RE: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Side bar on this - In the period immediately following 11 Sept 01 lots of people wanted emergency alters to be sent by e-mail. The people that understood the e-mail and how it works advised against it. They advised once e-mail leaves your computer knows one really knows how long it will take to get somewhere. It can be around the world in seconds but take 12 hours to reach someone next door. Bill Gross -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of hans.pi...@t-online.de Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:14 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs Gratulation, Ross, to your comment to one of my letters from several months ago. It must have cost you many sleepless nights, perhaps (just an unqualified assumption by myself). And it is just a confirmation of my assumptions, that you - not you only - address things as insults as soon as the things are addressed by their names right on the nail. It is also a confirmation, that amateurs professionals (what is your source of the 1 to 40 ratio ? do you think your area is representative for the musical world as a whole ?) as well look for excuses of certain playing inabilities, which could be cured by changing a personal habit or more, instead of changing e.g. fingerings, postures, lip technique, selection of repertory etc. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Hi Bill, I'm sure I'm being thick or maybe it's just another example of the language barrier, but I didn't understand your last post. What are emergency alters? Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
typo from trying to get something done before I head out the door and not using my glasses, then getting an emergency call from the Spousal Overunit I can't find my coffee cup. It was meant to be emergency alerts. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Bill, I'm sure I'm being thick or maybe it's just another example of the language barrier, but I didn't understand your last post. What are emergency alters? Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Alerts!! of course - isn't it obvious once someone says it? Sorry, me being thick. Sorry, Lawrence 2009/2/6 William Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com typo from trying to get something done before I head out the door and not using my glasses, then getting an emergency call from the Spousal Overunit I can't find my coffee cup. It was meant to be emergency alerts. Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Prof. Pizka writes, in response to Valerie, regarding her medical difficulties: And, isnĀ“t it much better, not to speak about ones own very very particular problem, which cannot be places upon the entire community ? We can learn nothing from it. It is more important, than outing oneself, to report on problems which influence a greater number of people ??? players ??? And there we find a lot of hypochondriac people. There are several answers to this question. First, the person involved may be trying to find out if anyone else has had a similar problem, and how they dealt with it, or where they found help. One benefit of a forum such as this one is that there are hundreds of people who follow the discussions, and may be able to help with information they have. Second, while Prof. Pizka is unquestionably a tremendous authority on playing the french horn, he tends to assume that that expertise extends to other areas of life -- but it doesn't. Now he acts like a psychologist or psychiatrist, apparently blessed with the psychic ability to ascertain that apparently a very large number of people he deals with are hyupochondriacs. While such people do exist, they are not in anywhere near the numbers that the Prof. claims to run into. Third, the professor's logic fails here as well, stating: to report on problems which influence a greater number of people. But how will someone know if a problem affects a great number of people unless they ask? The prof. would do well to open his mind on occasion, to acknowledge that there are things he doesn't know, and that people are in fact different. Just because he has not had a particular experience does not mean that other people are faking their problems. Why should it be difficult for semi-pros lay musicians. What Valerie unquestionably meant was, first, that there are far more semi-pro and amateur horn players than professional players -- I would image the ratio is probably at least 40 to 1, and probably much higher than that, judging by my experience in the Seattle-Tacoma area. And second, the fact that a person is having a significant problem physically that affects their horn playing makes it all the more likely that the person was not able to become a professional horn player. Please, Prof., stick to what you know, and stop your campaign of insulting people different from you. ** Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Gratulation, Ross, to your comment to one of my letters from several months ago. It must have cost you many sleepless nights, perhaps (just an unqualified assumption by myself). And it is just a confirmation of my assumptions, that you - not you only - address things as insults as soon as the things are addressed by their names right on the nail. It is also a confirmation, that amateurs professionals (what is your source of the 1 to 40 ratio ? do you think your area is representative for the musical world as a whole ?) as well look for excuses of certain playing inabilities, which could be cured by changing a personal habit or more, instead of changing e.g. fingerings, postures, lip technique, selection of repertory etc. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org