Re: [Hornlist] Leaks and Low Range

2005-10-12 Thread Herbert Foster
I think Wendell would agree that the best thing is to see a good teacher. His
placement advice works for most, but not all players. For example, if you have
a very thin lower lip and short lower teeth, you'd wind up with the edge of the
mouthpiece at the upper edge of the lower teeth. And air leaks.

Herb Foster

--- Wendell Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 10, 2005, at 7:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  subject: [Hornlist] Leaks and Low Range
 
 
 
  Hi list,
 
  I was in a horn class this past Saturday and my  teacher's  
  substitute
  noticed that I had leaks in my embouchure. I always  thought  
  something was weird
  because every time I tried to play in the low range,  I would hear  
  a funny
  noise. I have been trying to develop my low range but I  know this  
  leak situation
  is a problem. I believe this is the reason why I  haven't really  
  obtained
  anything close to an average sound and air capacity to  control or  
  even play
  notes in this range. Because of these leaks I can't play  anything  
  below an F
  below middle C. What should I do to solve this problem?  Would more  
  air also help
  in the low range?
 
  Your Hornliness
  James
 
 Hey James,
 You have received some good advice so far about your problem but I  
 think the problem may be a bit deeper as you describe it. My concern  
 is that your embouchure may not be set up correctly to begin with.  
 Usually, if the embouchure setting is good, you will not encounter  
 leaks of the  magnitude you describe and you would be able to play  
 down lower than you say without much trouble. My first question would  
 always be, where are you setting your mouthpiece? Set the outside  
 edge of the mouthpiece just above the muscle line where your lip  
 meets the face. Do not go onto the facial skin below the lips with  
 your mouthpiece. Close your mouth to a normal position and let the  
 mouthpiece fall onto your lips without moving anything- especially,  
 do not open you mouth at all while you do this. Let the upper lip  
 just go into the mouthpiece as far as it will without moving it. This  
 is a good starting point. Make sure the lips are lined up by bringing  
 the jaw out a bit. Keep equal pressure on both lips against the teeth.
 Keeping the corners together is important and maintaining a flat chin  
 in the lower register is just as important as doing it up high. Its  
 just a matter of degree of tension. Think of having a rubber band  
 suspended between your thumb and another finger. You can strum the  
 rubber band and create different pitches by moving your fingers apart  
 but if you lose the tension, the rubber band will not vibrate and  
 will fall off your fingers. This is the same as your lips. Let your  
 upper lip relax much more than your lower lip as you go lower. Think  
 rounder as you go lower. Don't let your lower lip float away from  
 your teeth or roll it out. Moving the jaw down a bit as you go lower  
 is also good.
 As for the air, I would say that most of the people I have worked  
 with could use help with their breathing. Most people do not take in  
 enough air. In the lower register you have the need for a lot of air  
 flow without a lot of air pressure. This means that these low notes  
 will really suck the air right out of you. You need to learn to  
 supply the air without using more than you need to. Big breaths.
 I don't have the time or space to continue this now but feel free to  
 go to my website below and click on the link for my book. That will  
 take you to a page where you can look at samples from the book. Click  
 on the embouchure one and check it out. Feel free to download and  
 print any of the excerpts. Also feel free to contact me privately if  
 you like. If you could send me a close-up picture of you playing a  
 low note, or any other notes, it would be helpful.
 Sincerely,
 Wendell Rider
 For information about my book, Real World Horn Playing and the  
 summer seminar, go to my website: www.wendellworld.com
 
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Leaks and Low Range

2005-10-10 Thread Sonja Reynolds
Just make sure your corners (of your embouchure) seal against the rim of the
mouthpiece and voila!  No leaks!

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Hi list, 
 
I was in a horn class this past Saturday and my  teacher's substitute 
noticed that I had leaks in my embouchure. I always  thought something was
weird 
because every time I tried to play in the low range,  I would hear a funny 
noise. I have been trying to develop my low range but I  know this leak
situation 
is a problem. I believe this is the reason why I  haven't really obtained 
anything close to an average sound and air capacity to  control or even play

notes in this range. Because of these leaks I can't play  anything below an
F 
below middle C. What should I do to solve this problem?  Would more air also
help 
in the low range?
 
Your Hornliness
James

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