[Hornlist] stopped passages

2003-01-24 Thread Brent Shires
Hi, all-

I've got a couple things related to stopped horn and French
literature that I'm trying to sort out. Anyone's comments are
welcome, but I'm especially interested in professionals'
experience/knowledge here.

Berlioz, Symphonie fantastique: I'm sure I could look up a
dissertation if I wanted to, but how many of you play the 4th
movement muted, as opposed to stopped? In reading the text
there, it says Faites les sons bouchés avec la main sans
employer les cylindres. Did Berlioz simply intend for a valved-horn
part to start acting like a natural horn here? Or is there some other
explanation? (Les réponses des gens français seront
particulièrement intéressant ici.)

The Glazunov Rêverie: I've been trying to sort out whether or not the
stopped pitch at the end of the piece is supposed to return to open.
All my recordings are played stopped through the end, but I seem
to recall performing it with the change to open when in college. My
editions by MCA and Masters Music Publications show the
change, while Mason Jones' version does not. Any thoughts?

BTW, it's cold as an eskimo's nose in Arkansas today.
Brent


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Re: [Hornlist] stopped passages

2003-01-24 Thread Chris Tedesco
Hmm I've wondered about the Reverie for a while.  I have only the Cerminaro
recording of it and I beleive he plays stopped through the end.  When I just
played it for my recital two weeks ago, I went open for the last note.  Both of
my most recent teachers taught me to play the last note open.  

Another thing to add to the list perhaps is in Bozza's Sur Les Cimes.   In the
cadenza section, there is a marking sons cuivrés(brassy) and then after
there is a sons ouverts(open).  I guessed that perhaps the open marking was
in a figurative sense, meaning simply to return to normal, but my teacher
thought that it meant to literally play open, with the brassy section played
stopped, loud and brassy. I've never heard the piece performed, and I know of
one recording, the Peter Damm recording which I have, and he plays it open and
brassy, then normal.  I wonder what the composer intended.  Is there a normal
practice for this section?  


Chris


--- Brent Shires [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all-
 
 I've got a couple things related to stopped horn and French
 literature that I'm trying to sort out. Anyone's comments are
 welcome, but I'm especially interested in professionals'
 experience/knowledge here.
 
 Berlioz, Symphonie fantastique: I'm sure I could look up a
 dissertation if I wanted to, but how many of you play the 4th
 movement muted, as opposed to stopped? In reading the text
 there, it says Faites les sons bouchés avec la main sans
 employer les cylindres. Did Berlioz simply intend for a valved-horn
 part to start acting like a natural horn here? Or is there some other
 explanation? (Les réponses des gens français seront
 particulièrement intéressant ici.)
 
 The Glazunov Rêverie: I've been trying to sort out whether or not the
 stopped pitch at the end of the piece is supposed to return to open.
 All my recordings are played stopped through the end, but I seem
 to recall performing it with the change to open when in college. My
 editions by MCA and Masters Music Publications show the
 change, while Mason Jones' version does not. Any thoughts?
 
 BTW, it's cold as an eskimo's nose in Arkansas today.
 Brent
 
 
 Brent A. Shires, Instructor of Horn
 University of Central Arkansas:  Conway, AR  72035
 Phone: 501-450-5768
 Fax:   501-450-5773
 Web: http://www.uca.edu/divisions/academic/arts/music/faculty/bshires.htm
 3rd Horn Arkansas Symphony Orchestra;
 Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp Horn Instructor;
 IHS Regional Workshop Coordinator  Arkansas Area Rep.;
 Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Province 4 Governor
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