RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-12 Thread sheldon kirshner
And just what is that supposed to mean?

Shel

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"It goes on Judah, it goes on."
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-11 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
"It goes on Judah, it goes on."
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-11 Thread Bill Gross
More data, more data. . . 

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  I seriously doubt any of your posts have gone over anyone's head. From 
the part of your anatomy that apparently you use to collect your 
thoughts, I'm more concerned whether it ends up on the bottom of my 
shoe.


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 Hans

  Your English fails you. Sarcasm is also a mystery to you. Unless you 
were
 the
  person(s) who sent me the offending emails, then you have nothing to 
worry
 about.
  You have shown coolness under attack (either that or some of my posts 
go over
  your head), this is much more impressive than the people on here who 
said
 nothing but a few 4 letter words. Are these people really your friends?

  Oh and nice mention of the Saudi's. We kill them just like German's 
killed
 Poles back in the day huh?

 "Basta"

 are you sure about that?

 LT
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Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-11 Thread billbamberg


 I seriously doubt any of your posts have gone over anyone's head. From 
the part of your anatomy that apparently you use to collect your 
thoughts, I'm more concerned whether it ends up on the bottom of my 
shoe.



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Hans

 Your English fails you. Sarcasm is also a mystery to you. Unless you 
were

the
 person(s) who sent me the offending emails, then you have nothing to 
worry

about.
 You have shown coolness under attack (either that or some of my posts 
go over
 your head), this is much more impressive than the people on here who 
said

nothing but a few 4 letter words. Are these people really your friends?

 Oh and nice mention of the Saudi's. We kill them just like German's 
killed

Poles back in the day huh?

"Basta"

are you sure about that?

LT
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Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-10 Thread CORNO911

In a message dated 9/9/06 10:18:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> There is a saying we have here in the good old US of A...Don't dish it out 
> if
> you
> can't take it back! 
> 

We have another saying here in the good old US of A---one worth 
considering here during these particular exchanges---

"Sometimes it is better to   remain quiet and be thought of as a fool, than 
to speak up and remove all doubt".

Paul Navarro
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Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-10 Thread LTraxx
Hans

Your English fails you. Sarcasm is also a mystery to you.  Unless you were 
the 
person(s) who sent me the offending emails, then you have nothing to worry 
about.
You have shown coolness under attack (either that or some of my posts go over
your head), this is much more impressive than the people on here who said 
nothing but a few 4 letter words. Are these people really your friends?

Oh and nice mention of the Saudi's. We kill them just like German's killed
Poles back in the day huh?

"Basta"

are you sure about that?

LT
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RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-10 Thread Alon reuven

Hi all,
I personally think that we should get back to the old path :after all , It
is a horn list...
Regularly I tend to argue fiercely about political issues. Unlike Chinese
food or Japanese music , for some people , it is , literally , a matter of
life and death . But I really get the feeling sometimes , that I need a
refuge.  The list is a sacred domain in the sense that it is not and should
not be dedicated to anything else but the art of horn playing .
Alon Reuven ,
Israel
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RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-09 Thread hans
Hello LT, if you suggest between your lines, I might be
antisemitic, I tell you something very, very strongly now:

Nobody of us all has been asked if he or she would like be
born into this world, nobody. And nobody has ever had a
chance to chose his mother.

Conclusion: any, really any racism or race discrimination is
absurd & confirms just, how idiotic mankind can be. But one
has the right, everyone has the right, to chose his or her
friends. 

If one dislikes a certain politic of a certain group of
people, this has absolute nothing to do with racism, even
this is mixed up by small minded & short sighted politicians
& many other people.

Condemning but also understanding e.g. Israels policy is
possible. It has nothing to do with the fact, having many
Israelian or jewish friends. Even if you dont like Chinese
food e.g. you might have a lot of chinese friends. You dont
need to be in fond of Japanese music, to be a friend of
Japanese businessmen. Even you are an anti alcoholic &
Saudi, you can have arch conservative catholic bavarians as
friends. 

Basta !

Feeling an Ueber-Ego infront of another person, well, it
might have to do with the particular persons permanent or
hidden inferiority complex, perhaps. A psychiatrist might be
of good help then. But that is not my business.

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Who sent anti-semitic emails to you?

Shel

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I think Hans can take care of himself, he has proven that
many a times here. 
I don't think we need everyone here coming to his defense,
it only hurts his ego.

I also don't think we need the Anti-Jew emails that two
people have sent me. 
This only proves my point even more.

There is a saying we have here in the good old US of
A...Don't dish it out if you can't take it back!  I have
said before that Hans is a welcome addition here, but his
uberego gets in the way sometimes.

I often have to wonder why so many here actually have to
attest to Mr. 
Pizka's
qualities. If they were so apparent, he would need no
justification.

Thanks
LT
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RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-09 Thread sheldon kirshner
Who sent anti-semitic emails to you?

Shel

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I think Hans can take care of himself, he has proven that many a times
here. 
I don't think we need everyone here coming to his defense, it only hurts
his 
ego.

I also don't think we need the Anti-Jew emails that two people have sent
me. 
This only proves my point even more.

There is a saying we have here in the good old US of A...Don't dish it
out if 
you 
can't take it back!  I have said before that Hans is a welcome addition
here, 
but
his uberego gets in the way sometimes.

I often have to wonder why so many here actually have to attest to Mr. 
Pizka's
qualities. If they were so apparent, he would need no justification.

Thanks
LT
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Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-09 Thread LTraxx
I think Hans can take care of himself, he has proven that many a times here. 
I don't think we need everyone here coming to his defense, it only hurts his 
ego.

I also don't think we need the Anti-Jew emails that two people have sent me. 
This only proves my point even more.

There is a saying we have here in the good old US of A...Don't dish it out if 
you 
can't take it back!  I have said before that Hans is a welcome addition here, 
but
his uberego gets in the way sometimes.

I often have to wonder why so many here actually have to attest to Mr. 
Pizka's
qualities. If they were so apparent, he would need no justification.

Thanks
LT
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RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka

2006-09-09 Thread Bill Gross
Not unlike the aftershocks of an earthquake.  Just as you believe things are
about back to normal you feel one, but with time the aftershocks slowly
decay in intensity and you end up back at the steady state. 

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I would like to express my profound embarrassment for the vicious and 
totally unjustified personal attack on Hans by Mr. Traxx.  I can 
attest that Hans is a thoroughly decent man, dedicated to helping 
others, particularly other aspiring horn players.  I wish that he had 
been born in the U.S., rather than Austria, so that I could claim him 
as a fellow American.  In spirit I do claim him as such, and the 
human race is better off for his presence among us.

I apologize to Hans for this public rudeness.

James R. Price


>date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:35:38 EDT
>from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>subject: Re: [Hornlist] das rheingold
>Message: 5
>
>Gee Hans, you can't even take a complement without pulling the ubermench
>crap. History can't be changed. As much as you like to bash us across the
>ocean, you can't change the fact that Hitler led your country and he killed
>millions of
>innocent kids and that it wasn't until the US got involved, that the world
>was
>righted again!
>
>yeah yeah I know, you have played Zeigfried, and Gotterdamerscum and Die
>Walkurrreee a trillion times and you have never missed a note in your life
>and have
>never missed an H horn transposition, but can you give the rest of us
>amateurs
>a break? I know I should be paying you for all the wonderful info you
provide
>here, but when is enough enough?  You need to get over 1943 and 1944 and
1945
>and all the
>years after when your country was walking around with its tail between its
>legs.
>
>You have serious issues my friend. You are a fine horn player, as I have
>heard you live, but you need to down a chill pill every once in a 
>while. You can't
>live like
>this!
>
>Here are few key phrases to help you out:
>
>1) Why thank you, Im still learning too
>2) I have played the long call a few times, nothing big, but I like to
think
>I know a
> thing or two about it.
>3) If you would like, my website has all types of useful tidbits of info.
(or
>whatever
>word you all use for tidbits..perhaps uberbits??
>
>We like having you around Hans and I don't want to see you blow a vein
>attacking everyone who says hi. I thought your advise on the opening 
>of Rheingold to
>be
>right on...sorry if I didn't send you money for the right to quote you, but
I
>thought it was that important.
>
>I will have a check in the mail soon, Hans..is this the address??
>
>UberHans
>40 Brahms Ave North
>Bayerrudfunkswalkure, The Greatest Country on Earth
>
>Thanks
>LT


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