Re: AW: [Hornlist] tips again

[Clayton]

Clayton Whetmore, here:
Scott Bacon Dürkhorns wrote:
Herr Pizka,

I tried to have a look at the Beethoven, but nothing would correctly upload.
Is all in order with the link?
 

The only way I could find the Beethoven link was to click the Sitemap 
 link on his home page.  There you can 
find a Beethoven link just beneath all of his Family page names and a 
reference to Authenticity.

However, although it may have once been a .pdf file, you will get a 
warning that /Beetho.pdf can no longer be found on the server.  Do not 
despair.  You can still download in .doc format.  Unfortunately, the 
.htm link doesn't work, either, only showing empty icons of what was 
once meant to be.

That's OK!  It's nice to have such a treasure available.  Having to 
struggle, a bit, to find it, will just make it seem more valuable.
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AW: [Hornlist] tips again

[Scott Bacon Dürkhorns]

Herr Pizka,

I tried to have a look at the Beethoven, but nothing would correctly upload.
Is all in order with the link?

Sincerely,

Scott H. Bacon
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von
Hans Pizka
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003 13:50
An: 'The Horn List'
Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] tips again

Hello Liz,

are you sure, you are asking about Beethoven Sonata op.17 ? There is no
chromatic scale as you described. And the highest note to play is the g2
(on top of the upper line of the staff - treble clef !).

Are you speaking "concert" or played on the horn or just notated
(written) ?

And, dear Liz, how come you will play first horn for Sorcerer & for the
Planets, if you have difficulties with a chromatic scale, which anyway
does not exist in this piece ?

If you describe a thing you are asking for help, you must describe it
exactly.

Ooops, yes, it is, as I assumed. You have difficulties ending the trill
together with the piano, right ? This is after the long chromatic run of
the piano from c in the left hand up to the trill, passing 6 groups of
1/16th sixtuplets.

Have a look in the piano score to find that the trill of the piano ends
with an "abschlag" ( two sixteenth or thirty seconds with the first note
just one step below the main trill note & the second little note the
same as the main trill note : sample: trill a - bnat. ending with g - a
 Before entering in the down beat g, perhaps. These "abschlag" notes are
usually written like grace notes but with out the strike-through.

How to meet there ? Well, the piano needs a bit more time for this very
rapid chromatic scale. So leave some more time for the pianist by
stretching the measure (it is at the end of the last movement), then
trill the next full measure, listening to the pianist very carefully &
exchanging a look each other to place the "abschlag notes" the same time
together, perhaps by attacking them separately.

Moral for you: if you ask somebody for help (and it is more pleasure to
offer help than to receive help), think twice before asking. Perhaps,
note down things before typing it in the mail. Ask exactly by pointing
to exact piece names, mouvements, measures. Express your question
clearly using our horn wise notation.

This will result in easier & faster response to your questions.

Good luck !

PS: You can find the first print of that Sonata on my Web Site - full
text. It is a PDF file of 2,3 MB, so it might take a while until you
will see the pictures.

www.pizka.de

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Elizabeth Kane
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:05 PM
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Subject: [Hornlist] tips

hi! im Liz
Im a high school freshman hornist, im not too bad or at least i dont
think i
am, but i'd like some tips on prepareing an audition pieceIm going
for
Northeast Districts in MA. as a freahman you can try out but you arnt
likely
to make it considering that its open to all of the rest of high school
age
studentsThe piece is Sonata in F major opus 17 by Beethoven, and, my

biggest difficulty, the chromatic scale goes from the c in the middle of
the
bass clef to the a above the treble clef.  any comments would be
welcome, im
also trying to learn some pieces for an orchestra that i play with such
as
the sorcerers apprentice, and the planets where i am first hornkinda
by
defaultthanx
-Liz

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