Hello Ken, I cannot other than to support your words
strongly. It is absurd very often, what
so-so-self-taught-technicians give as advice. And people
believe that.
But the worst are not these bad repairmen or good repairmen
like you, Ken. The worst are the instrument users, who do
not care for their instruments properly. They spit all
meal-left-overs into the horn lament about sluggish
valves. They do not like to spend 1.-$ more than the
cheapest offer, to buy valve oil (I used the cheapest
synthetic thin sewing machine or watchmaker oil from the gas
station ), but wonder about slow valves. So they put
their really fat oil on the inside nipples do not think,
that that excess oiling with the wrong oil will result in
resinous residue, blocking the valves in the worst case.
I wonder, if people oil their horns after carefully water
emptying it, before leaving it in the compartment for a few
days. And it can be very hot dry in your country, special
good to grow that kind of residue.
And then, they lament. If you point them on their abuse of
the horn, they will attack you. And they snake the horns
like crazy, polish them like crazy, instead keeping it
inside clean by occasionally rinsing it, or using a micro
fibre cloth to polish finger prints away after use. They
wonder about leaking valves lousy compression, but dont
care about moisture left in the horn, which buils up the
copper carbonate quickly, so to get a valve job done. The
valves get polished refitted, well, the technician uses
thicker oil to camouflage things, or he set the valve a bit
lower - but after few years it will not help anymore. The
same with the slides: they grease them every week but polish
- really, they polish - the old grease away. And after a
short time they will wonder why the slide gets lose.
Etc.etc.
If sillyness impertinence would be painful, a greater
fraction of mankind would cry cry cry There is
no medicine to cure that.
Some of the worst seem to be those who work in a clean
room all day out, but do not care when using their horn,
but open their mouth wide to produce common place after
common place, just to excuse their sloppiness.
My horns were used extensively. Extensively means
extensively. In my case over 8.000 performances in 40 years
just in Munich, other places not counted. I used : an Alex
103 NS for eight years, then sold; still in use in Austria,
compression like new, no patch; a Selmer for 4 years, still
have it (like unused), a Viennese Pumpenhorn for two years,
still like new, anothe special made Alex103, used for 4
years sold like new to Japan to a still happy user; a
Ganter double, used for thirteen years nearly every day
still used for some solo, valves like new; another
Pizka-Classic (same as Ganter) used from 1996 until now,
looks like new plays at 100%, never dented, never ever any
valve job done on any of my horns, just kept clean. That is
the secret !! Discipline, care for your horn like for your
mouth intimate parts of your body: KEEP CLEAN, but
moistured (whatever this means, sorry !) - no wrong
associations, please, remain serious.
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Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Advice for a Noisy H179
Valerie:
I can't stress enough how wrong your technician was who said
to not put oil in the slides! The oil inserted internally
isn't just done for lubrication's sake - it's also done to
coat the bore of the horn so that the moisture doesn't come
in contact with the brass. Also, remember that a large part
of valve wear is when the green gunk (Copper carbonate)
breaks off, and lodges in the valve casing - like sandpaper!
Oiling internally keeps this from happening. Also - use a
slide grease that DOES break down with valve oil. If your
valves are getting sluggish its probably for 2
reasons:
1. Over use of the bearing oil
2. Using a slide grease that isn't breaking down with the
oil.
Sincerely
Ken Pope
(currently cleaning another horn full of copper carbonate
from lack of internal oiling)
Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow
http://www.poperepair.com
US Dealer: Kuhn Horns Bonna Cases
Pope Instrument Repair
80 Wenham Street
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
617-522-0532
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