RE: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-06 Thread Bill Gross
Side bar on this -

In the period immediately following 11 Sept 01 lots of people wanted
emergency alters to be sent by e-mail.  The people that understood the
e-mail and how it works advised against it.  They advised once e-mail leaves
your computer knows one really knows how long it will take to get somewhere.
It can be around the world in seconds but take 12 hours to reach someone
next door. 

Bill Gross

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Gratulation, Ross, to your comment to one of my letters from several months
ago. It must have cost you many sleepless nights, perhaps (just an
unqualified assumption by myself). 

And it is just a confirmation of my assumptions, that you - not you only -
address things as insults as soon as the things are addressed by their
names right on the nail. It is also a confirmation, that amateurs 
professionals (what is your source of the 1 to 40 ratio ? do you think your
area is representative for the musical world as a whole ?) as well look for
excuses of certain playing inabilities, which could be cured by changing a
personal habit or more, instead of changing e.g. fingerings, postures, lip
technique, selection of repertory etc.


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Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Hi Bill,

I'm sure I'm being thick or maybe it's just another example of the language
barrier, but I didn't understand your last post.

What are emergency alters?

Cheers,

Lawrence

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Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-06 Thread William Gross
typo from trying to get something done before I head out the door and not
using my glasses, then getting an emergency call from the Spousal Overunit
I can't find my coffee cup.

It was meant to be emergency alerts.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Bill,

 I'm sure I'm being thick or maybe it's just another example of the language
 barrier, but I didn't understand your last post.

 What are emergency alters?

 Cheers,

 Lawrence

 Lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Alerts!! of course - isn't it obvious once someone says it?  Sorry, me being
thick.

Sorry,

Lawrence

2009/2/6 William Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com

 typo from trying to get something done before I head out the door and not
 using my glasses, then getting an emergency call from the Spousal Overunit
 I can't find my coffee cup.

 It was meant to be emergency alerts.


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[Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-05 Thread RossTE
Prof. Pizka writes, in response to Valerie, regarding her medical 
difficulties:

  And, isnĀ“t it much better, not to speak about ones own very very 
particular problem, which cannot be places upon the entire community ? We can 
learn 
nothing from it. It is more important, than outing oneself, to report on 
problems which influence a greater number of people ??? players ??? And there 
we find 
a lot of hypochondriac people.

There are several answers to this question. First, the person involved may be 
trying to find out if anyone else has had a similar problem, and how they 
dealt with it, or where they found help. One benefit of a forum such as this 
one 
is that there are hundreds of people who follow the discussions, and may be 
able to help with information they have.

Second, while Prof. Pizka is unquestionably a tremendous authority on playing 
the french horn, he tends to assume that that expertise extends to other 
areas of life -- but it doesn't. Now he acts like a psychologist or 
psychiatrist, 
apparently blessed with the psychic ability to ascertain that apparently a 
very large number of people he deals with are hyupochondriacs. While such 
people 
do exist, they are not in anywhere near the numbers that the Prof. claims to 
run into. 

Third, the professor's logic fails here as well, stating: to report on 
problems which influence a greater number of people. But how will someone know 
if 
a problem affects a great number of people unless they ask? 

The prof. would do well to open his mind on occasion, to acknowledge that 
there are things he doesn't know, and that people are in fact different. Just 
because he has not had a particular experience does not mean that other people 
are faking their problems. 


Why should it be difficult for semi-pros  lay musicians.

What Valerie unquestionably meant was, first, that there are far more 
semi-pro and amateur horn players than professional players -- I would image 
the 
ratio is probably at least 40 to 1, and probably much higher than that, judging 
by 
my experience in the Seattle-Tacoma area. 

And second, the fact that a person is having a significant problem physically 
that affects their horn playing makes it all the more likely that the person 
was not able to become a professional horn player. 

Please, Prof., stick to what you know, and stop your campaign of insulting 
people different from you.


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Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs

2009-02-05 Thread hans.pi...@t-online.de
Gratulation, Ross, to your comment to one of my letters from several months 
ago. It must have cost you many sleepless nights, perhaps (just an unqualified 
assumption by myself). 

And it is just a confirmation of my assumptions, that you - not you only - 
address things as insults as soon as the things are addressed by their names 
right on the nail. It is also a confirmation, that amateurs  professionals 
(what is your source of the 1 to 40 ratio ? do you think your area is 
representative for the musical world as a whole ?) as well look for excuses of 
certain playing inabilities, which could be cured by changing a personal habit 
or more, instead of changing e.g. fingerings, postures, lip technique, 
selection of repertory etc.


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