > t familiar with that term.=0A=0AFred=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A=> > From: matthew scheffelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > =0ASent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:22:41 PM=0ASubject: [Hornlist] Sib=> > elius Effect..... Bad Low ball...=0A=0A=0AIf one of the last things I wrote=> > was the Sibelius=0ASeventh Symphony (one of the greatest pieces of music,=> > =0Aever) I would quit composing. =0AThe insult is silly and immature. Clear=> > ly someone with=0Aa fear of polar bears and long winters. All joking=0Aasid=> > e.........=0A=0A....Sibelius's music is not for the large Ego. He=0Awrote m=> > usic that is wildly considered to be=0Aunrewarding to the performing musici=> > an (unofficial=0Apoll). Unrewarding music for the performer (not the=0Asolo=> > ist mind you) has some negative reviews and=0Aquestions behind it...Conside=> > r and compare the=0Aso-called rival for the time, Mahler. Mahler's music=0A=> > was ego driven for the orchestra, and oh so rewarding=0A(how many of us Hor=> > n players drool over the sight of a=0AMahler score?). =0ASibelius was a Mon=> > et of sorts, his abstract and=0Acompletely beautiful choices of sound was a=> > stark=0Acontrast to other composers of his time. While he=0Aloved Wagner, => > I think he was moved by other emotions=0Aof sound.=0ACuriously, he had the => > gift of Synesthesia. I think=0Athat fact alone may explain much of his soun=> > d palate.=0A=0AMatthew Scheffelman=0AHorn=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________=> > _________________________________________________________________=0ADon't p=> > ick lemons.=0ASee all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.=0Ahttp://autos.yah=> > oo.com/new_cars.html =0A_______________________________________________=0Ap=> > ost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or set options at http://music2.m=> > emphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net> > > ------------------------------> > > _______________________________________________> post: > horn@music.memphis.edu> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn> > > End of Horn Digest, Vol 50, Issue 23> > ************************************_______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
