Re: [Hornlist] unnatural
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Alan Cole wrote:
> Or, as Ella Fitzgerald put it,...
>
> I blow thru here
> The music goes 'round & around
> Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho
> And it comes out here.
> I push the first valve down
(etc.)
I ran into this song in the Danny Kaye movie, "The Five Pennies" (1959).
A must-see if you want a musical feel-good tear-jerker, or if you are a
Dixieland jazz cornet player. Also with Louis Armstrong. They don't make
'em like this anymore.
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Re: [Hornlist] unnatural
In a message dated 10/07/2005 21:43:41 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I push the other valve down The music goes 'round & around Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho And it comes out here. I think I follow this but I'm a little concerned about the "Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho" bit, All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_ (http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/) Dulcian Wind Quintet: _http://dulcianwind.co.uk_ (http://dulcianwind.co.uk/) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] unnatural
Straight, tapered, combination -- none of it's unnatural, right? That is, each arrangement responds naturally in its own way to the laws of acoustics -- blow certain ways into the upstream end & various corresponding musical sounds come out the downstream end. You could look it up. Or, as Ella Fitzgerald put it,... I blow thru here The music goes 'round & around Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho And it comes out here. I push the first valve down The music goes down & around Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho And it comes out here. I push the middle valve down The music goes down around below Below, below, deedle-dee-ho-ho-ho Listen to the jazz come out. I push the other valve down The music goes 'round & around Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho And it comes out here. What could be more natural than that? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ At 01:54 PM 7/10/2005, you wrote: > > The naturalness of a horn come from the smoothness of its conical shape. >The > > more valves and slides there are the more straight and therefore >nonconicalness > > to the horn > >I must snipe here and say that, as far as I've been able to read, >"straight-section" tubing in the horn did NOT originate with valved horns. >Before valved horns, this centrally-located cylindrical tubing was found to >add stability to the pitch, and was used as such. Read Pizka's and >Pelletier's (spelling?) websites for history and more details. > >Since I wasn't invented 'til 1954, I can't claim first-hand knowledge of >this, so I could be wrong. If I am, it'd be the second time in less than >50-years. I'm slipping! > >jrc -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] unnatural
> The naturalness of a horn come from the smoothness of its conical shape. The > more valves and slides there are the more straight and therefore nonconicalness > to the horn I must snipe here and say that, as far as I've been able to read, "straight-section" tubing in the horn did NOT originate with valved horns. Before valved horns, this centrally-located cylindrical tubing was found to add stability to the pitch, and was used as such. Read Pizka's and Pelletier's (spelling?) websites for history and more details. Since I wasn't invented 'til 1954, I can't claim first-hand knowledge of this, so I could be wrong. If I am, it'd be the second time in less than 50-years. I'm slipping! jrc ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] unnatural
Exactly. I always joke about fixed pitch instruments like Vibraphones and Triangles - especially when someone else is out of tune I jokingly turn around to the triangle player and tell them they're sharp or flat. Actually you could tune a Triangle or a Vibraphone. All you need is some sandpaper or a welding arc and some patience. -William In a message dated 7/9/2005 6:59:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeahbut... Even a natural horn needs a tuning slide and some terminal crooks, or it would be forever in one (right or wrong) key. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] unnatural
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In response to Alan Cole "I've never understood what it is about > valves > that's considered so unnatural." > > The naturalness of a horn come from the smoothness of its conical > shape. The > more valves and slides there are the more straight and therefore > nonconicalness to the horn. Yeahbut... Even a natural horn needs a tuning slide and some terminal crooks, or it would be forever in one (right or wrong) key. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] unnatural
In response to Alan Cole "I've never understood what it is about valves that's considered so unnatural." The naturalness of a horn come from the smoothness of its conical shape. The more valves and slides there are the more straight and therefore nonconicalness to the horn. Richard Burdick 1st Horn Regina Symphony Regina, SK Canada ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
