RE: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur groups

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Hello Wendell, Lawrence said it streight:

The conductor-pigs do better concerts than those who just
like to please the orchestra with their sweet talk.
Personally, I prefer the bad people in front, as they keep
all high alert  prepared, so to make best quality music.
Never had any problems with those, discussions when
necessary  when there was reason. These beasts understood
it, when they knew your potentials  when you offered them
high quality yourself. Thngs hey dont like: hiding behind
the music stand, mediocre players, not enough character to
bounce back to them. By the way, I also saw players crying
when being corrected by Karl Boehm (he just wanted the solo
flute play the Carmen solo another time  a bit filled with
more life after he had just played it twice !)

And this was not amateur but high grade professional level
..

Anyway, it seems nonsense to me, if a conductor of an
amateur orchestra (even he himself a nobody in the
business) starts yelling and bawling at his players or the
orchestra as a whole  It just demonstrates his impotence




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 I used to help out with a local amateur orchestra, the
conductor of 
 which was notorious - he used to yell and bawl at his
players and more 
 than once I saw  grown men and women crying behind their
stands.  The 
 concerts were  terrific!

 Eventually, the management took him to one side and told
him to mend 
 his ways and treat his players more gently.  He did and
everyone was 
 much  happier.
 The concerts sounded like any other amatuer orchestral
concert.

 Cheers,

 Lawrence
And your point is what?
Wendell Rider
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Re: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur groups

2006-10-10 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
 
In a message dated 10/10/2006 10:41:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
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And your  point is what?
Wendell Rider


My point is that in this particular case once the conductor was calmed down  
the performances suffered.  I've seen similar things happen with  sportsmen.
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence
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